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reolvine420taupo, Waikato New Zealand139 Threads 13 Polls 1,297 Postsreading the paper and 
john key says..........the govt doesnt care about kim dotcom and neither do most nzers politician trying to downplay something because it has been made to look like such a joke..........illegal spying, illegal search and seizure.......the govt must have cared about him when he bought his citizenship
john key says..........the govt doesnt care about kim dotcom and neither do most nzers politician trying to downplay something because it has been made to look like such a joke..........illegal spying, illegal search and seizure.......the govt must have cared about him when he bought his citizenship
any way if you think NZ isn't part of Australia, think again, in the first instance Helen Clark formally asked to join the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia.
The Australian Constitution gives as of right all Pacific nations including NZ a right to
6. The Commonwealth shall mean the Commonwealth of Australia as established under this Act.
“The States” shall mean such of the colonies of New South Wales, New Zealand, Queensland, Tasmania, Victoria, Western Australia, and South Australia, as for the time being are parts of the Commonwealth, and such colonies or territories as may be admitted into or established by the Commonwealth as States; and each of such parts of the Commonwealth shall be called “a State.”
“Original States’’ shall mean such States as are parts of the Commonwealth at its establishment.
Australia is already (passd by Rudd) picking up the Tab for all NZ Defence expenditure
If in doubt think carefully upon these words
More than 800 New Zealand police officers worked over the weekend as part of Operation Unite, an initiative targeting drink driving, underage drinking and alcohol-related violence in Australia and NZ.
The Australian Constitution gives as of right all Pacific nations including NZ a right to
6. The Commonwealth shall mean the Commonwealth of Australia as established under this Act.
“The States” shall mean such of the colonies of New South Wales, New Zealand, Queensland, Tasmania, Victoria, Western Australia, and South Australia, as for the time being are parts of the Commonwealth, and such colonies or territories as may be admitted into or established by the Commonwealth as States; and each of such parts of the Commonwealth shall be called “a State.”
“Original States’’ shall mean such States as are parts of the Commonwealth at its establishment.
Australia is already (passd by Rudd) picking up the Tab for all NZ Defence expenditure
If in doubt think carefully upon these words
More than 800 New Zealand police officers worked over the weekend as part of Operation Unite, an initiative targeting drink driving, underage drinking and alcohol-related violence in Australia and NZ.
robplum: any way if you think NZ isn't part of Australia, think again, in the first instance Helen Clark formally asked to join the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia.
The Australian Constitution gives as of right all Pacific nations including NZ a right to 6. The Commonwealth shall mean the Commonwealth of Australia as established under this Act.
“The States” shall mean such of the colonies of New South Wales, New Zealand, Queensland, Tasmania, Victoria, Western Australia, and South Australia, as for the time being are parts of the Commonwealth, and such colonies or territories as may be admitted into or established by the Commonwealth as States; and each of such parts of the Commonwealth shall be called “a State.”
“Original States’’ shall mean such States as are parts of the Commonwealth at its establishment.
Australia is already (passd by Rudd) picking up the Tab for all NZ Defence expenditure
If in doubt think carefully upon these words
More than 800 New Zealand police officers worked over the weekend as part of Operation Unite, an initiative targeting drink driving, underage drinking and alcohol-related violence in Australia and NZ.
The Australian Constitution gives as of right all Pacific nations including NZ a right to 6. The Commonwealth shall mean the Commonwealth of Australia as established under this Act.
“The States” shall mean such of the colonies of New South Wales, New Zealand, Queensland, Tasmania, Victoria, Western Australia, and South Australia, as for the time being are parts of the Commonwealth, and such colonies or territories as may be admitted into or established by the Commonwealth as States; and each of such parts of the Commonwealth shall be called “a State.”
“Original States’’ shall mean such States as are parts of the Commonwealth at its establishment.
Australia is already (passd by Rudd) picking up the Tab for all NZ Defence expenditure
If in doubt think carefully upon these words
More than 800 New Zealand police officers worked over the weekend as part of Operation Unite, an initiative targeting drink driving, underage drinking and alcohol-related violence in Australia and NZ.
