Occupy Wall Street VS Tea Party? (192)
6 to one, half a dozen to another. 
I think most people smell something rotten, they're just confused about where the stink is coming from.
Keeping us divided solves nothing.
I think most people smell something rotten, they're just confused about where the stink is coming from.
Keeping us divided solves nothing.
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Just trying to figure this out for myself...... I went to a Tea Party meeting in my area. The party was about understanding the Constitution and how to research the people running for office.
Now, as far as the protesters, I've been told that most are paid and some even cause havoc to weaken this countries right to demonstrate.
Now, as far as the protesters, I've been told that most are paid and some even cause havoc to weaken this countries right to demonstrate.
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NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: Just trying to figure this out for myself...... I went to a Tea Party meeting in my area. The party was about understanding the Constitution and how to research the people running for office.
Now, as far as the protesters, I've been told that most are paid and some even cause havoc to weaken this countries right to demonstrate.
Now, as far as the protesters, I've been told that most are paid and some even cause havoc to weaken this countries right to demonstrate.
Self-interest often masquerades as ideology.
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Class5: Self-interest often masquerades as ideology.
With our current administration, self-interest is always masqueraded as ideology.
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And the last one not? That's what politicians do... sell lies. While the true business at hand goes on behind closed doors. 
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While I'm not exactly on board for his last paragraph, considering that most of that middle class came from the working class originally... he's pretty dead on for the whys of how we got in this pickle we're in.
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gininitaly: http://www.bestoftheblogs.com/Home/45681
While I'm not exactly on board for his last paragraph, considering that most of that middle class came from the working class originally... he's pretty dead on for the whys of how we got in this pickle we're in.
While I'm not exactly on board for his last paragraph, considering that most of that middle class came from the working class originally... he's pretty dead on for the whys of how we got in this pickle we're in.
So you think sentimental liberalism is the answer?
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The occupy Wall Street protests may have been well intentioned by the original organizers, but where is their focus? Wall Street, taxes the rich, stop the Wars, and end Capitalism, the Environment, embrace SOCIALISM? Occupy has raised over $300,000 Dollars – from who?
1 out of 7 people who live in NYC either work for or are dependent on Wall Street for Jobs.
These protests remind me of the hippie and yippy environment of the 60’s and 70’s – no focus or mission statement and “give us a free hand out from the Government” type of Socialistic ideology.
I cringe every time I see an occupier use a cell phone, I pad and other electronic devices created by Wall Street Corporations. Hypocritical. It was bound to happen that the violent element and troublemakers would now show up as part of the protests.
Freedom Jamboree - Tea Party Featurette
Mission Statement: To conduct a national "grassroots" Tea Party movement nominating convention for the offices of President and Vice President of the United States, as a fifty state Tea Party "straw poll," in Kansas City on Sept. 28th through Oct. 2nd; at the same time providing each state's Tea Party and 9.12 groups a caucus area to rally and discuss their local, state, and national candidates and any legislation or issues important to their independent groups.
Tea Party Patriots: HOW TO HELP PEOPLE HELP THEMSELVES
Tea Party Patriots.2012 - YouTube
1 out of 7 people who live in NYC either work for or are dependent on Wall Street for Jobs.
These protests remind me of the hippie and yippy environment of the 60’s and 70’s – no focus or mission statement and “give us a free hand out from the Government” type of Socialistic ideology.
I cringe every time I see an occupier use a cell phone, I pad and other electronic devices created by Wall Street Corporations. Hypocritical. It was bound to happen that the violent element and troublemakers would now show up as part of the protests.
Freedom Jamboree - Tea Party Featurette
Mission Statement: To conduct a national "grassroots" Tea Party movement nominating convention for the offices of President and Vice President of the United States, as a fifty state Tea Party "straw poll," in Kansas City on Sept. 28th through Oct. 2nd; at the same time providing each state's Tea Party and 9.12 groups a caucus area to rally and discuss their local, state, and national candidates and any legislation or issues important to their independent groups.
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Tea Party Patriots: HOW TO HELP PEOPLE HELP THEMSELVES
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Tea Party Patriots.2012 - YouTube
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johnaustin123: I’m a bit to the Right in Politics…only right of the Centrist opinion…Conservative Libertarian.
I see hypocrisy in the occupy Wall Street protests around the world.
The recent violence by the Wall Street protesters and the far Liberal Left has turned my stomach, whereas the nonviolent Tea Party Movement did the correct thing…get elected to Congress.
Opinions?
Your political leaning is well known to everybody who reads these pages, no need to explain. "far Liberal Left" I'd like to see your sources for this statement. My guess is there are a lot of unemployed Republicans demonstrating in the OWS movement. Just think, if these people had jobs, they wouldn't be able to take the time to demonstrate. You just don't get it do you?I see hypocrisy in the occupy Wall Street protests around the world.
The recent violence by the Wall Street protesters and the far Liberal Left has turned my stomach, whereas the nonviolent Tea Party Movement did the correct thing…get elected to Congress.
Opinions?
BTW, I never saw anybody with an assault rifle at any of these demonstrations like I saw at a Tea Party rally. That turned my stomach thinking of the potential result of such a practice.
It seems to me that both movements want basically the same thing. Politicians who perform, an end to the food fight that's going on in DC, an end to this stupid war(s) in the middle east, an end to wasteful borrowing and spending to support an unsustainable lifestyle, an end to sending jobs and our intellectual property to China, an end to being the police force for the rest of the world, an end to tax laws that enable the richest among us to avoid paying their fair share, shall I go on of have you heard enough?
You, and people like you, are part of the problem by stoking this polarity and division with threads like this instead of trying to bring together both sides to work together instead of butting heads ad infinitum.
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One more thing, I hope Cain gets elected and his stupid 9-9-9 plan goes into effect so I don't have to pay any tax on the fortune I'm making in capital gains on Wall Street.
Be back later the stock market just opened and I have to make a few trades.
Be back later the stock market just opened and I have to make a few trades.
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ooby_dooby: One more thing, I hope Cain gets elected and his stupid 9-9-9 plan goes into effect so I don't have to pay any tax on the fortune I'm making in capital gains on Wall Street.
Be back later the stock market just opened and I have to make a few trades.
Be back later the stock market just opened and I have to make a few trades.
I'm not so sure Cain's 999 tax plan is stupid. Tennessee has being paying .975 sales tax for quite some time. It seems to be working out just fine and it does level the playing field. A 9% BVA tax would put the cost of tax collection back in the hands of business where it belongs, and the only thing I would change on a straight 9% fed income tax is to allow dependent deductions and mortgage interest deduction. Everyone, no matter what their income level, should pay taxes. If paying taxes puts too big a burden on the support of their household, they should take a second job.
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ooby_dooby: Your political leaning is well known to everybody who reads these pages, no need to explain. "far Liberal Left" I'd like to see your sources for this statement. My guess is there are a lot of unemployed Republicans demonstrating in the OWS movement. Just think, if these people had jobs, they wouldn't be able to take the time to demonstrate. You just don't get it do you?
BTW, I never saw anybody with an assault rifle at any of these demonstrations like I saw at a Tea Party rally. That turned my stomach thinking of the potential result of such a practice.
It seems to me that both movements want basically the same thing. Politicians who perform, an end to the food fight that's going on in DC, an end to this stupid war(s) in the middle east, an end to wasteful borrowing and spending to support an unsustainable lifestyle, an end to sending jobs and our intellectual property to China, an end to being the police force for the rest of the world, an end to tax laws that enable the richest among us to avoid paying their fair share, shall I go on of have you heard enough?
You, and people like you, are part of the problem by stoking this polarity and division with threads like this instead of trying to bring together both sides to work together instead of butting heads ad infinitum.
BTW, I never saw anybody with an assault rifle at any of these demonstrations like I saw at a Tea Party rally. That turned my stomach thinking of the potential result of such a practice.
It seems to me that both movements want basically the same thing. Politicians who perform, an end to the food fight that's going on in DC, an end to this stupid war(s) in the middle east, an end to wasteful borrowing and spending to support an unsustainable lifestyle, an end to sending jobs and our intellectual property to China, an end to being the police force for the rest of the world, an end to tax laws that enable the richest among us to avoid paying their fair share, shall I go on of have you heard enough?
You, and people like you, are part of the problem by stoking this polarity and division with threads like this instead of trying to bring together both sides to work together instead of butting heads ad infinitum.
You said it better than I could have. Spot on post!!!
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ooby_dooby: Your political leaning is well known to everybody who reads these pages, no need to explain. "far Liberal Left" I'd like to see your sources for this statement. My guess is there are a lot of unemployed Republicans demonstrating in the OWS movement. Just think, if these people had jobs, they wouldn't be able to take the time to demonstrate. You just don't get it do you?
BTW, I never saw anybody with an assault rifle at any of these demonstrations like I saw at a Tea Party rally. That turned my stomach thinking of the potential result of such a practice.
It seems to me that both movements want basically the same thing. Politicians who perform, an end to the food fight that's going on in DC, an end to this stupid war(s) in the middle east, an end to wasteful borrowing and spending to support an unsustainable lifestyle, an end to sending jobs and our intellectual property to China, an end to being the police force for the rest of the world, an end to tax laws that enable the richest among us to avoid paying their fair share, shall I go on of have you heard enough?
You, and people like you, are part of the problem by stoking this polarity and division with threads like this instead of trying to bring together both sides to work together instead of butting heads ad infinitum.
BTW, I never saw anybody with an assault rifle at any of these demonstrations like I saw at a Tea Party rally. That turned my stomach thinking of the potential result of such a practice.
It seems to me that both movements want basically the same thing. Politicians who perform, an end to the food fight that's going on in DC, an end to this stupid war(s) in the middle east, an end to wasteful borrowing and spending to support an unsustainable lifestyle, an end to sending jobs and our intellectual property to China, an end to being the police force for the rest of the world, an end to tax laws that enable the richest among us to avoid paying their fair share, shall I go on of have you heard enough?
You, and people like you, are part of the problem by stoking this polarity and division with threads like this instead of trying to bring together both sides to work together instead of butting heads ad infinitum.
For what it's worth:
Democratic pollster Douglas Schoen's firm surveys the mob, and turns up some...interesting results:
The protesters have a distinct ideology and are bound by a deep commitment to radical left-wing policies. On Oct. 10 and 11, Arielle Alter Confino, a senior researcher at my polling firm, interviewed nearly 200 protesters in New York's Zuccotti Park. Our findings probably represent the first systematic random sample of Occupy Wall Street opinion.
Our research shows clearly that the movement doesn't represent unemployed America and is not ideologically diverse. Rather, it comprises an unrepresentative segment of the electorate that believes in radical redistribution of wealth, civil disobedience and, in some instances, violence. Half (52%) have participated in a political movement before, virtually all (98%) say they would support civil disobedience to achieve their goals, and nearly one-third (31%) would support violence to advance their agenda.
We should view this so-called "movement's" distressingly prevalent violent streak with deep contempt, but we shouldn't be the least bit surprised by it. Its organizers and cheerleaders have been shrieking about bloody revolution and advocating hurling bricks through windows for days now, and this data suggests those infamous instances were not aberrations. But hey, wouldn't you at least consider civil disobedience if you were jobless and angry at "the system"? Perhaps, except...almost all of these people have jobs. They just tend to despise capitalism and the American system:
The vast majority of demonstrators are actually employed, and the proportion of protesters unemployed (15%) is within single digits of the national unemployment rate (9.1%). An overwhelming majority of demonstrators supported Barack Obama in 2008. Now 51% disapprove of the president while 44% approve, and only 48% say they will vote to re-elect him in 2012, while at least a quarter won't vote. Sixty-five percent say that government has a moral responsibility to guarantee all citizens access to affordable health care, a college education, and a secure retirement—no matter the cost. (Most want a lifetime guarantee for access to free Starbucks latte' <I injected that> The really didn't say that. :)
By a large margin (77%-22%), they support raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans.
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OOBY, you are the one butting heads…I’m just reporting what I see. You and the Liberal Far Left are the ones fighting in the streets, not the Tea Party…and it’s the Wall Street protesters that are not willing to work and want a free hand out. The wealthy pay their fair share in Taxes and have earned their money fairly and squarely because they worked hard for it, unlike their Socialist brothers in the Wall Street protests.
