The EU is coming to get YOU! (95)

Nov 22, 2010 2:37 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
This last Saturday, I went, as usual, to my usual tobacco shop to load up with my cheap loose tobacco.

All the tobacco goods were draped with white sheets. All the cigarette packets had white labels stating just "Zigaretten". NO brand names visible.

I asked the owner guy "Why?"

He began to talk ......"This is what the EU is wanting ...... NO cigarette brand names ... ONLY TWO types of tobacco available .. Grey or Black".......

"NEXT will come alcohol ... Wines ......and Beers ........!

"Total control of the population!"

"Next will be the Churches ... Only ONE Church!"

"Will we be having Gumboots marching the pavements to control WHAT we have in our shops...? ...... Shoving old ladies and children into the gutters....?

THIS is a person who is trying to make people aware of what the EU is attempting to do the the average citizen!

Is THIS the "Beginning of the End"?
Nov 22, 2010 2:41 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
I read something about that a few weeks ago. How does it work exactly? Can people still buy the brand they want? dunno
Nov 22, 2010 2:48 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Ja, my son came home today and said he had seen it mentioned in the papers today ........

Never mind the millions die-ing from Cancers .... and TB ......and languishing from Muscular Dystrophy, and MS.....and suffering from criminality ......

TOBACCO is to be controlled!

Here in Switzerland ..... most of the restaurants have gone out of business from being banned from hosting smokers ... smokers stand out in the minus degrees to puff ..... while restaurants stand empty .....

Next ..... will be your favourite choice of wine ... or beer ......

Next will be ration cards for food .....

Next will be brand names of clothing .....

Next ... religion?

Next ..........?

Communism? a form of....?

All coming from a small bunch of "elite" EU Controllers who "know" what is good for YOU!
Nov 22, 2010 2:48 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
smoky: This last Saturday, I went, as usual, to my usual tobacco shop to load up with my cheap loose tobacco.

All the tobacco goods were draped with white sheets. All the cigarette packets had white labels stating just "Zigaretten". NO brand names visible.

I asked the owner guy "Why?"

He began to talk ......"This is what the EU is wanting ...... NO cigarette brand names ... ONLY TWO types of tobacco available .. Grey or Black".......

"NEXT will come alcohol ... Wines ......and Beers ........!

"Total control of the population!"

"Next will be the Churches ... Only ONE Church!"

"Will we be having Gumboots marching the pavements to control WHAT we have in our shops...? ...... Shoving old ladies and children into the gutters....?

THIS is a person who is trying to make people aware of what the EU is attempting to do the the average citizen!

Is THIS the "Beginning of the End"?
Nope,time to call Mr.Schmidt-Rubin out of the Locker!!!!!!!!!!!
Nov 22, 2010 2:49 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
And WHO is Mr Schmidt-Rubin?

Call him!
Nov 22, 2010 2:51 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixSarkoville, Ile-de-France France110 Threads 32 Polls 2,591 Posts
JAN_is: I read something about that a few weeks ago. How does it work exactly? Can people still buy the brand they want?


Aren't you a traitor to the cause....Unless of course you've decided to back over to the dark side..grin

It's more sinister than just no brand ciggies...

Read this over a jo folk's....

March of the Euro police: The shocking powers of prosecution the EU has over all of us



Nov 22, 2010 2:57 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
No I haven´t, well except for a sneaky drag of a friend´s ciggie a few weeks ago after one too many vinos! But most people seem to smoke here in Spain, and I haven´t seen any "white sheets".

The Spanish never abide by the law though. laugh
Nov 22, 2010 3:02 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Phoenix: Aren't you a traitor to the cause....Unless of course you've decided to back over to the dark side..

It's more sinister than just no brand ciggies...

Read this over a jo folk's....

March of the Euro police: The shocking powers of prosecution the EU has over all of us


And .. everyone is kept SO busy working to make ends meet .. they have NO time to attend to. or read, all these fine details ... so this committee just goes ahead and makes regulations to control YOU!

