Did 3000 people really die on 9/11 (117)
PhoenixBelfast....., Antrim Ireland274 Threads 65 Polls 6,948 Posts
That first video is great.
I applaud the guy who did the research.
I applaud the guy who did the research.
RayfromUSA: That first video is great.
I applaud the guy who did the research.
I applaud the guy who did the research.
These two are bad either. Basically non of the passenger lists tally.
I don't believe the 9/11 report. And some of the hijackers were alive after the attacks. Do I think your Gov. will ever come clean. Nope. Much in the same way I don't think the British Gov. will ever come clean about what they got up to in my neck of the woods (north of Ireland). Basically because of what I know the Brit. Gov got up to in my neck of the woods, I believe the USA Gov. are capable of the same types of things (Black flags op's).
I couldn't hear the first video well as it kept cracking, but enough to get the jist of it. Alarming stuff, Phoenix...that and the video that followed. Not a surprise that such conduct occurs with the FBI and CIA, but the level of detail makes these organisations as well as the US and UK governments, especially gruesome. Of-course we all do know that it is never the actual government which actually pulls the strings.
Thanks for posting these. They should be continually splashed across major newspapers and doco programs to keep such things at the forefront of people's minds.JMO
Thanks for posting these. They should be continually splashed across major newspapers and doco programs to keep such things at the forefront of people's minds.JMO
venere08:
Thanks for posting these. They should be continually splashed across major newspapers and doco programs to keep such things at the forefront of people's minds.JMO
Thanks for posting these. They should be continually splashed across major newspapers and doco programs to keep such things at the forefront of people's minds.JMO
V, the whole 9/11 (and lots more) smells of tuna to me (very fishy).
I don't always agree with Alex, but he's on the ball with this.
They talk about a 'War on terrorism'. I think it's a bunch of terrorists looking for a war..
The "official" (total BS animation) version.
Notice at 1:05 that the supposed plane supposedly hit 6 different concrete floors edge on, not to mention hitting about 45 vertical structural steel I-beams.
The steel in each one of those I-beams is about 3/4 inches thick.
This is what an I-beam looks like.
And the supposed aluminum plane supposedly somehow sliced right through 45 of these, as well as hitting 6 different 5 foot thick steel-reinforced concrete floors edge on. And yet the supposed plane supposedly disappeared entirely into the building without any sort of breakup or crash and without even slowing down. Only once the plane totally disappeared inside the building was there any sign of explosion or any debris.
That's so impossible it doesn't even bear discussing.
All of the videos showing the plane disappearing into the building are fakes. And anyone in the media or government who is claiming them to be valid is quite obviously either an idiot or a liar.
There are some liars who pretend that if an aircraft is moving fast enough it can defy the laws of physics and punch its way through steel and concrete.
In truth however, it doesn't matter how fast a plane is flying, the stationary (kinetic) inertia of the building is far higher than the moving inertia of the aircraft. The building's mass and strength will splatter the aircraft every time. Never the other way around.
If an aluminum airplane hits a massive concrete and steel building, it is the aircraft that crumbles, not the building.
The only think that can punch a hole into a solid building is a cruise missile with a kinetic penetrator such as depleted uranium.
Notice at 1:05 that the supposed plane supposedly hit 6 different concrete floors edge on, not to mention hitting about 45 vertical structural steel I-beams.
The steel in each one of those I-beams is about 3/4 inches thick.
This is what an I-beam looks like.
And the supposed aluminum plane supposedly somehow sliced right through 45 of these, as well as hitting 6 different 5 foot thick steel-reinforced concrete floors edge on. And yet the supposed plane supposedly disappeared entirely into the building without any sort of breakup or crash and without even slowing down. Only once the plane totally disappeared inside the building was there any sign of explosion or any debris.
That's so impossible it doesn't even bear discussing.
All of the videos showing the plane disappearing into the building are fakes. And anyone in the media or government who is claiming them to be valid is quite obviously either an idiot or a liar.
There are some liars who pretend that if an aircraft is moving fast enough it can defy the laws of physics and punch its way through steel and concrete.
In truth however, it doesn't matter how fast a plane is flying, the stationary (kinetic) inertia of the building is far higher than the moving inertia of the aircraft. The building's mass and strength will splatter the aircraft every time. Never the other way around.
If an aluminum airplane hits a massive concrete and steel building, it is the aircraft that crumbles, not the building.
The only think that can punch a hole into a solid building is a cruise missile with a kinetic penetrator such as depleted uranium.
In this age of computer image treatment software, video "proof" is worth not one bit more than cartoon animation "proof".
mmm some very interesting evidence given to us by a fully fledged Aeronautical and Structural Engineer. As usual also the findings fully and explicitly documented.
gussi: mmm some very interesting evidence given to us by a fully fledged Aeronautical and Structural Engineer. As usual also the findings fully and explicitly documented.
And you think it isn't media controlled. Was 9/11 a black flags op. Yes.
He seems to know what he's talking about.....
It'll only take 2hrs out of your lives folks..Watch it then decide for yourselves.
Phoenix: And you think it isn't media controlled. Was 9/11 a black flags op. Yes.
