Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes (19)

May 15, 2013 2:35 AM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
Who has had a lasting effect on your life hmmm
May 15, 2013 4:36 AM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
LiLee
LiLeeLiLeeIpswich, Queensland Australia53 Threads 1,760 Posts
Same thing happened with my ex Serene. He didn't have much to do with them. His choice as I knew the boys wanted to know their dad and knew they would resent me later if I made it hard for him. Sad thing was he had other priorities.

Seems what goes around comes around and when he recently tried to make contact through a family member they weren't interested. Seems now they are adults they feel resentful that he never had time for them when they were young.

Perhaps that's part of why I have a lot of respect for my dad. He put up with all the angst with my mum cause his kids were important enough to him for him not to walk away from us.

I know it's very hard sometimes for dads to stay in touch with their kids especially if there is a lot of anger with the mum. But I would say to any guys who find themselves in this situation to keep fighting to see your kids. They will appreciate your efforts and they will know how important they are to you and you will maintain that relationship with them when they become adults. The stronger man doesn't give up and walk away. Your kids are worth it. !!!!
May 15, 2013 4:50 AM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
LiLee: I know it's very hard sometimes for dads to stay in touch with their kids especially if there is a lot of anger with the mum. But I would say to any guys who find themselves in this situation to keep fighting to see your kids. They will appreciate your efforts and they will know how important they are to you and you will maintain that relationship with them when they become adults. The stronger man doesn't give up and walk away. Your kids are worth it. !!!!



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I fail to understand how anyone can give up on their flesh and blood under any circumstances really.

And I certainly couldn't put myself in my childrens' place and understand how they must feel about that.

My daughter is now 37 and has a full life, she has a loving husband and a beautiful child, but who knows what impact this has had on her life blues

My son is now mature enough to have some compassion for his father, to think outside of the square so to speak .. I love him even more for that as his life hasn't panned out exactly as we all would have wanted for him.
May 15, 2013 5:01 AM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
PrOwLeR_
PrOwLeR_PrOwLeR_Mermaid BeacH, Queensland Australia98 Threads 1,290 Posts
Oh That should have went on serenes comment at the top of the thread ... doh
May 15, 2013 5:04 AM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
LiLee
LiLeeLiLeeIpswich, Queensland Australia53 Threads 1,760 Posts
What's that old saying 'what doesn't kill us makes us stronger'. Sounds like you have a son you can be very proud of.

My son's partner has recently become pregnant and it wasn't planned. She was scared to tell him as she thought he might be upset and leave. She told me how he was shocked that she would think that and how he would never leave his child or her as he knows the heartache he grew up with without a dad. Made me feel like crying crying

But he will make the best dad and I'm so proud of him for the man he has become despite the circumstances he grew up with.

Also I know many children grow up without a parent for many reasons, death or illness etc. I think the fact that a parent chooses to abandon their kids is something they will carry with them through life.
May 15, 2013 5:07 AM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
LiLee
LiLeeLiLeeIpswich, Queensland Australia53 Threads 1,760 Posts
PrOwLeR_: BaTMaN ... SpideRMaN ... and SupeRMaN ...Bit of a pattern there I am thinking ...... .........


Always Batman.........Never Robin. blues
May 15, 2013 5:08 AM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
LiLee: What's that old saying 'what doesn't kill us makes us stronger'. Sounds like you have a son you can be very proud of.

My son's partner has recently become pregnant and it wasn't planned. She was scared to tell him as she thought he might be upset and leave. She told me how he was shocked that she would think that and how he would never leave his child or her as he knows the heartache he grew up with without a dad. Made me feel like crying

But he will make the best dad and I'm so proud of him for the man he has become despite the circumstances he grew up with.

Also I know many children grow up without a parent for many reasons, death or illness etc. I think the fact that a parent chooses to abandon their kids is something they will carry with them through life.



Yes, my son said something to that effect which was when I saw things through new eyes.

He feels sorrow for his father and I think it takes a mature adult child to take on that perspective.
May 15, 2013 11:09 AM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
PrOwLeR_
PrOwLeR_PrOwLeR_Mermaid BeacH, Queensland Australia98 Threads 1,290 Posts
serene56: Who has had a lasting effect on your life



My ole man was a bully .... I think a lot of men were back then ...

I loathed his actions ... so I guess, in part, his bad behaviour shaped my good behaviour, so that created a lasting effect ... drinking


I went to a Christian Brothers College and their brutal way of educating by trying to instill the fear of Christ into us all, only resulted in my questioning the Religion they so badly wanted to force down my throat ..

So again, I guess their over the top actions left a lasting effect on me too ... cool


Just thinking on this subject it appears to me all my positives have come out of negative eXperiences ... Looking at it like this .. it all does not seem as pointless as I thought it was at the time ... confused


For all the beltings, punches in the head, the strappings that came my way as a kid ... it all only served to make me rebel against them, the system and their teachings .... In hindsight, I'd say it is a job well done ... laugh
May 15, 2013 12:36 PM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
serene56: Who has had a lasting effect on your life








since being on CS, you coz you make me laugh a lot rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing and that could'nt be a bad thing lips teddybear bouquet



Thanks dear easter bonnet laugh
May 15, 2013 3:49 PM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
reolvine420
reolvine420reolvine420taupo, Waikato New Zealand139 Threads 13 Polls 1,297 Posts
LiLee: Same thing happened with my ex Serene. He didn't have much to do with them. His choice as I knew the boys wanted to know their dad and knew they would resent me later if I made it hard for him. Sad thing was he had other priorities.

