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Phoenix: If people really want to understand what the words "conspiracy theory" mean you can either watch the complete video (just over 1hr) or scroll to 3mins 7 seconds until 5mins 25 seconds........
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer
Eh, the twin towers collapsed due to a design fault, whereby the component parts of the construction were required to be lightweight to meet the design specifications.
The design spec did not allow for the incredible impact of a Boeing 747 crash into the towers, likewise there was no allowance for a blazing inferno reaching temperatures of over 1000C.
Anyone who has seen the effect burning hay has on the robust steel components of a farmyard barn, would understand how the initial impact of the planes, in combination with the high temperature of the blaze resulted in weakening the structure.
As the floors began to fall, a domino effect was put in motion, where the accumulated weight was too heavy for the lower floors to support.
Hence the towers collapsed.
No conspiracy, just an unaccounted for set of circumstances.
stanley8m: Eh, the twin towers collapsed due to a design fault, whereby the component parts of the construction were required to be lightweight to meet the design specifications.
The design spec did not allow for the incredible impact of a Boeing 747 crash into the towers, likewise there was no allowance for a blazing inferno reaching temperatures of over 1000C.
Anyone who has seen the effect burning hay has on the robust steel components of a farmyard barn, would understand how the initial impact of the planes, in combination with the high temperature of the blaze resulted in weakening the structure.
As the floors began to fall, a domino effect was put in motion, where the accumulated weight was too heavy for the lower floors to support.
Hence the towers collapsed.
No conspiracy, just an unaccounted for set of circumstances.
The design spec did not allow for the incredible impact of a Boeing 747 crash into the towers, likewise there was no allowance for a blazing inferno reaching temperatures of over 1000C.
Anyone who has seen the effect burning hay has on the robust steel components of a farmyard barn, would understand how the initial impact of the planes, in combination with the high temperature of the blaze resulted in weakening the structure.
As the floors began to fall, a domino effect was put in motion, where the accumulated weight was too heavy for the lower floors to support.
Hence the towers collapsed.
No conspiracy, just an unaccounted for set of circumstances.
You're wasting your time Stan. The dim among us will always believe in the 'spectacular' explanation rather than the scientific and technical and rational one.
They will never change because they will always find some other nutjob on the net who has some bizarre theory and they aren't bright enough to see through the lack of evidence in the theory. It's basically wishful thinking on their part, they trawl the net until they find what they are looking for.
stanley8m: Eh, the twin towers collapsed due to a design fault, whereby the component parts of the construction were required to be lightweight to meet the design specifications.
The design spec did not allow for the incredible impact of a Boeing 747 crash into the towers, likewise there was no allowance for a blazing inferno reaching temperatures of over 1000C.
Anyone who has seen the effect burning hay has on the robust steel components of a farmyard barn, would understand how the initial impact of the planes, in combination with the high temperature of the blaze resulted in weakening the structure.
As the floors began to fall, a domino effect was put in motion, where the accumulated weight was too heavy for the lower floors to support.
Hence the towers collapsed.
No conspiracy, just an unaccounted for set of circumstances.
The design spec did not allow for the incredible impact of a Boeing 747 crash into the towers, likewise there was no allowance for a blazing inferno reaching temperatures of over 1000C.
Anyone who has seen the effect burning hay has on the robust steel components of a farmyard barn, would understand how the initial impact of the planes, in combination with the high temperature of the blaze resulted in weakening the structure.
As the floors began to fall, a domino effect was put in motion, where the accumulated weight was too heavy for the lower floors to support.
Hence the towers collapsed.
No conspiracy, just an unaccounted for set of circumstances.
Brains...Explain why these buildings didn't collaspe...
Nearly 300 firefighters tackle blaze in 475ft high Chechnyan skyscraper
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If you want me to contiue with more factual examples I can...Or you can quit while you think you are a head...
The only buildings known to have collasped due to fires...being hit by planes or other are.. WTC 1 & 2 and WTC 7<--that wasn't hit at all. In fact Larry Sliverstein who "owned" the site is heard on news saying "pull it"...
snowlynx: You're wasting your time Stan. The dim among us will always believe in the 'spectacular' explanation rather than the scientific and technical and rational one.
They will never change because they will always find some other nutjob on the net who has some bizarre theory and they aren't bright enough to see through the lack of evidence in the theory. It's basically wishful thinking on their part, they trawl the net until they find what they are looking for.