I have no idea whether it was media controlled or whether it was a Black op. Just a shame so many had to lose their lives.
Phoenix: It'll only take 2hrs out of your lives folks..Watch it then decide for yourselves.
OMG! Thanks Phoenix, I watched it ...(2 hours of my life!
)...but anyways ......
from the point on from 2.14.22 .... it begins to be REAL scary!
... that is EXACTLY what happened in South Africa, before citizens began to plant bombs in supermarkets in desperation against the government taking their family members away and locking them up without a trial, in some cases, after the New Government was elected in 1994, at the trials of government and army leaders, it was exposed that many innocent arrested folk were simply taken out to sea in helicopters, with their hands tied, and dumped into the sea out of sight of land (no messy trials, just kill them!)
And now America is doing the same? And getting away with their criminality?
smoky:
... that is EXACTLY what happened in South Africa, before citizens began to plant bombs in supermarkets in desperation against the government taking their family members away and locking them up without a trial, in some cases, after the New Government was elected in 1994, at the trials of government and army leaders, it was exposed that many innocent arrested folk were simply taken out to sea in helicopters, with their hands tied, and dumped into the sea out of sight of land (no messy trials, just kill them!)
And now America is doing the same? And getting away with their criminality?
... that is EXACTLY what happened in South Africa, before citizens began to plant bombs in supermarkets in desperation against the government taking their family members away and locking them up without a trial, in some cases, after the New Government was elected in 1994, at the trials of government and army leaders, it was exposed that many innocent arrested folk were simply taken out to sea in helicopters, with their hands tied, and dumped into the sea out of sight of land (no messy trials, just kill them!)
And now America is doing the same? And getting away with their criminality?
While you're having your expresso smoky watch this one...
I think that what happened in South Africa & the North of Ireland (lots of places in South America & South Asia too) were only dress rehersals, kinda like they ( the puppet masters) were tweaking their ideas and ironing out the teething problems before they put in to place their big plan.
What I hope is that when we move into the new age of Aquarius, we as people look back at what happened during the age of Pisces and learn from it.
Phoenix: While you're having your expresso smoky watch this one...
I think that what happened in South Africa & the North of Ireland (lots of places in South America & South Asia too) were only dress rehersals, kinda like they ( the puppet masters) were tweaking their ideas and ironing out the teething problems before they put in to place their big plan.
What I hope is that when we move into the new age of Aquarius, we as people look back at what happened during the age of Pisces and learn from it.
I think that what happened in South Africa & the North of Ireland (lots of places in South America & South Asia too) were only dress rehersals, kinda like they ( the puppet masters) were tweaking their ideas and ironing out the teething problems before they put in to place their big plan.
What I hope is that when we move into the new age of Aquarius, we as people look back at what happened during the age of Pisces and learn from it.
We need to get to the The Taurus Age!
Ahh its the same with the food industry, pharma industries, agriculture, etc.
At the moment they (USA) just signed up most of Africa for their GM seeds - you know the ones?...... them seeds with their in-built chemicals .....?..... that kill bees trying to polinate them...? So ...... in a few years to come, when there are no more bees(and other insects to polinate) ... and the seeds are sterile hybrids ..... the whole of Africa will HAVE to BUY their seeds .... from Big Brother USA - and pay the price! ... Because their soil will be effed up and sterile.
And meantime all natural food producers in USA are being victimised.
Sad world this. Glad I`ll be leaving one of these days!
gussi: I have no idea whether it was media controlled or whether it was a Black op. Just a shame so many had to lose their lives.
I don't think 911 was media controlled.
But I certainly think the media is controlled by those behind 911.
smoky:
At the moment they (USA) just signed up most of Africa for their GM seeds - you know the ones?...... them seeds with their in-built chemicals .....?
And meantime all natural food producers in USA are being victimised.
At the moment they (USA) just signed up most of Africa for their GM seeds - you know the ones?...... them seeds with their in-built chemicals .....?
And meantime all natural food producers in USA are being victimised.
The use of such GM seeds in India led to the suicide of thousands of farmers. The seeds were advertised to provide greater yields and nearly all farmers were duped into buying them. Then it turned out they require a lot more water and fertilizer and the farmers had to mortgage their farms to try to keep from losing their entire crops. And then because the second generation seeds are sterile, the farmers had to buy seed again the next year. So the banks and money lenders ended up owning the farms and the poor farmers drank pesticide to kill themselves. Monsanto is the most evil company on earth. They were the makers of agent orange.
gussi: I have no idea whether it was media controlled or whether it was a Black op. Just a shame so many had to lose their lives.
It's media controlled. When you start to look at the boards of big media companies and their connections with goverments, you'll see where I'm coming from.
A classic case is the Murdoch empire. You have to ask what were various UK PM's having various meetings with him. I doubt if it was social vists and swapping pics of their kids, grand kids.
I'm not sure as many people died in the initial attack as was claimed. At least six of the sky-jackers were in a different part of the world at the time..Thats makes it 13 and not 19 as orifinally claimed. And all the 'victims' names etc on all published lists don't tally.
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