Seems what goes around comes around and when he recently tried to make contact through a family member they weren't interested. Seems now they are adults they feel resentful that he never had time for them when they were young.

Perhaps that's part of why I have a lot of respect for my dad. He put up with all the angst with my mum cause his kids were important enough to him for him not to walk away from us.

I know it's very hard sometimes for dads to stay in touch with their kids especially if there is a lot of anger with the mum. But I would say to any guys who find themselves in this situation to keep fighting to see your kids. They will appreciate your efforts and they will know how important they are to you and you will maintain that relationship with them when they become adults. The stronger man doesn't give up and walk away. Your kids are worth it. !!!!
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May 15, 2013 3:53 PM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
reolvine420
reolvine420reolvine420taupo, Waikato New Zealand139 Threads 13 Polls 1,297 Posts
Lookin4missright: since being on CS, you coz you make me laugh a lot and that could'nt be a bad thing
Thanks dear
........i second that............you pretty cool serenethumbs up
May 15, 2013 8:09 PM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
PrOwLeR_
PrOwLeR_PrOwLeR_Mermaid BeacH, Queensland Australia98 Threads 1,290 Posts
LiLee: Always Batman.........Never Robin.




Robin was a P ooF !! ...................... laugh ... I'll go now ... drinking
May 16, 2013 2:50 AM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
Lookin4missright: since being on CS, you coz you make me laugh a lot and that could'nt be a bad thing
Thanks dear




Ohhh! How lovely lookin, thank you grin hug
May 16, 2013 2:51 AM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
reolvine420: ........i second that............you pretty cool serene



Back at you reo, I always enjoy reading your posts grin


Thank you hug
May 16, 2013 2:56 AM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
PrOwLeR_: My ole man was a bully .... I think a lot of men were back then ...

I loathed his actions ... so I guess, in part, his bad behaviour shaped my good behaviour, so that created a lasting effect ... I went to a Christian Brothers College and their brutal way of educating by trying to instill the fear of Christ into us all, only resulted in my questioning the Religion they so badly wanted to force down my throat ..

So again, I guess their over the top actions left a lasting effect on me too ... Just thinking on this subject it appears to me all my positives have come out of negative eXperiences ... Looking at it like this .. it all does not seem as pointless as I thought it was at the time ... For all the beltings, punches in the head, the strappings that came my way as a kid ... it all only served to make me rebel against them, the system and their teachings .... In hindsight, I'd say it is a job well done ...



You could be right there P, seems you've managed to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear which isn't always the case when people have had a tough childhood sigh
May 16, 2013 1:48 PM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
reolvine420
reolvine420reolvine420taupo, Waikato New Zealand139 Threads 13 Polls 1,297 Posts
serene56: Back at you reo, I always enjoy reading your posts Thank you
..............thank u 2hug
May 17, 2013 3:07 AM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
serene56: Back at you reo, I always enjoy reading your posts Thank you






And you don't like my posts moping




tongue



cats meow nom nom blues
May 17, 2013 4:55 AM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
Lookin4missright: And you don't like my posts


nom nom



Aww, come 'ere petal comfort hug
May 17, 2013 5:07 AM CST Reasons, Seasons and Lifetimes
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
serene56: What an amazing lady!

It is great to be able to be proud of our parents, and in your case, I bet she's very proud of you snaggs - you're a warm and lovely lady and I'm sure, a brilliant Mum too


I am a bit proud of what my parents taught me. A lot of their generations' values have been questioned over the years. Okay, it worked for them mostly. Divorce was not a real option for many although my grandmother did walk away from an abusive 2nd marriage and had to work as a cleaner to bring up her children in the 40s.

But there are 3 sides to every story....her's, mine and the whole story. When I separated from my wife, I lived in a garage until the property settlment was done (shafted in my opinion but....).

My sister at the time was going through a very messy divorce and he was ripping her off big time (her opinion but close enough to the truth). She was in daily contact with my ex and my children. My dear darling sister would call me nearly every day to see how I was going and what were my plans for the future. From one of her work colleagues, I was informed that my dear darling ex-sister was passing on all of my thoughts.

A lot of stuff that has come out in later years is that I would not take my 16 & 15 yo children for weekends and that this showed that I did not really care for them. When you live in a garage with only enough room for 1 bed and a kitchenette, it is a bit hard to have them stay over for any period of time.

End result was that I did have very limited access to my children because the Family Court decided I had somewhere for me to live and as I didn't have suitable accommodation for my childrem, she got 80% of everything. And the CSA said that I should make sure I contributed 28% of my gross income (before Income Tax of 25%) to the "family home" to ensure they should live in "good comfort."

Yes, dear ladies, I do understand (most often do not accept) where the fathers are a bit peeved about some outcomes and become bitter.

She did end up with a home debt free and was earning more than me plus my CSA contributions. And still she complained about how hard life was for her.

Do you ever step back and think about the whole circumstances?
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