The Consitution is very unclear and yet so clear.
My understanding was that the Referendum for the establishment of the C of A required the Colonies of Australasia to vote for Federalism. But it meant firstly a majority of votes from ALL eligible Australasian voters (including NZ), and a majority vote within each colony to be part of the C of A.
NZ didn't get a majority. And if they want to join us, we Aussies would have to have another referendum to see if we want NZ as well as them wanting to join.
And I think the NZ defense tab was only for some of the overseas support they provided in Iran, Iraq & Afghan territories.
Wash you need to go to the original Constitution Act
Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900
1900 c. 12 63_and_64_Vict
An Act to constitute the Commonwealth of Australia.
4.
Commencement of Act.
The Commonwealth shall be established, and the Constitution of the Commonwealth shall take effect, on and after the day so appointed. But the Parliaments of the several colonies may at any time after the passing of this Act make any such laws, to come into operation on the day so appointed, as they might have made if the Constitution had taken effect at the passing of this Act.
6.
Definitions.
“The Commonwealth” shall mean the Commonwealth of Australia as established under this Act.
“The States” shall mean such of the colonies of New South Wales, New Zealand, Queensland, Tasmania, Victoria, Western Australia, and South Australia, including the northern territory of South Australia, as for the time being are parts of the Commonwealth, and such colonies or territories as may be admitted into or established by the Commonwealth as States; and each of such parts of the Commonwealth shall be called “a State.”
“Original States” shall mean such States as are parts of the Commonwealth at its establishment.
Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900
1900 c. 12 63_and_64_Vict
An Act to constitute the Commonwealth of Australia.
4.
Commencement of Act.
The Commonwealth shall be established, and the Constitution of the Commonwealth shall take effect, on and after the day so appointed. But the Parliaments of the several colonies may at any time after the passing of this Act make any such laws, to come into operation on the day so appointed, as they might have made if the Constitution had taken effect at the passing of this Act.
6.
Definitions.
“The Commonwealth” shall mean the Commonwealth of Australia as established under this Act.
“The States” shall mean such of the colonies of New South Wales, New Zealand, Queensland, Tasmania, Victoria, Western Australia, and South Australia, including the northern territory of South Australia, as for the time being are parts of the Commonwealth, and such colonies or territories as may be admitted into or established by the Commonwealth as States; and each of such parts of the Commonwealth shall be called “a State.”
“Original States” shall mean such States as are parts of the Commonwealth at its establishment.
An Act to constitute the Commonwealth of Australia.
[9th July 1900]
Whereas the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania, humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God, have agreed to unite in one indisoluble Federal Commonwealth under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and under the Constitution hereby established:
And whereas it is expedient to provide for the admission into the Commonwealth of other Australasian Colonies and possessions of the Queen.
[9th July 1900]
Whereas the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania, humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God, have agreed to unite in one indisoluble Federal Commonwealth under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and under the Constitution hereby established:
And whereas it is expedient to provide for the admission into the Commonwealth of other Australasian Colonies and possessions of the Queen.
Check the following
Legislation.gov.uk
Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900
Legislation.gov.uk
Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900
robplum: An Act to constitute the Commonwealth of Australia.
[9th July 1900]
Whereas the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania, humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God, have agreed to unite in one indisoluble Federal Commonwealth under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and under the Constitution hereby established:
And whereas it is expedient to provide for the admission into the Commonwealth of other Australasian Colonies and possessions of the Queen.
[9th July 1900]
Whereas the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania, humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God, have agreed to unite in one indisoluble Federal Commonwealth under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and under the Constitution hereby established:
And whereas it is expedient to provide for the admission into the Commonwealth of other Australasian Colonies and possessions of the Queen.
Not sure how WA managed to get in but NZ wanted to go their own way. So 100+ years later, they want to say "We stuffed it, so you must take us in."
Bit like the Yanks screwing the Pommes after WWII and taking all their money "for the war effort" and now being so broke they want someone else to bail them out "because you should have not let us win the War of Independence."
Sorry, I work in an area where people have homes built in recognised swamp areas. Now the drought is over, they want the local councils to "stop the rains." People make their own choices.
