The present - tomorrow's past yesterday's future Is the past an illusion? Is the future a fantasy? What is Time? Our scientists cannot say If there are no events to measure it will Time exist? Did it have a beginning? Will it have an ending? What is Time?
socrates44OPSan Fernando, Trinidad and TobagoAug 24, 2013
beautifulyou
Thanks for your comment. Einstein said: "Time is an illusion". I am curious to know a bit about how the statement you quoted was manifested in your experience since I do not fully grasp it.
beautifulyouNew York, USAAug 25, 2013
Hi socrates,
I had heard Rilke's words quite some time ago and could, at best, grasp them on a superficial level (via the mind).
If I would attempt to describe his words to you in writing, it would again have no more clarity than the quote itself..
In my experience, to know the meaning of Rilke's words comes Vis-à-vis the experience of them
socrates44OPSan Fernando, Trinidad and TobagoAug 25, 2013
Hello beautifulyou
Here are my comments on your quote.
"The future enters into us, in order to transform itself in us, long before it happens".
I can understand that the past can have an effect on the present, that is, our present situation may be influenced by past events in our lives, including our past actions. This is almost like a cause-effect relationship, with past events as the cause and the present as the effect.
I can also see that the present may have an effect on the future, that is, our present actions may have certain consequences for us in the future.
I can also see that thoughts about the future may have an effect on our present actions. This is the typical situation when one sets a goal to be achieved in the future and takes certain actions in the present to attain that goal. If that is what the quote refers to, then I can accept it.
If the quote refers to the actual future itself, and not thoughts about the future, then this seems to me to be an acceptance of Predestination. I believe most people in Western society are inclined toward Free Will instead of Predestination.
I wish to point out that my piece on TIME refers to the actual nature of time itself based on the occurrence of events and not to thoughts about the past, present or future. This is why I wrote:
"If there are no events to measure it will time exist?
The above are my views on the quote you mentioned. Please guide me on any oversight that I may have made. Thank You.
beautifulyouNew York, USAAug 25, 2013
'I wish to point out that my piece on TIME refers to the actual nature of time itself based on the occurrence of events and not to thoughts about the past, present or future.'
Yes, socrates, and that is why I cannot respond beyond what I already have... The actual nature of time, in my experience, is not based on the occurance of events, nor is it based on the occurance of thoughts about p, p, or f...
Fortunately or unfortunately, no philosophical discussion cannot remedy the wondering... in my experience, only experience can breathe breath into it
beautifulyouNew York, USAAug 25, 2013
meant.. Fortunately or unfortunately, no philosophical discussion cannot remedy the wondering... in my experience, only experience can breathe breath into it
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everything becomes a memory and time rules us if we let it
Thank you for your comment.
How do we fight time?
Thank you for your commendation.
Thanks for your comment.
A cycle is a repetition of a sequence of events and may be used to measure time but if there are no events, will time exist?
although just this morning I had the experience of which Rainer Maria Rilke wrote:
“The future enters into us, in order to transform itself in us, long before it happens.”
Your write reminds me of Alan Lightman's novel 'Einsteins Dreams'
Thanks for your comment.
Einstein said: "Time is an illusion".
I am curious to know a bit about how the statement you quoted was manifested in your experience since I do not fully grasp it.
I had heard Rilke's words quite some time ago and could, at best, grasp them on a superficial level (via the mind).
If I would attempt to describe his words to you in writing, it would again have no more clarity than the quote itself..
In my experience, to know the meaning of Rilke's words comes Vis-à-vis the experience of them
Here are my comments on your quote.
"The future enters into us, in order to transform itself in us, long before it happens".
I can understand that the past can have an effect on the present, that is, our present situation may be influenced by past events in our lives, including our past actions. This is almost like a cause-effect relationship, with past events as the cause and the present as the effect.
I can also see that the present may have an effect on the future, that is, our present actions may have certain consequences for us in the future.
I can also see that thoughts about the future may have an effect on our present actions. This is the typical situation when one sets a goal to be achieved in the future and takes certain actions in the present to attain that goal. If that is what the quote refers to, then I can accept it.
If the quote refers to the actual future itself, and not thoughts about the future, then this seems to me to be an acceptance of Predestination. I believe most people in Western society are inclined toward Free Will instead of Predestination.
I wish to point out that my piece on TIME refers to the actual nature of time itself based on the occurrence of events and not to thoughts about the past, present or future. This is why I wrote:
"If there are no events
to measure it
will time exist?
The above are my views on the quote you mentioned. Please guide me on any oversight that I may have made. Thank You.
Yes, socrates,
and that is why I cannot respond beyond what I already have...
The actual nature of time, in my experience, is not based on the occurance of events, nor is it based on the occurance of thoughts about p, p, or f...
Fortunately or unfortunately, no philosophical discussion cannot remedy the wondering...
in my experience, only experience can breathe breath into it
Fortunately or unfortunately,
nophilosophical discussion cannot remedy the wondering...in my experience, only experience can breathe breath into it