They will never change because they will always find some other nutjob on the net who has some bizarre theory and they aren't bright enough to see through the lack of evidence in the theory. It's basically wishful thinking on their part, they trawl the net until they find what they are looking for.
Your opinion counts for diddly squat...and as I said yesterday..Stay away from my threads. You'll be banned ASAP.
snowlynx: You're wasting your time Stan. The dim among us will always believe in the 'spectacular' explanation rather than the scientific and technical and rational one.
They will never change because they will always find some other nutjob on the net who has some bizarre theory and they aren't bright enough to see through the lack of evidence in the theory. It's basically wishful thinking on their part, they trawl the net until they find what they are looking for.
They will never change because they will always find some other nutjob on the net who has some bizarre theory and they aren't bright enough to see through the lack of evidence in the theory. It's basically wishful thinking on their part, they trawl the net until they find what they are looking for.
I just found this evidence, so it must be true.
So Stan the NYFD are telling lies too...?
Stan explain the Pentagon job... my money is on a cruise missle bunker buster. It wasn't a jet plane...
Stan explain the Pentagon job... my money is on a cruise missle bunker buster. It wasn't a jet plane...
Phoenix: So Stan the NYFD are telling lies too...?Stan explain the Pentagon job... my money is on a cruise missle bunker buster. It wasn't a jet plane...
As I explained, the structural components of the Towers were not capable of withstanding the temperature of the blaze, and once the floors began to collapse the floors were unable to support the accumulated weight.
A plane crashed into the Pentagon, and wings are flimsy little things that shatter on impact.
I am not going to get into a sustained argument with you, all I will say is that the scientific explanation makes far more sense to me than your conspiracy theory.
stanley8m: As I explained, the structural components of the Towers were not capable of withstanding the temperature of the blaze, and once the floors began to collapse the floors were unable to support the accumulated weight.
MIT Engineer Disputes 911 Theory of the WTC Collapse-Part 1
stanley8m: A plane crashed into the Pentagon, and wings are flimsy little things that shatter on impact.
Is that really the best you can up with!!!! That is a "flimsy" arguement you have. Simply look at the size of the initial impack hole..photo's..Ask yourself why the FBI refuse to release 65 videos of the attack? Have a look at the lawn (untouched, no scorch marks......)
stanley8m: I am not going to get into a sustained argument with you, all I will say is that the scientific explanation makes far more sense to me than your conspiracy theory.
Bring on your "sci-fy" arguement.. I have nothing better to do today. As for David icke, he wasn't that far off the mark. Didn't he call Ted Heath a kiddy fiddler back in '97 and no one believed him...And today it's accepted as truth....
Phoenix: ins't****Listen to what David Icke say's....
First he was laughed at, then opposed ...today what he say's is accepted as self evident....
First he was laughed at, then opposed ...today what he say's is accepted as self evident....
I actually spent over ten minutes watching that video and in my opinion Terry Wogan is being very sympathetic and understanding of David Icke's delusional mental problems. As any normal person would behave with someone who is mentally afflicted.
stanley8m: I actually spent over ten minutes watching that video and in my opinion Terry Wogan is being very sympathetic and understanding of David Icke's delusional mental problems. As any normal person would behave with someone who is mentally afflicted.
Where is your proof that Icke has mental healt issues? You come of with statements and never have any fact to back up what you say. You expect people to believe you becaue.....?
Is Icke on record saying he had problems in trying to get his head around what he believes. Yes. Does that mean he has mental health issues.. Nope. Not by any stretch of anyones imagination.
You are exactly what Icke talk about when he refered to most in this world as "sheep following sheep"...
Were you selective in watching only the Icke video or did you take time to listen to NYFD transcripts of what they seen and heard on the morning of 9/11? What about what the heads at MIT said?
Did you understand what Sutherland said a little over 2 yrs ago to British Peers & lords?
"
The EU should "do its best to undermine" the "homogeneity" of its
member states, the UN's special representative for migration has said.
An ageing or declining native population in countries like Germany or
southern EU states was the "key argument and, I hesitate to the use
word because people have attacked it, for the development of
multicultural states", he added."....
If you pay attention to what he said then and read your thread about how great Germany is for helping refugees,it shows what you don't understand about how this rock we live on works...The whole lot is stage managed. The fact you and countless others either can't see it or figure it out for yourselves...Aint my problem. It's "your problem"...
Hmmm, are you really arguing that David Icke is a reliable source.
