Foreign Takeovers and The Future (16)

May 28, 2014 4:26 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
robplum: I don't think golds preferred free energy program has got a buckles, try this:
Pacific Equity Partners (PEP) a Sydney-based private equity firm with many contracts linked to the Australian Government including Defence Force Barracks, brought Peters Ice Cream from Nestle in August 2012 for $269 million and today, sold Peters Ice Cream to UK’s R&R Ice Cream for the usual $454.37 million and never milk one single cow...


Murray-Goulburn, after missing out on Warnambul Cheese to OS company, tried for Peters.

I do think PEP picked the right time to dump Peters to an OS comany. While world-wide dairy sales have risen sharply over the last few years, all of a sudden there is a glut and prices are already falling. Maybe this is a "Kerry Packer Vision" where he sold Channel 9 to Alan Bond only to buy it back a couple of years later at a much reduced price.

But we still have Weiss and Bulla as Aussie owned.

I saw recently that Victoria produces 70% of Australia's dairy products with the big players being Murray-Goulburn & Parmalett (NZ). Although there is an Indian firm now operating out of Longwarry that is expanding rapidly.
May 28, 2014 4:39 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
Quite a few years ago while staying in Hervey Bay, shop keeper and i discussed use-by-day on the milk he was selling.
Figured out the milk was 22 days old before it reached his shop the milk had been shipped from Victoria...
That occurred not long after they deregulated the dairy industry, farmers lost all the money they had paid for quota license and most small family dairy farms closed down. In Queensland few farmers installed bottling plants and continued supply, but most the fresh milk came from victoria, then john howard put nail in small dairy farmers coffin by trying to water proof the dairy industry opening access to more water from the darling and murray rivers. Didn't occur to the dumb "Bars" might-en rain for years...
May 28, 2014 5:39 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
robplum: Quite a few years ago while staying in Hervey Bay, shop keeper and i discussed use-by-day on the milk he was selling.
Figured out the milk was 22 days old before it reached his shop the milk had been shipped from Victoria...
That occurred not long after they deregulated the dairy industry, farmers lost all the money they had paid for quota license and most small family dairy farms closed down. In Queensland few farmers installed bottling plants and continued supply, but most the fresh milk came from victoria, then john howard put nail in small dairy farmers coffin by trying to water proof the dairy industry opening access to more water from the darling and murray rivers. Didn't occur to the dumb "Bars" might-en rain for years...


NSW had very tight quota systems well into the 80s where Milk producers would supply XXX litres of milk at a set price of XX cents per litre. Dairy farmers, usually on a relatively small scale, recieved a livable income. A lot were over-producing and the NSW Milk Board would only offer x cents per litre for their excess.

Victoria (okay Murray-Goulburn Co-op) offered x +2 cents for that over-quota of milk. And then sold that milk back to NSW Coles & Woolworths much cheaper than the NSW Milk Board offered for the "locally produced" milk. Us poor shopkeepers were not in the loop and suffered a lot at that time. We had to buy from our local licensed supplier at the set Govt price. And our resale price was set by the Govt or we would lose our license to sell milk.

But a very big NO for it being Little Johnny who started the demise of the Aussie dairy farmer. It was a bit before that time in NSW when Nifty Nev recognised that the voters wanted the cheaper "imports" from Victoria (and other places) and took away the support to NSW dairy farmers.

Back in the late 70s when Hawke came to Govt, Capt Cook Cruises in Sydney Harbour were experiencing something like $6M profit each year that the banks decided that a $10M debt needed to be paid now. Sold to a Japanese company for $3M who arranged for the pre-booked tours to be paid directly to Japanese companies with the so-called Aussie company recording losses each year as they received little Aussie component....

It was also a State Labouring Govt that sold off many QLD Govt Assets after Jo Beholding-Petersonnys lost power.

I do not support any of Little Johnny's sales of Aussie industries, but he was not the first to do this.
May 28, 2014 5:47 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
oh i didn't say he was the first but his government tried to weather proof the dairy industry sighting shepperton, cobram and dubbo to be ear marked as areas to be given the nod

i had brown swiss cows in nsw, to milk them the state license at the time 1980's would cost 170,000, just for the license
May 29, 2014 3:58 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
wash2u: Murray-Goulburn, after missing out on Warnambul Cheese to OS company, tried for Peters.

I do think PEP picked the right time to dump Peters to an OS comany. While world-wide dairy sales have risen sharply over the last few years, all of a sudden there is a glut and prices are already falling. Maybe this is a "Kerry Packer Vision" where he sold Channel 9 to Alan Bond only to buy it back a couple of years later at a much reduced price.

But we still have Weiss and Bulla as Aussie owned.

