Refugees - the reason why I am worried (4)

Sep 16, 2015 5:41 PM CST Refugees - the reason why I am worried
Tinypaws
TinypawsTinypawsunknown, Longford Ireland16 Threads 1 Polls 339 Posts
Here we go, I know you all love my long posts and missed them *cough* but I decided to share something to explain why I am worried of more and more refugees being shipped about - and it has nothing to do with fear for 'our culture'...


22 years ago, I still lived in Germany back then, it was the 31st of December. There was a pub on the upper road, and opposite of the pub was a family house. Until that night I had not known who lived there.

My oldest was 5 at the time (thought he was 3, but the younger was 3 and in bed). I had promised him he could watch the fireworks, judging that by the pub the most would be launched, and so this is what I did: Carried him in my arms up to the road - totally unprepared for what we were to find.

The pub guests had emptied into the street, but instead of a jolly gathering, what we faced was a drunken crowd, out of control, throwing bottles at the house opposite, firing fireworks at the windows. There was chanting about how to slaughter the guys and how to'burn the wh*res alive'.
I looked up and saw the faces of children in one of the upstairs windows. To this day I pray they had not learned enough German to have understood...

No police car to be seen, and beside me there seemed no one else willing to rise in defence of the people in that house (not saying this as in 'I am so great' just stating a fact of that night).
From the shouting I had gathered they were refugees, later I found out from Lebanon. I was terrified, but I could only think of those children, and there was no telling what that crowd would do next, so I walked in front of them and told them how utterly ashamed they should be to treat others in such a way. It quietened them for a moment, but I knew it was not going to last, already there were hisses again, and so I straightened up, my son firmly pressed against me, and turned my back on them. I knew there was a risk they'd throw a bottle at my head, or maybe launch a firework, it was the most scary moment in all my life, but I walked over to the house and then to its side. 3 men were standing there, guarding the door, obviously hugely out numbered, they would not have stood a chance to protect themselves and the women and children, and I did not know how they would greet me with this extreme tension in the air, but I said to them that I was so very sorry, and that I wished to tell them not everyone was like that crowd.

They humbled me by taking my hand and then they took me inside, and the women came to hug me and kiss my little son, and I spent the next hour with them, while the chanting had started again, and we heard the bottles break against the walls and the fireworks. It was a small miracle that no window ended smashed, but eventually the shouting subsided - unbeknown to me at the time due to my back then partner, who had come to find me, but instead had found that crowd. He was tall and with great presence, and had himself begun to speak to the people, eventually gotten some on his side, who then in turn had begun to calm the others down. Without that, I do not know what would have happened (he told me later one had come back almost like from a trance, staring at him, then saying 'omg, what am I doing here, this isn't me at all')

That night taught me how quick things can turn bad. That crowd had been made up of decent people, friendly, but mixed with the alcohol and probably some among them who had started to heat things up, fears and misinformation had taken over, and those neighbours at that night lost what we call their humanity.

It did not happen again, at least not that I know during the time I lived there, and one of the sons of that family became a friend of my boys - he even came to spend Christmas with us, allowed by his Muslim parents, imagine.. and his eyes shone before the tree and there were presents for him too.. but if that crowd had lost it's last sanity that night, he may would have never come to experience happy moments again.
Sep 16, 2015 5:43 PM CST Refugees - the reason why I am worried
Tinypaws
TinypawsTinypawsunknown, Longford Ireland16 Threads 1 Polls 339 Posts
I am not against refugees, I am definitely not against Muslims, both cultures have much we can give each other, as well as that we have much to give each other as human beings, but - too many out there are not ready, it smolders under the surface, and God forbid it rises, and we now see Hungary closing its borders, and other nations are growing scared too.

This is why I want other solutions, for the safety of both sides, because I do believe we can overcome and will in time, the internet a wonderful gentle tool actually to bring us together, people finding common ground and realizing we are no different.. just that sudden influxes caused by crisis instead just rise fears and resentment.

These wars though keep happening, and our 'leaders' don't show any incentive to find different solutions, so we have to make the best of what we got. We have to help, and while we will get elements into our societies that are bad, most of these people are totally decent and do not deserve to be greeted with rejection. I saw their fear and pain that night, and their helplessness, and they had done nothing wrong but tried to find safety.

This world is full of cruel madness, but each and every one of us can do that little bit to stand against that, and everyone who carries empathy, surely will wish to do so, even if it does mean we have to take chances and battle our fear of the unknown. We have no choice if we wish to keep our humanity.
Sep 17, 2015 3:29 AM CST Refugees - the reason why I am worried
Tinypaws
TinypawsTinypawsunknown, Longford Ireland16 Threads 1 Polls 339 Posts
@ jt972

There will be nut cases among them, some of criminal nature, some of religious fanatic nature. This is not avoidable, but we have nut cases already in our societies, and most of them our 'own'. Anti social behaviour/criminal behaviour - we don't need refugees to have problems in society, and we deal with it and have done so through out human history.

It is a very small minority among those people who are problem cases, but in rejecting all of them, we are sowing hatred, and people who could have come to be our allies, also in regards to the nut cases among their societies, will become our enemies instead.

I see the pictures, and some say 'they don't look poor'.
True, they look just what we would look if our homes would be bombed to smithers. That could be us, had it been decided to target us, instead of creating these terrors over there. In jeans and clinging to a handy, only thing left of our lives. Scary stuffs...
Sep 17, 2015 4:59 AM CST Refugees - the reason why I am worried
Tinypaws
TinypawsTinypawsunknown, Longford Ireland16 Threads 1 Polls 339 Posts
Problem is, Stan, they are not 'haters', but simply scared. They are kept narrow-minded, cunningly manipulated against their humanity, and we need find understanding for their fears just the same, to solve these issues. I so hail your stance and can understand your emotions, but we need reach out to all involved, else we only end with divisions that will fuel fire further.

I am scared. I can understand their fears, some for a while have tried to make us suspicious of our own shadows, but I am fortunate to have had an upbringing as well as other influences, which enable me to fight those fears. It is these tools we need to hand to hand others as well, for aside from psychopaths, almost all of us carry good within, it just get buried and we get twisted out of shape by forces that don't want us to to nurture that good within us.
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