About time people took some responsibilities for their own actions.
I was rein-rolled on the newly formed Itinerant Electors Roll, which Howard's government had created because i had formally censured the President of the Senate and formally wrote to the GG about. However Howard at the same time backed dated new legislation to 1984, blocking Kiwis from crossing the Tasman and enrolling to vote.
Which was something i later took up with Helen Clark
so really i am not impressed with your selfishness
Which was something i later took up with Helen Clark
so really i am not impressed with your selfishness
robplum: I was rein-rolled on the newly formed Itinerant Electors Roll, which Howard's government had created because i had formally censured the President of the Senate and formally wrote to the GG about. However Howard at the same time backed dated new legislation to 1984, blocking Kiwis from crossing the Tasman and enrolling to vote.
Which was something i later took up with Helen Clark
so really i am not impressed with your selfishness
Which was something i later took up with Helen Clark
so really i am not impressed with your selfishness
So if an Aussie wanted to got to NZ, they would not need a passport and a visa?
And should everyone who is residing here be able to vote for our Parliament?
How about we let 20 million Chinese come over here and vote for a totally Communist government and become part of China.
or 20 million Indonesians and we become a Muslim State of Indonesia?
Permananent Residents are allowed to be enrolled. Australians Citizens remain on the rolls. Non-citizens have to enroll for each election if they want to vote.
My first wife was foreign born but was on the Rolls from when she turned 18. She did not become an Aust Citizen until 1986/7 but did not have to re-enroll. Young friend born in UK but here since 6 turned 18 about 1984 enrolled and voted in the very next election. But the following election was not on the roll because she hadn't re-registered. Something to do with not being an Aust Citizen.
Sorry, Rob, I do understand you have a gripe with our Govt for your personal reasons. And you do seem to have bigger ones against the NZ Govt. You have travelled the world a lot more than most people and seen their great ways of life. But you choose Australia to live in.
Yeah few people used NZ as a way into Aust, however in past time pre-Regan (1984) deregulation scam, NZ had a very comprehensive free medical care program probably better than Australia has ever had, also very comprehensive country wide public transport and railway systems, all karput now
Progress is not always constructive progress
Progress is not always constructive progress
robplum: Yeah few people used NZ as a way into Aust, however in past time pre-Regan (1984) deregulation scam, NZ had a very comprehensive free medical care program probably better than Australia has ever had, also very comprehensive country wide public transport and railway systems, all karput now
Progress is not always constructive progress
Progress is not always constructive progress
I agree with that. My brother lived in NZ for a while during 1970 and loved it.
I did too because I had his Monaro to drive while he was gone.
Talk about a chick magnet. 
I was there in 1991 and saw a lot of the Mainland (South Island). Was astounded at the number of disused railway lines where tracks had been removed for fence posts, and NZ had no steel industry so needed to reuse what they had. Cousins was farming venison until the Iron Curtain came down and venison was cheaper from Communist Europe, meant than lamb was worth more in NZ.
Friend of the wife had the Sausage Shop (NO, Lookin, not the one liners here) in Dunedin who missed real Aussie sausages with meat in them and made her own. Until people taalked her into making decent ones for sale. And most profit for her was from venison because she could get it for half the price.
And Aust has so many disused lines as well where nothing remains but the soil heaped up and the old tunnels. All part of "progress."
wash2u: I agree with that. My brother lived in NZ for a while during 1970 and loved it.
I did too because I had his Monaro to drive while he was gone. Talk about a chick magnet.
I was there in 1991 and saw a lot of the Mainland (South Island). Was astounded at the number of disused railway lines where tracks had been removed for fence posts, and NZ had no steel industry so needed to reuse what they had. Cousins was farming venison until the Iron Curtain came down and venison was cheaper from Communist Europe, meant than lamb was worth more in NZ.
Friend of the wife had the Sausage Shop (NO, Lookin, not the one liners here) in Dunedin who missed real Aussie sausages with meat in them and made her own. Until people taalked her into making decent ones for sale. And most profit for her was from venison because she could get it for half the price.
