The Death Penalty (33)

I'm Socialistic and from a working class background, and such is common to working class people we support our poor.

I leave the telescopic philanthropy to the Marxist middle class, abstract perspectives of the poor are usually held by people that have never been so themselves.

Again misuse use of facts to make false comparisons..you should look a little deeper than wiki and try to provide some reason for your opinions and base them on some thinking.
Simply comparing costs to those ina country of a vastly different size and a measurably different economy does not create a reasoned argument. The cost of living in the US is very much less than here in the UK for a start.
I don't know how you manage to confuse property prices and mortgages rates, and who is supposed to 'design them to act as false securities in order to blah blah etc.'. You have no idea how much money my work has put into the UK economy and yet you choose to try and belittle it.
Do you shout at the TV by any chance

Adjusted for cost of living the UK cost per inmate should be around £20.000.

You obviously don't understand the collapse of the US housing market which lead to the credit crunch and began the great recession(decline). Apparently you view the world as mere events without consideration towards the raw material that makes events happen. A common way of thinking amongst the falling standards of education inherent to the modern day.

You say the economy is fine. I say it isn't. I say that an economy that consumes far more in value than it creates is crippled by debt. I say the economy is run on material resourcefulness, for you it is credentials that make the economy - a common divide between the practical & business people and academics.

I do know how much work goes in to the UK economy - a damn sight less than there used to, a damn sight less than the Chinese, or the Koreans. The UK economy works so hard and so well that almost every job that could be outsourced has been outsourced.

Alas, so painful to see the silliness and decadence before the fall... no, I will neither shout now, nor miss you when you are swept away.

Still trying to be insulting and still so wide of the facts. Mock academia all you might but I like many academics are commercially succesful and although retired from academia I still run a very successful and profitable business which employs 7 people.They all pay a heap of tax and so do I. Glad to hear you come from the honourable working class, so do I, pity you learned nothing from it. I feel sorry for you.

I've asked you valid questions you fail to answer.

I'm glad you run a business, I only hope it produces something resourceful and not trivial like many of our 'entrepreneurs' - property speculators and pet-grooming services are not valuable entrepreneurs.

What happened after Thatcher is that the creative side of the economy collapsed - jobs in production disappeared - from there we adopted a one-sided economy where most people work in consumption or services.

Like I've said already; a country can not just consume things without creating anything, this is what has caused the debt. House prices are inflated(bubble)so that people extract equity from their home and use it to spend. Joke universities are established offering mickey mouse degrees, kids then borrow to go and study these degrees, yes, this borrowed money boosts consumption and because these degrees don't result in a career then the money doesn't get re-paid(bubble).

This is just two amongst a number of ways we've helped the financial sector and its allied industries of consumption & service boom to create jobs. We have needed the debt to create these jobs because the real jobs are done in China.

Anybody bothered - and with an ounce of sense - can see how imbalanced our economy is. We need functional and structural changes to the economy - we need to make a lot more - we can not simply tax the rich to solve the problem, though I'm not against taxing them if the money taxed is spent wisely.

I don't believe you're working class(I don't actually believe you're an academic, neither), working class people say exactly what I'm saying in not so many words. They, being practical unlike the middle classes, have known for a long time that you can't have a country that makes nothing. They never bought into Thatcher/Reagan voodoo economics like the middle classes did and this recession proved them to be right.

Yes but you have to catch them before they do it.

The infamous FBI / CIA cracked how to spot a potential Bomber
and here is an info film -

all religion at one time or another killed people. its not the religion its the fanatics hiding behind a religion or even cs that cause the disturbances. But I would not hang them just put them to hard labour in prisons