Any One Ever Wonder (38)

Oct 25, 2014 7:13 AM CST Any One Ever Wonder
PrOwLeR__
PrOwLeR__PrOwLeR__Mermaid Beach, Queensland Australia7 Threads 130 Posts
how the 12 apostles have names like Peter, Matthew, Luke, John and so on ... I read somewhere where someone questioned these names over in the middle east when Jesus supposedly walked the earth ...


Now if they were Mohammed, Abdul, Asif, Omar ... would they not be more names of men in this region back then ?? ............................. drinking
Oct 25, 2014 7:27 AM CST Any One Ever Wonder
justjim63
justjim63justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia14 Threads 2,592 Posts
PrOwLeR__: how the 12 apostles have names like Peter, Matthew, Luke, John and so on ... I read somewhere where someone questioned these names over in the middle east when Jesus supposedly walked the earth ...Now if they were Mohammed, Abdul, Asif, Omar ... would they not be more names of men in this region back then ?? .............................


Yep I agree... not too many Matthews Lukes and Johns about thumbs up
Oct 25, 2014 12:02 PM CST Any One Ever Wonder
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
PrOwLeR__: how the 12 apostles have names like Peter, Matthew, Luke, John and so on ... I read somewhere where someone questioned these names over in the middle east when Jesus supposedly walked the earth ...Now if they were Mohammed, Abdul, Asif, Omar ... would they not be more names of men in this region back then ?? .............................
they all changed their names.

Oct 25, 2014 6:44 PM CST Any One Ever Wonder
mickyj63
mickyj63mickyj63adelaide, South Australia Australia101 Threads 2,362 Posts
Arabs and Turks werent in the middle east at the time of christ
Egyptians were that back then and not Arabs !!
Think like the turks they were a wandering tribe further east
Oct 25, 2014 6:57 PM CST Any One Ever Wonder
PrOwLeR__
PrOwLeR__PrOwLeR__Mermaid Beach, Queensland Australia7 Threads 130 Posts




this could eXplain the names in the new testament ...


I LooK at books the bible and the coran and remember they were written by journalists of the day, and then I get to thinking why would they let the truth get in the way of a good story ??



and again I often wonder should these books be in the fiction or history section of the library ....


I remember reading somewhere sometime back that went if the three wise men were so wise, then how come they needed a star to guide them so they would not get lost ??


Some speculate that this star was indeed a transport ......


and Mickey, I thought they were all Jews, Israelites and Romans .... the story kind of unravels itself in place ..... peace
Oct 25, 2014 9:21 PM CST Any One Ever Wonder
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
PrOwLeR__: this could eXplain the names in the new testament ... I LooK at books the bible and the coran and remember they were written by journalists of the day, and then I get to thinking why would they let the truth get in the way of a good story ??
and again I often wonder should these books be in the fiction or history section of the library ....I remember reading somewhere sometime back that went if the three wise men were so wise, then how come they needed a star to guide them so they would not get lost ??Some speculate that this star was indeed a ......and Mickey, I thought they were all Jews, Israelites and Romans .... the story kind of unravels itself in place .....


Christianity was created by Luciferian order who believed man will become gods through their own intellectual innovation.

No there was no Jesus because there is no record outside of the bible any such person existed. None of the apostles met this Jesus, he came to them in a dream.laugh

Ok... in the OT the morning star was attributed to Satan. In the NT Jesus calls himself a morning star.laugh In the OT there is only one god. In the NT Jesus claims to be god and the son.laugh

Anyway without doubt all religions should be placed in the fiction section. rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 26, 2014 2:20 AM CST Any One Ever Wonder
mickyj63
mickyj63mickyj63adelaide, South Australia Australia101 Threads 2,362 Posts
PrOwLeR__: this could eXplain the names in the new testament ... I LooK at books the bible and the coran and remember they were written by journalists of the day, and then I get to thinking why would they let the truth get in the way of a good story ??
and again I often wonder should these books be in the fiction or history section of the library ....I remember reading somewhere sometime back that went if the three wise men were so wise, then how come they needed a star to guide them so they would not get lost ??Some speculate that this star was indeed a ......and Mickey, I thought they were all Jews, Israelites and Romans .... the story kind of unravels itself in place .....


thats it Prowler the Arabs all came with Mohammed

And dont forget my real name Michael means like unto god in Greek where it came from
And its an Archangel and a saint of soldiers
Oct 26, 2014 2:29 AM CST Any One Ever Wonder
Twodawgz
TwodawgzTwodawgzmelbourne, Victoria Australia4 Threads 4,009 Posts
Tool.....
Oct 26, 2014 2:30 AM CST Any One Ever Wonder
PrOwLeR__
PrOwLeR__PrOwLeR__Mermaid Beach, Queensland Australia7 Threads 130 Posts
mickyj63: thats it Prowler the Arabs all came with Mohammed