After seeing those white sheets, and hearing this awful future scenario of population control ....... we went and sat in a smoky venue (where the owner has a huge smoking area because she has an even larger "restaurant") .. and this cosy atmosphere, over Espressos, we discussed the future ... and my Swiss boyfriend said .."aHHHHH ... not to worry ...there will be a Peoples Revolution! .. People will not stand for this type of control"

Boy .... am I glad I`m old, and gonna die one of these days .....But I still worry that I may be reborn into a new life here on this stupid Earth ......!
Nov 22, 2010 3:05 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Jan, I have seen this old guy, slowly over the years, work his business up into a thriving little venue. And he is very much a person who keeps up with "What is happening".

He was obviously trying to get the message across that this is what is in the future ........... unless people WAKE UP!

But .... seems it is too late anyway ... the decisions are being made ... irrespective of what the workers want.
Nov 22, 2010 3:13 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
Tulefel
TulefelTulefelGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden24 Threads 1 Polls 2,848 Posts
smoky:

...

"NEXT will come alcohol ... Wines ......and Beers ........!

"Total control of the population!"

"Next will be the Churches ... Only ONE Church!"

"Will we be having Gumboots marching the pavements to control WHAT we have in our shops...? ...... Shoving old ladies and children into the gutters....?

THIS is a person who is trying to make people aware of what the EU is attempting to do the the average citizen!

Is THIS the "Beginning of the End"?


Sounds like Gorbachev-times. laugh

When I smoked, I preferred LM, but in Gorbchev-times you’ve got to smoke what you managed to get. Shall we write a petition or some such? While it’s still democracy?

grin
Nov 22, 2010 3:35 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
smoky: And WHO is Mr Schmidt-Rubin?

Call him!
he has a 7.5mm Caliber!


Nov 22, 2010 3:53 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
Tulefel
TulefelTulefelGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden24 Threads 1 Polls 2,848 Posts
Conrad73: he has a 7.5mm Caliber!http://www.tri-eagle-firearms.com/Schmidt_Rubin.jpg


But what’d they do to Messer?

laugh
Nov 22, 2010 4:08 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
wordsmith99
wordsmith99wordsmith99Lyon, Rhone-Alpes France2 Threads 399 Posts
Smoking related disease kills more than 650,000 Europeans every year and 1 in 4 of all deaths from cancer in the EU is caused by smoking.

The attempts across EU to prevent people smoking, and in particular to prevent children from getting hooked on it, aim to tackle those shocking statistics. So you can expect more anti-smoking measures in time.

These measures however are not imposed by the EU, which does not have the power to impose them, but by national governments who are desperate to cut their health care bills by slashing numbers of people getting ill in the first place.

See what it would do to the budget if 25% of cancer patients simply never got ill? See the cash the health care systems would save?

Yup, it's all about money...

Wxx
Nov 22, 2010 4:15 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
Tulefel
TulefelTulefelGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden24 Threads 1 Polls 2,848 Posts
wordsmith99: Smoking related disease kills more than 650,000 Europeans every year and 1 in 4 of all deaths from cancer in the EU is caused by smoking.

The attempts across EU to prevent people smoking, and in particular to prevent children from getting hooked on it, aim to tackle those shocking statistics. So you can expect more anti-smoking measures in time.

These measures however are not imposed by the EU, which does not have the power to impose them, but by national governments who are desperate to cut their health care bills by slashing numbers of people getting ill in the first place.

See what it would do to the budget if 25% of cancer patients simply never got ill? See the cash the health care systems would save?

Yup, it's all about money...

Wxx


Someone on this site presented statistics that health care to a large part is financed by “tobacco” money. And as rumor has it, there’s no that much evidence between cancer and smoking.

Smoking does though cause other deceases that are expensive both in terms of money and health.


wave
Nov 22, 2010 5:34 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
Tulefel: But what’d they do to Messer?
well,I qualified with that Thing way back!
still sitting in my Cupboard!laugh
Nov 22, 2010 6:10 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixSarkoville, Ile-de-France France110 Threads 32 Polls 2,591 Posts
smoky: And .. everyone is kept SO busy working to make ends meet .. they have NO time to attend to. or read, all these fine details ... so this committee just goes ahead and makes regulations to control YOU ......!