I saw recently that Victoria produces 70% of Australia's dairy products with the big players being Murray-Goulburn & Parmalett (NZ). Although there is an Indian firm now operating out of Longwarry that is expanding rapidly.
Glut ? not sure that's correct . Our dairy industry is export orientated . Aus needs to leave it to their farmers to run their own industry . If they break to many farmers Aus will have to import fresh mild , China is already doing so , paying $20 NZ per litre .
May 29, 2014 4:04 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
yeah your kiwi's are riding high on the dairy industry milk powder pig
May 29, 2014 4:09 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
robplum: yeah your kiwi's are riding high on the dairy industry milk powder pig
NZ thanks the world for stuffing up their competitors .bowing bowing bowing
May 29, 2014 4:21 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
robplum: oh i didn't say he was the first but his government tried to weather proof the dairy industry sighting shepperton, cobram and dubbo to be ear marked as areas to be given the nod

i had brown swiss cows in nsw, to milk them the state license at the time 1980's would cost 170,000, just for the license




$170,000 ??????
May 29, 2014 4:55 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
its called grease lookin

they have since canned milk license system farmers lost what they had paid out
Jun 4, 2014 3:39 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
epirb: NZ thanks the world for stuffing up their competitors .


Fontera NZ is the largest dairy-product exporter in the world.

Just wish you would not keep exporting your people. I have enough competition trying to get the dole.frustrated
Jun 4, 2014 4:01 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
wash2u: Fontera NZ is the largest dairy-product exporter in the world.

Just wish you would not keep exporting your people. I have enough competition trying to get the dole.
NZ's not allowed AUS dole on account we opened the door to China . Back door migration was the catalyst , used to be real cushy for NZ's going on the dole in AUS and becoming full time surfers .
Jun 4, 2014 4:18 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
epirb: NZ's not allowed AUS dole on account we opened the door to China . Back door migration was the catalyst , used to be real cushy for NZ's going on the dole in AUS and becoming full time surfers .


Back in 1999, I had a Russian housekeeper. She and her daughter were not permitted to do an Antartic Expedition in a sailing boat because of her daughter's age. They (wife and daughter) made their way to Australia while waiting for the Russian expedition to "Conquer Antartica" and her husband to make contact here in Australia.

Long sorry short, it was a fair bit while. The Russian sailboat did make the adventure. The "crew" had also done a re-anactment of the Vikings doing the Baltic to the Black Sea in a Viking boat to prove some old myths about sea travel about the mighty Russ people and their travels over the decades.

A bit of time after she was dismissed from my employment, they were reunited with the husband. Because of her experience, she did obtain employment in NZ. Because her daughter was a Junior Chess Champion in NZ, they did recieve a lot of prefrentional treatment by both NZ & Au Govts.

No Epirb, it was not "opening the door to China" that made us close the door but more that you were passing everyone on to get our dole.
Jun 4, 2014 4:47 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
Goes to show half the NZ population buy lots of milk from corner stores (nz-speak Dairy's / au-speak Delis)
Jun 4, 2014 4:48 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
Goes to show that half the NZ population buy lots of milk from their corner store (nz-speak Dairy's / au-speak Delis)

The significance of dairy to the New Zealand economy


A speech delivered to DairyNZ in Hamilton
On 7 May 2014

At $15.5 billion, dairy exports make up almost a third of New Zealand’s annual merchandise exports.

China purchases a third of New Zealand’s dairy exports

New Zealand supplied over 70 percent of China’s dairy imports in 2013

Dairy farmer indebtedness
Dairy debt almost trebled over the past decade, and currently stands at $32 billion. It is concentrated among a small proportion of highly leveraged farms with around half of the dairy debt being held by only 10 percent of dairy farmers.



Jun 5, 2014 4:41 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
robplum: Goes to show that half the NZ population buy lots of milk from their corner store (nz-speak Dairy's / au-speak Delis)

The significance of dairy to the New Zealand economyA speech delivered to DairyNZ in Hamilton
On 7 May 2014

At $15.5 billion, dairy exports make up almost a third of New Zealand’s annual merchandise exports.

China purchases a third of New Zealand’s dairy exports

New Zealand supplied over 70 percent of China’s dairy imports in 2013

Dairy farmer indebtedness
Dairy debt almost trebled over the past decade, and currently stands at $32 billion. It is concentrated among a small proportion of highly leveraged farms with around half of the dairy debt being held by only 10 percent of dairy farmers.


Way back when before all these crisis' came along, my NZ family had a reasonable lifestyle. Down came the Berlin Wall and they lost their venisen market. Along came the EU and they lost their dairy market.

Along came Fonterra out of NZ. Buying up a lot of AU dairy production along the way. Heard the other day that the local (Au & NZ) dairy industry "needs to tighten the belt" on the world market.
Jun 5, 2014 4:48 AM CST Foreign Takeovers and The Future
i took from the reported i posted the CEO was suggesting 10% of NZ Dairy Farmers are about to get the heaveho
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