And dont forget my real name Michael means like unto god in Greek where it came from
And its an Archangel and a saint of soldiers







yeah well lets not forget 'Saint Patrick' mate ....... grin
Oct 26, 2014 4:17 AM CST Any One Ever Wonder
noeleena
noeleenanoeleenawaimate, Canterbury New Zealand2 Threads 251 Posts
Hi,

When the bible was translated it was to be put in to English and the names that were roman jew or greek were changed to english in the 1600 ad, for the english speaking people of the commonwealth under king James,

the other was for the roman church about the same time and both German and English translations were very close to each other when later looked at

Many of those names you speak of most in the new testament such as peter or james their real names were never writen so we do not know their names at all ,those people were in fact real people and had the Romans known their names they would have been killed by the sword,

The bible is not the only record of what took place in those times there are many other parchments dating around that time that will back up what took place , and for the record much of the bible can be dated and is writen in stone and on the stone pillers ,

if you read the bible as a record of what took place you will find over 21 groups of people were talked about, and those from Africa and surounding places,

Arabs oh yes theres a lot written about them look at the last letter in the bible in revilation you may be very surprised,

Oh...and by the way have any of you really read the bible till you have dont discount it till you have,

you wont facts about history then let the Egyption Empire surprise you , even the Roman Empire will tell you of things that have taken place, find out how many writers there were in the writing of those times of those letters in the bible they cant all be wrong ,

...noeleena...
Oct 26, 2014 4:33 AM CST Any One Ever Wonder
PrOwLeR__
PrOwLeR__PrOwLeR__Mermaid Beach, Queensland Australia7 Threads 130 Posts
noeleena: Hi,

When the bible was translated it was to be put in to English and the names that were roman jew or greek were changed to english in the 1600 ad, for the english speaking people of the commonwealth under king James,

the other was for the roman church about the same time and both German and English translations were very close to each other when later looked at

Many of those names you speak of most in the new testament such as peter or james their real names were never writen so we do not know their names at all ,those people were in fact real people and had the Romans known their names they would have been killed by the sword,

The bible is not the only record of what took place in those times there are many other parchments dating around that time that will back up what took place , and for the record much of the bible can be dated and is writen in stone and on the stone pillers ,

if you read the bible as a record of what took place you will find over 21 groups of people were talked about, and those from Africa and surounding places,

Arabs oh yes theres a lot written about them look at the last letter in the bible in revilation you may be very surprised,

Oh...and by the way have any of you really read the bible till you have dont discount it till you have,

you wont facts about history then let the Egyption Empire surprise you , even the Roman Empire will tell you of things that have taken place, find out how many writers there were in the writing of those times of those letters in the bible they cant all be wrong ,
...noeleena...





Jouno's today use sensationalism to flog their story and this can be read or watched in many papers or other forms of media .. so why not then ?? ...


Only a fool believes everything they are told ....


I had the bible rammed down my throat every day at school from the age of four to fifteen ... I was taught to fear questioning anything it said and was punished if I did question ...


just like on the internet, just because someone wrote it, this does not mean its the truth .... or at times anywhere near it ... drinking


The upside is if there is No God then there is no heaven, therefore there is no devil and no hell .... and this has to be a good thing ... don't you think ..... cool
Oct 26, 2014 7:05 AM CST Any One Ever Wonder
PrOwLeR__: Jouno's today use sensationalism to flog their story and this can be read or watched in many papers or other forms of media .. so why not then ?? ...Only a fool believes everything they are told ....I had the bible rammed down my throat every day at school from the age of four to fifteen ... I was taught to fear questioning anything it said and was punished if I did question ...just like on the internet, just because someone wrote it, this does not mean its the truth .... or at times anywhere near it ... The upside is if there is No God then there is no heaven, therefore there is no devil and no hell .... and this has to be a good thing ... don't you think .....


Funny...you only selected a part of what Noleena wrote......""you wont facts about history then let the Egyption Empire surprise you , even the Roman Empire will tell you of things that have taken place, find out how many writers there were in the writing of those times of those letters in the bible they cant all be wrong ,""

Read about what the Roman Empire has written as well as the Egyptians. There most certainly is historical fact about Jesus......and Jesus did say to study to show yourselves approved. But. It once did Jesus say study the bible only....nor did Jesus say study religion.

If you hate it so much......then why ask questions about it. If you truly believe it's all wrong wouldn't you think,it's best to never speak about it? And to be honest.....to speak about something with lack of knowledge from all sides isn't any good either! Or ignoring new historical information.

