If you fell in love with someone from another country? (41)

Sep 10, 2009 10:33 AM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
rossidanny
rossidannyrossidannyWinsford, Cheshire, England UK19 Threads 90 Posts
If you fell in love with someone from another country and spoke a different language to you, do you think it should be your duty to learn her or his language even if they speak your language?
Sep 10, 2009 11:37 AM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
No, there is no duty to do so, nor is there an obligation.

Usually one knows a bit more of the other's language and that tends to be the person to do the learning. It would make sense to learn the language of the country that you'll be living in though.
Sep 10, 2009 11:51 AM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
WhovianGeneva
WhovianGenevaWhovianGenevaGeneva, Switzerland28 Threads 1 Polls 466 Posts
There no duty at all but pleasure.

well, from my own experience...



I started to learn english afresh 2 years ago (do it on my own) cause I love that language and wanted to find a british girlfriend.

I've met and fell in love of a Cypriot girl, here in Geneva. She doesn't speak French but has started to learn it (that's how I've met her : to help her and she would have helped me with my English)

Now that story didn't work. We are only friend.

If the story would have worked, I would have learn Greek, just to be able to speak with her family and with her too and understand her country and all the stuff that go with that.

I still have stuff on my Pc to learn Greek...
Sep 10, 2009 1:00 PM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
rossidanny
rossidannyrossidannyWinsford, Cheshire, England UK19 Threads 90 Posts
And what happens if they have children, when they grow up which language will they be tought. the mother or father, or maybe both??
Sep 10, 2009 1:03 PM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
roselyn123
roselyn123roselyn123oslo, Oslo Norway1 Posts
rossidanny: And what happens if they have children, when they grow up which language will they be tought. the mother or father, or maybe both??


It depends on where they live
Sep 10, 2009 1:05 PM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
saseez
saseezsaseezlakes entrance, Victoria Australia1,590 Posts
well you should want to learn their language yu love um after all.... at least some words yeah would be nice wine
Sep 10, 2009 1:10 PM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
rossidanny: And what happens if they have children, when they grow up which language will they be tought. the mother or father, or maybe both??
From what I have witnessed I do believe most kids learn whatever languages their parents speak.
Most small kids in my part of Switzerland speak a minimum of 4 languages - if one of their parents is non-Swiss.
Sep 10, 2009 1:10 PM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
saseez: well you should want to learn their language yu love um after all.... at least some words yeah would be nice
thumbs up
Sep 10, 2009 2:05 PM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
smoky: From what I have witnessed I do believe most kids learn whatever languages their parents speak.
Most small kids in my part of Switzerland speak a minimum of 4 languages - if one of their parents is non-Swiss.
Some of those Kids are absolutely amazing.head banger
Sep 10, 2009 2:33 PM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
rossidanny: And what happens if they have children, when they grow up which language will they be tought. the mother or father, or maybe both??


I was in a situation like that. The way it works is that you choose one language per reference person. It's very difficult though if one parent speaks x, and the other kids speak x and the other parent is the only one who speaks y. The kid ultimately tends to be better at x.

If both parents only speak x and you live in y, then it's a toss. Some kids do well speaking y because of their friends and school, others don't.
Sep 10, 2009 2:41 PM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
Lillym
LillymLillymSliema, Majjistral Malta33 Threads 3,391 Posts
rossidanny: If you fell in love with someone from another country and spoke a different language to you, do you think it should be your duty to learn her or his language even if they speak your language?


Not a duty ... but it would be nice to know what the heck he is talking about..laugh
Sep 10, 2009 4:32 PM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
rossidanny
rossidannyrossidannyWinsford, Cheshire, England UK19 Threads 90 Posts
What about when you meet the parents of the person?

In most of eastern europe I have noticed that the older the people are the less english they speak, as the older generation were all tought russian in school but that was changed and now the younger generation are taught to speak English

For example I am English guy and had a girlfriend 2years ago who was from Poland, I went to Poland with her to meet her parents, but I could not speak polish, and i felt like a complete idiot stood there while they were speaking with each other wondering what they were saying, although my girlfriend translated everything i say and they said, but i really felt like the odd one out...
Sep 10, 2009 4:43 PM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
heidi2765
heidi2765heidi2765GLASGOW, Central, Scotland UK5 Threads 737 Posts
rossidanny: And what happens if they have children, when they grow up which language will they be tought. the mother or father, or maybe both??