That's about the bottom line...
Nov 22, 2010 6:47 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixSarkoville, Ile-de-France France110 Threads 32 Polls 2,591 Posts
Conrad73: Nope,time to call Mr.Schmidt-Rubin out of the Locker!!!!!!!!!!!


smoky: And WHO is Mr Schmidt-Rubin?


(I did a radder's and went to wiki)


Mr Schmidt-Rubin**

The Schmidt-Rubin rifles were a series of Swiss Army service rifles in use between 1889 and 1953. They are distinguished by the straight-pull bolt action invented by Rudolf Schmidt and use Eduard Rubin's 7.5x55mm rifle cartridge.

Could come to that....But I doubt if it'll be revoluntary...Probably, a 24/7-365 state of emergency and Smitty's gun's will be pointed as us...

**http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmidt-Rubin
Nov 23, 2010 1:55 AM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
Phoenix: (I did a radder's and went to wiki)Mr Schmidt-Rubin**

The Schmidt-Rubin rifles were a series of Swiss Army service rifles in use between 1889 and 1953. They are distinguished by the straight-pull bolt action invented by Rudolf Schmidt and use Eduard Rubin's 7.5x55mm rifle cartridge.

Could come to that....But I doubt if it'll be revoluntary...Probably, a 24/7-365 state of emergency and Smitty's gun's will be pointed as us...

**http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmidt-Rubin
Well,mine says different!laugh
Nov 23, 2010 2:30 AM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
nicosiagal
nicosiagalnicosiagalNicosia, Cyprus2 Posts
Smoky, I tend to agree with most of what you have expressed here and have become increasingly alarmed at the "Big Brother is watching you (rather "controlling you") effect joining the EU has had on us, in Cyprus. We are working like donkeys, with no light at the end of the tunnel, with an almost sure declaration by our government that me might not get the pension we thought we would (which was not much to start off with anyway) when we are at a pensionable age, or even worse, we might not get a pension at all!!!! This would have been unheard of before we joined the EU!

We have to comply to all the taxes and price increases because "the EU demands it" yet if we ever have a court case that is difficult and even our Supreme Court cannot solve it to our liking, we apply to the European Court, the latter tells us that it is a matter concerning our country and our government and sends us packing back!

Oh, yes! We are feeling it. I call it the Economic war on the the people. In every civilization, there is a Rise and Fall. Also if you have noticed, big revolutions and World Wars always start with public discontent about extreme economic discomforts... I really don't envy the future generation...
Nov 23, 2010 1:25 PM CST The EU is coming to get YOU!
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
wordsmith99: Smoking related disease kills more than 650,000 Europeans every year and 1 in 4 of all deaths from cancer in the EU is caused by smoking.

The attempts across EU to prevent people smoking, and in particular to prevent children from getting hooked on it, aim to tackle those shocking statistics. So you can expect more anti-smoking measures in time.

These measures however are not imposed by the EU, which does not have the power to impose them, but by national governments who are desperate to cut their health care bills by slashing numbers of people getting ill in the first place.

See what it would do to the budget if 25% of cancer patients simply never got ill? See the cash the health care systems would save?

Yup, it's all about money...

Wxx


Well, Wordy, I always respect your views, but in this case I differ.

People have been smoking ever since fire was invented.

What is causing cancer is not smoking - but what is in the FOOD...and in the AIR ......

Cancer, like smoking, as ALWAYS been around. We ALL have cancerous cells in our bodies. But our bodies shed them .. with healthy nutrition.
The key word is NUTRITION.

What we eat is SO false, and chemical-ised. The cancer just gets out of control.

There are other worse forms of death available, but not nearly as revenue inducing as cancer?

And .. cancer treatments are ONLY given to folk who own property.
If you have nothing, you get NO treatment.

So .. tell me WHERE cancer is "costing" governments?

I have never seen any inducements for foof producers to NOT add stuff like Monosodiumglutomates to their foods..? ... Or Steroids to animals for food? .. or restrict laboratories from supplying artificial colourants and flavourants to foods? ALL of which cause dire ill health and death.
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