And Aust has so many disused lines as well where nothing remains but the soil heaped up and the old tunnels. All part of "progress."
we did have a steel industry , and a bloody good plant , broken by the same type of scum now running the country .I did too because I had his Monaro to drive while he was gone. Talk about a chick magnet.
I was there in 1991 and saw a lot of the Mainland (South Island). Was astounded at the number of disused railway lines where tracks had been removed for fence posts, and NZ had no steel industry so needed to reuse what they had. Cousins was farming venison until the Iron Curtain came down and venison was cheaper from Communist Europe, meant than lamb was worth more in NZ.
Friend of the wife had the Sausage Shop (NO, Lookin, not the one liners here) in Dunedin who missed real Aussie sausages with meat in them and made her own. Until people taalked her into making decent ones for sale. And most profit for her was from venison because she could get it for half the price.
And Aust has so many disused lines as well where nothing remains but the soil heaped up and the old tunnels. All part of "progress."
Well its gone on over here to, Costello while proclaiming himself the best treasurer ever bathed in selling Australia's crown, besides that and mining the country rocked along on the dollars migration produced. Read yesterday since 1980's one third of Tasmania's farmers closed shop. The Dairy industry, Howard proposed he had water proofed it and most small dairies closed down right across the country, cause we all know the Murray stopped flowing and more farmers quit.
Hospitals, public transport, power right across the country utilities paid for by the people have been given away, in many areas completely wrecked...
Hospitals, public transport, power right across the country utilities paid for by the people have been given away, in many areas completely wrecked...
epirb: we did have a steel industry , and a bloody good plant , broken by the same type of scum now running the country .
Hi Epirb. And yes, I do agree that it is the Givt of the day that does lead us into easy tempatation.
In 1991 when I was there, I wanted to buy some gin for my mate. Apparently it was GST free and was cheaper than at the airport from the local. As gin was made locally. No imports taxes there.
GMH had a 'production plant' assembling Aussie imports. But GST meant that Japanese and other imports worked out much cheaper, just dumping them there to get rid of the 'competition.' Mate was driving a 1990 Bathurst-winning import which cost less than buying one in Aust.
But a bit of the world-wide Fabian Society (Keating was one of the 1,000 members) who wanted 'cost effective production' over what industries a country really need to be able to sustain themselves.
reolvine420: yea theres sumthing Fuc key going on
think it related to Key getting the Secret Service Org to clean there files of any trace that they had investigated Dotcom, including any trace records had been deleted. Winston and another member demanded a Point of Order but were forced to sit down by the speaker
thats what i took from what i watched on video
wash2u: The Consitution is very unclear and yet so clear.
My understanding was that the Referendum for the establishment of the C of A required the Colonies of Australasia to vote for Federalism. But it meant firstly a majority of votes from ALL eligible Australasian voters (including NZ), and a majority vote within each colony to be part of the C of A.
NZ didn't get a majority. And if they want to join us, we Aussies would have to have another referendum to see if we want NZ as well as them wanting to join.
And I think the NZ defense tab was only for some of the overseas support they provided in Iran, Iraq & Afghan territories.
so i am i an australian or a nzer? i was born in nz so as far as im concernered i am a nzer, surely the govt cant change that fact?or is that what they do?rewrite history?My understanding was that the Referendum for the establishment of the C of A required the Colonies of Australasia to vote for Federalism. But it meant firstly a majority of votes from ALL eligible Australasian voters (including NZ), and a majority vote within each colony to be part of the C of A.
NZ didn't get a majority. And if they want to join us, we Aussies would have to have another referendum to see if we want NZ as well as them wanting to join.
And I think the NZ defense tab was only for some of the overseas support they provided in Iran, Iraq & Afghan territories.
yeah your an aussie-der
course its what governments do hahaha
course its what governments do hahaha
robplum: yeah your an aussie-der
course its what governments do hahaha
course its what governments do hahaha
Were Australasians.
benidorm: Were Australasians.
Well put Benni.
We could also consider that we are part of the Pacific Rim and look at many different people who also make The Rim.
Dand darn it, one of these days I will remember have to post these links so you can go direct.
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