My son speaks his father's mother tongue, mine and English.....phew was hard work because his dad died when he was 4, but we got there!professor
Sep 11, 2009 2:08 AM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
Tulefel
TulefelTulefelGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden24 Threads 1 Polls 2,848 Posts
I’ve noticed a tendency that Brits, and in less extension Americans, expect everybody to speak English, while not that many of them, at least the people I’ve met, are in hurry to learn some other language. You take it as a “duty”. Of course, it’s not a duty – you don’t have to learn her language if you don’t want to. Be prepared though that you will be dependent on other people’s good will when you want to communicate with them, and when there’s none you will be isolated. And she won’t be always there to translate for you.

As to children... it’s not unusual that children become bi- and trilingual almost at once, they are cleverer than adults.

grin
Sep 11, 2009 2:18 AM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
RobertC2
RobertC2RobertC2Xaghra, Gozo, Gozo Malta91 Threads 8 Polls 8,344 Posts
rossidanny: If you fell in love with someone from another country and spoke a different language to you, do you think it should be your duty to learn her or his language even if they speak your language?


No.

I'm British.

I refuse to speak in foreign tongues! tongue

Actually, I love languages - and do my best to communicate with words and wild gestures and subtle body language and kissing and hugging and caressing and good stuff like that.

Put it this way............. if you are really concentrated on kissing (and being kissed by) a beautiful warm wonderful woman is there any real need to talk? dunno
Sep 11, 2009 2:19 AM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
RobertC2
RobertC2RobertC2Xaghra, Gozo, Gozo Malta91 Threads 8 Polls 8,344 Posts
Tulefel: I’ve noticed a tendency that Brits, and in less extension Americans, expect everybody to speak English, while not that many of them, at least the people I’ve met, are in hurry to learn some other language. You take it as a “duty”. Of course, it’s not a duty – you don’t have to learn her language if you don’t want to. Be prepared though that you will be dependent on other people’s good will when you want to communicate with them, and when there’s none you will be isolated. And she won’t be always there to translate for you.

As to children... it’s not unusual that children become bi- and trilingual almost at once, they are cleverer than adults.


Right on.......all my brother's surviving kids are at least tri-lingual! thumbs up
Sep 11, 2009 2:25 AM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
Tulefel: I’ve noticed a tendency that Brits, and in less extension Americans, expect everybody to speak English, while not that many of them, at least the people I’ve met, are in hurry to learn some other language. You take it as a “duty”. Of course, it’s not a duty – you don’t have to learn her language if you don’t want to. Be prepared though that you will be dependent on other people’s good will when you want to communicate with them, and when there’s none you will be isolated. And she won’t be always there to translate for you.

As to children... it’s not unusual that children become bi- and trilingual almost at once, they are cleverer than adults.


Now then, do you think that we Brits conquered half the world and popped our flags onto other people's beaches to create an empire on which the sun never set, for No Reason? We have earned the right to be ignorant and not to learn about other people's languages and cultures!

Worse than that, when we arrive in these strange and exotic places, there's not a steak and kidney pie or a Yorkshire pudding to be seen. You really are a most ungrateful lot!laugh
Sep 11, 2009 2:33 AM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
Tulefel
TulefelTulefelGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden24 Threads 1 Polls 2,848 Posts
Godsgift: Now then, do you think that we Brits conquered half the world and popped our flags onto other people's beaches to create an empire on which the sun never set, for No Reason? We have earned the right to be ignorant and not to learn about other people's languages and cultures!

Worse than that, when we arrive in these strange and exotic places, there's not a steak and kidney pie or a Yorkshire pudding to be seen. You really are a most ungrateful lot!


I don’t know what kidney pie or a Yorkshire pudding is, but it’s sounds as “appetizing” as Robert’s roasted grasshoppers

tongue
Sep 11, 2009 2:39 AM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
Tulefel: I don’t know what kidney pie or a Yorkshire pudding is, but it’s sounds as “appetizing” as Robert’s roasted grasshoppers


Just be grateful I'm not looking for black pudding or haggis!laugh
Sep 11, 2009 3:00 AM CST If you fell in love with someone from another country?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Tulefel: I don’t know what kidney pie or a Yorkshire pudding is, but it’s sounds as “appetizing” as Robert’s roasted grasshoppers


Steak and Kidney pie is when you cut off a piece of the bum meat of an animal, and cook it together with the animals kidneys, and lots of onions, then put it all in a pastry shell and bake it - and then eat it.....

Yorkshire pudding is a dough that lies in a pan under a roasting piece of meat and the fat falls on it and it bakes......... But .... no-one can make it properly except the mother of the person who is eating it....grin
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