You are referring to the evolutionary reptilian traits that all mammals have. However, your reliable source David Icke proposed the idea of reptilians on Earth and he claims that shape-shifting reptilian aliens control Earth by taking on human form and gaining political power to manipulate our societies. Icke has claimed on multiple occasions that many of the world leaders are, or are possessed by, reptilians.
Look phoenix, I cannot take your argument seriously, so just leave it at that.
Look phoenix, I cannot take your argument seriously, so just leave it at that.
stanley8m: No, I am not answering your questions until you supply me with absolute proof that shape-shifting reptilian aliens control Earth by taking on human form and gaining political power to manipulate our societies, and that many of the world leaders are, or are possessed by, reptilians.
Translated into english means you can't answer the questions...Stop being a prat.
Phoenix: Translated into english means you can't answer the questions...Stop being a prat.
Look, if you want to believe that conspiracy theory nonsense you are more than welcome, but don't expect to have any hope of converting me to your cause. Oh and for the record I don't really believe your assertion that shape-shifting reptilian aliens control Earth by taking on human form and gaining political power to manipulate our societies, and that many of the world leaders are, or are possessed by, reptilian aliens.
stanley8m: Eh, the twin towers collapsed due to a design fault, whereby the component parts of the construction were required to be lightweight to meet the design specifications.
The design spec did not allow for the incredible impact of a Boeing 747 crash into the towers, likewise there was no allowance for a blazing inferno reaching temperatures of over 1000C.
Anyone who has seen the effect burning hay has on the robust steel components of a farmyard barn, would understand how the initial impact of the planes, in combination with the high temperature of the blaze resulted in weakening the structure.
As the floors began to fall, a domino effect was put in motion, where the accumulated weight was too heavy for the lower floors to support.
Hence the towers collapsed.
No conspiracy, just an unaccounted for set of circumstances.
The design spec did not allow for the incredible impact of a Boeing 747 crash into the towers, likewise there was no allowance for a blazing inferno reaching temperatures of over 1000C.
Anyone who has seen the effect burning hay has on the robust steel components of a farmyard barn, would understand how the initial impact of the planes, in combination with the high temperature of the blaze resulted in weakening the structure.
As the floors began to fall, a domino effect was put in motion, where the accumulated weight was too heavy for the lower floors to support.
Hence the towers collapsed.
No conspiracy, just an unaccounted for set of circumstances.
I wouldn't rule out sabotage of the twin towers
For a start the planes hit one side of the building
So surely the floors on the side that were hit should
Have collapsed unevenly therefore it should
Act like a tree having a wedge cut out of it, it
Falls to one side as the towers should have
People that think outside the box are often seen
As crazy, people that think outside the box make
The world tick, it's people that thought outside the
Box that created these buildings
I wouldn't put it past the Americans to sacrifice
A few of their own to cause outrage so people
Will be more supportive of their dirty wars.
Churchill did it in World War One, intelligence
Services warned him that the coast off cork
Was rife with German u boats and that there
Was a great chance the ship wouldn't make it
To it's destiny, he instructed that it should sail
Because there was Americans on board and
The outrage over the sinking would surely draw
The reluctant Americans into the war.
He had no problem sacrificing a few of his own to
Achieve his aims.
stanley8m: Phoenix, one of the fundamental principles of scientific research is to validate sources.
So the scientists at MIT? What about their scientific research?
What about the fact that everyone (including you) has part of their brain as "reptilian"..
What about the scientific research that Robin Cook read and seen (from people like the late David Kelly)..
Does that not count?
Give me links, videos and let me research your sources.. Back your claims up. I do.
Tinypaws: We could bring Galileo in, claiming the world was round at a time when that was simply not what you were meant to tell people...
We could....
Tinypaws: I am not sure about Icke as such though. Never read any of his books,
Take time to listen what he said 10, 15..20 years ago and then look at how things are unfolding. He wasn't far off the mark.
jt972: Acting the ostrich can be easier on the brain though...
It is hard to weed through all the different information, and reptile claims can come over as a bit 'outta there', although.. reality is a fickle thing, and scientists ARE considering the possibility of this reality for example being a computer simulation, as well as that Plato referred to the human mind being a prisoner in a cave with shadows on the walls dancing...
Wouldn't it be nice to be an ostrich! Looks a far easier life indeed
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If people really want to understand what the words "conspiracy theory" mean you can either watch the complete video (just over 1hr) or scroll to 3mins 7 seconds until 5mins 25 seconds........
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer