was jesus a real person? (55)
conduit: I believe that all mankind killed him---not just the Jews or the Romans, but all of us, probably because we didn't really believe him or even understand him or even his teachings. In other words we failed.He surpassed time memorial.
Sorry folks, what the hell was I writing, must have been depre.......
I don't even believe in it----since I am an athiest.
Halv0: It really doesn't matter.... "JESUS" is the ancient Greek form of "JOSHUA". In ancient times the meaning was far more important than the name. The meaning of both of these names is "God who saves"... more or less in English.... Many might be surprised to find that there were quite a few "Jesus"'s walking around at the time of Christ.....
In the ancient Hebrew, they were so paranoid about saying the name of God that they wrote it without the hebraic equivalent of vowels. So it was written YHWH.....
In the ancient Hebrew, they were so paranoid about saying the name of God that they wrote it without the hebraic equivalent of vowels. So it was written YHWH.....
I think I mntioned it somewhere others were doing the same miracles as Jesus was !!
Just the Cult of Jesus took off
asha69: thank you micky bless you
God your even hoter in close up
mickyj63: God your even hoter in close up
hey micky, thanks again, why dont you join me on the island? the thread called what would you take.
meet us there tomorrow night. we had a party tonight on there with reggae band etc
asha69: hey micky, thanks again, why dont you join me on the island? the thread called what would you take.meet us there tomorrow night. we had a party tonight on there with reggae band etc
Party on a thread????And a reggae band??Someones telling porkies
mijas36: Party on a thread????And a reggae band??Someones telling porkies
well its good to dream
its just a way of escaping for a couple of hours, it is our fantasy island so we do what we like
curly28: Oh! yeah that too sorry ash that comfort emote is for me not you
theres plenty on the island curls
{well it is fantasy island}asha69: im not religious.
but i reckon he was a faith healer born way before his time, he healed someone, the crowd got excited and suddenly he was the messiah.brings to mind nostradamus. born way before his time too.
most of the people that have been exaulted in some form have been born before their time,
the bible has changed sooo many times over the centuries, like chinese whispers. JMOso where are the dinosaurs in the bible?
they were around long before jesus,
sorry but just not a believer.
Hi asha.....nice picsbut i reckon he was a faith healer born way before his time, he healed someone, the crowd got excited and suddenly he was the messiah.brings to mind nostradamus. born way before his time too.
most of the people that have been exaulted in some form have been born before their time,
the bible has changed sooo many times over the centuries, like chinese whispers. JMOso where are the dinosaurs in the bible?
they were around long before jesus,
sorry but just not a believer.
epirb: he solved all that out this way , by putting a road into Dannevirke which allowed the folks out here to keep their hands off their cousins, mostly anyway .
only one thought in mai mind when driving thru dannevirke.........dont stop here........hahahahaha
conduit: Everybody is right in their own beliefs. Each to their own---that's my motto.
mickyj63: Does beg the question is his name pronounced
"JESUS" English etc
or is it
"Hesus"Spanish
or is it
"Lesus" Latin
or is it
"Yeshua"Hebrew translates to Joshua or Josh
haha joshuas mai brothers name..........he wont like me calling him jesus"JESUS" English etc
or is it
"Hesus"Spanish
or is it
"Lesus" Latin
or is it
"Yeshua"Hebrew translates to Joshua or Josh
Obscuritan: Welcome to the forum, mate. How about you explain yourself a bit more clearly than you have. And also, cut the abusive language.
AgentAjax: I guess you’re not a believer then?
mickyj63: A very interesting question .
Like a few others above I would like to say Christianity has borrowed so much from other religions !!
One god come from zesus of greek mythology he was the GOD of Gods in greek mythology.
Garden of Eden was stolen from norse mythology .Except in norse mythology the end of the world was a garden with one man and one woman left!!
Was jesus real I really dont know .what Ive seen on doco's at the time of jesus performing his miracles others in the roman occuppied world were also doing the same things .In other words it was by chance that the Jesus religion took off and others failed!!
So christanity sprung from judaisim and then islam from both!!
Islam believes in Jesus Christ as the last prophet before Mohammad.
Christiany springs from judaisim but believes in hell and the jews dont oh thats right that bit comes from greek/roman mythology!!
Other things spring to mind Irish christianity was different they were brought into the fold some how by the Pope at some early stage !!
Priests used to be able to be married someone changed that as well!!
One of the apostles name escapes me could have been one of the thomases wandered through the desert and ended up in inda .He set up his own christain church .When the portugese arrived in india they were told they were catholic and brought into the fold !!
So was he real I have no idea .He does seem to have spawned a money earning industry !!
And no one knows this but I give a blessing to the godess of the lake and earth when i start fishing or catch my first fish !!! Doesnt hurt hey
Like a few others above I would like to say Christianity has borrowed so much from other religions !!
One god come from zesus of greek mythology he was the GOD of Gods in greek mythology.
Garden of Eden was stolen from norse mythology .Except in norse mythology the end of the world was a garden with one man and one woman left!!
Was jesus real I really dont know .what Ive seen on doco's at the time of jesus performing his miracles others in the roman occuppied world were also doing the same things .In other words it was by chance that the Jesus religion took off and others failed!!
So christanity sprung from judaisim and then islam from both!!
Islam believes in Jesus Christ as the last prophet before Mohammad.
Christiany springs from judaisim but believes in hell and the jews dont oh thats right that bit comes from greek/roman mythology!!
Other things spring to mind Irish christianity was different they were brought into the fold some how by the Pope at some early stage !!
Priests used to be able to be married someone changed that as well!!
One of the apostles name escapes me could have been one of the thomases wandered through the desert and ended up in inda .He set up his own christain church .When the portugese arrived in india they were told they were catholic and brought into the fold !!
So was he real I have no idea .He does seem to have spawned a money earning industry !!
And no one knows this but I give a blessing to the godess of the lake and earth when i start fishing or catch my first fish !!! Doesnt hurt hey
Micky, a bit disjointed here.
Mohammad recognised Jesus as a 'prophet' worth recognising as his teachings were not that much different to what Mohammad was preaching.
The Krishna belief recognises and documents Jesus as having studied Krishna beliefs in India.
The Romans never recorded his birth because of a prophesy that the Son of God would be born in Judea. An order came out that all males born around in Jeruselum at that time were to be slain. So no males were officially born. Something to with the 3 unWise Men showing up and said they looking for the Son of God. And Joseph and Mary did the bolt very quickly after the birth.
And his death would not have been recorded as they turned this over to the Jews because they didn't want to stir up any trouble against themselves but leave the blame to the Jews.
The Catholic Church had many opposing forces within it during the early centuries. Mainly the Fransiscans and the Augustines. And they managed to wipe out (literally) most of the opposition within the religion.
In Britain, Ireland was very hard to bring under their sway. St Patrick managed to adopt a lot of their pagan festivals to fit in with the Catholic Faith that occured around the same time of the year.
Scotland was very faithful to the Fransiscan doctrine until a Papal Bull made the Augustine way the 'True Way' for the Catholic Church. And it was not until the Pope issued an Excommunication Edict that the Scots considered changing. Resulted in the Protestant Church of Scotland (and Presbyterian) in the end.
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In the ancient Hebrew, they were so paranoid about saying the name of God that they wrote it without the hebraic equivalent of vowels. So it was written YHWH.....
Hebrew and Arabic written languages were very similar without the vowels in the written script. Which resulted in many mis-translations from Hebrew to Latin and then European languages (thanks to King Henery for starting this revolution). The "Modern Day Bible" is supossedly to be a tranlation of the original Hebrew text for the OT and early Latin NT text.
The most classic example is "witch." Never such a word existed until the Church invented it. Appears in the St James Version of the Bible.