Mankind walls around believing what they are told to believe...especially when they don't get their way....and they fall for it hook lone and sinker. And when we all aren't thing to find the truth together...or when someone who wants to go lalala because they didn't get their way so they go about saying....well...because I didn't get my way, I was abused, neglected....whinge whinge whinge...sniffle sniffle....it is now time to ignore truth and start our own religion due to the hardness of our hearts.

Truth sets us free....but only if we want to learn truth putting our feelings and emotions aside...
Oct 26, 2014 7:13 AM CST Any One Ever Wonder
PrOwLeR__
PrOwLeR__PrOwLeR__Mermaid Beach, Queensland Australia7 Threads 130 Posts
Theresa4tgl: Funny...you only selected a part of what Noleena wrote......""you wont facts about history then let the Egyption Empire surprise you , even the Roman Empire will tell you of things that have taken place, find out how many writers there were in the writing of those times of those letters in the bible they cant all be wrong ,""

Read about what the Roman Empire has written as well as the Egyptians. There most certainly is historical fact about Jesus......and Jesus did say to study to show yourselves approved. But. It once did Jesus say study the bible only....nor did Jesus say study religion.

If you hate it so much......then why ask questions about it. If you truly believe it's all wrong wouldn't you think,it's best to never speak about it? And to be honest.....to speak about something with lack of knowledge from all sides isn't any good either! Or ignoring new historical information.

Mankind walls around believing what they are told to believe...especially when they don't get their way....and they fall for it hook lone and sinker. And when we all aren't thing to find the truth together...or when someone who wants to go lalala because they didn't get their way so they go about saying....well...because I didn't get my way, I was abused, neglected....whinge whinge whinge...sniffle sniffle....it is now time to ignore truth and start our own religion due to the hardness of our hearts.

Truth sets us free....but only if we want to learn truth putting our feelings and emotions aside...




The truth does not always set us free ... many a man or woman have been sent to jail because of the truth ........................... laugh
Oct 26, 2014 9:39 AM CST Any One Ever Wonder
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
PrOwLeR__: The truth does not always set us free ... many a man or woman have been sent to jail because of the truth ...........................

Neither truth nor a lie is an honourable act if you stand to became a beneficiary from either.
Oct 26, 2014 4:51 PM CST Any One Ever Wonder
PrOwLeR__
PrOwLeR__PrOwLeR__Mermaid Beach, Queensland Australia7 Threads 130 Posts
AgentAjax: Neither truth nor a lie is an honourable act if you stand to became a beneficiary from either.







I have always preferred to live my life alone in truth ...... versus living with another in a lie ........


and personally I'd prefer to benefit from the truth over being convicted by it ......................................... laugh



now is it to early for a drink .................... drinking
Oct 28, 2014 2:08 AM CST Any One Ever Wonder
PrOwLeR__: how the 12 apostles have names like Peter, Matthew, Luke, John and so on ... I read somewhere where someone questioned these names over in the middle east when Jesus supposedly walked the earth ...Now if they were Mohammed, Abdul, Asif, Omar ... would they not be more names of men in this region back then ?? .............................



Well no actually conversing


However I am wondering why I feel the need to genuflect before posting on here lately angel
Oct 28, 2014 2:14 AM CST Any One Ever Wonder
justjim63
justjim63justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia14 Threads 2,592 Posts
serene56: Well no actually However I am wondering why I feel the need to genuflect before posting on here lately


Holy crap Serene if your intention was to get us to take a gander at your profile with the new pic it sure did the trick for me!laugh thumbs up wave
Oct 28, 2014 2:17 AM CST Any One Ever Wonder
justjim63: Holy crap Serene if your intention was to get us to take a gander at your profile with the new pic it sure did the trick for me!



Just bein playful Jim wink laugh


Forums have taken a nosedive eh conversing
Oct 28, 2014 2:19 AM CST Any One Ever Wonder
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
Theresa4tgl: weeeelll! It's kind of hard to do that while your hanging out here that's for sure! Times a waisting dude! Hanging out never gets ya whatcha want! Your passing up opportunities...

I bet they're right there in your own town.....and your not taking advantage of what's in the palm of your hand....

Pops! Did I just say that!...



Well hurry up and move to tassie professor it's not far from me hug



Pops! rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 28, 2014 2:20 AM CST Any One Ever Wonder
justjim63
justjim63justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia14 Threads 2,592 Posts
serene56: Just bein playful Jim Forums have taken a nosedive eh


Nahh it's all good just getting my weekly delivery of hate mail.grin Seems I manage to offend all and sundry at times, and yet I'm not really that offensive, at least I don't think I am.confused
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