You fear Cain’s fair tax because then you will have to pay your fair share also instead of receiving Government hand outs. As far as Rifles at a Tea Party rally, do you agree or not with the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution…Right to bear arms? Show me a video of an act of violence by rifle at a Tea Party rally. Most likely it will occur at a Wall Street protest rally. Tea Party members do not break windows and burn cars like what happened in Rome.
Take that ride on Wall Street Stocks OOBY. Good Luck. You are investing in the same thing that you are diametrically opposed to.
Desperado, why don’t you come to your senses? Freedom, not Socialism, is worth fighting for.
Eagles and Linda Ronstadt Desperado Live RARE 1974 - YouTube
You fear Cain’s fair tax because then you will have to pay your fair share also instead of receiving Government hand outs. As far as Rifles at a Tea Party rally, do you agree or not with the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution…Right to bear arms? Show me a video of an act of violence by rifle at a Tea Party rally. Most likely it will occur at a Wall Street protest rally. Tea Party members do not break windows and burn cars like what happened in Rome.
Take that ride on Wall Street Stocks OOBY. Good Luck. You are investing in the same thing that you are diametrically opposed to.
Desperado, why don’t you come to your senses? Freedom, not Socialism, is worth fighting for.
Eagles and Linda Ronstadt Desperado Live RARE 1974 - YouTube
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Callie72: I'm not so sure Cain's 999 tax plan is stupid. Tennessee has being paying .975 sales tax for quite some time. It seems to be working out just fine and it does level the playing field. A 9% BVA tax would put the cost of tax collection back in the hands of business where it belongs, and the only thing I would change on a straight 9% fed income tax is to allow dependent deductions and mortgage interest deduction. Everyone, no matter what their income level, should pay taxes. If paying taxes puts too big a burden on the support of their household, they should take a second job.
Looks like someone doesn't like the idea of a 2nd job.
(according to the red thumb)I do agree w/you. Everyone should pay some taxes, even if it's only $1.00 a week from their paycheck. With 47% paying no taxes the other 53% is getting screwed.
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gininitaly: 6 to one, half a dozen to another.
I think most people smell something rotten, they're just confused about where the stink is coming from.
Keeping us divided solves nothing.
when you have leadership like Michelle Bachman in the tea party it doesn't give the party the look of having a whole lot of substance, shes an idiot and thier whole ideals are mean spirited and are meant to take away peoples rights . I have talked to tea party legislators and they are arrogant and self serving they care little about the people they serve.I think most people smell something rotten, they're just confused about where the stink is coming from.
Keeping us divided solves nothing.
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Then you come up with some numbers there pud.
Where do you think they got that 99% anyway? Just a figment of their imagination?
Where do you think they got that 99% anyway? Just a figment of their imagination?
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Yeah well, they all sound like televangelists spouting inflammatory pap if you ask me... at a time when we are truly on the brink of losing all that we hold decent and fair for.... everyone, or maybe I should say for most. 
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RM4, I did hit the quote button but it didn't:
"when you have leadership like Michelle Bachman in the tea party it doesn't give the party the look of having a whole lot of substance, shes an idiot and thier whole ideals are mean spirited and are meant to take away peoples rights . I have talked to tea party legislators and they are arrogant and self serving they care little about the people they serve."
"when you have leadership like Michelle Bachman in the tea party it doesn't give the party the look of having a whole lot of substance, shes an idiot and thier whole ideals are mean spirited and are meant to take away peoples rights . I have talked to tea party legislators and they are arrogant and self serving they care little about the people they serve."
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the tea party movement is made up by honest,godfearing,american patroits who want to make this nation strong again and to say that the politicions are working for us. while the occupy wall street protestors are being backed by people like george soros and other socialists who want to end capitalism and replacement with socialism. the protestors have a mob rule mentality that is disrespecting the law,promoting anarchy, and want to take down this great nation of ours. by supporting these idoits the democrats are going to have bad image and it will backfire on them. instead of protesting about wall street why don't they protest 1600 pennsyvania ave in front o fthe white house. i want to add that the president plan to redistrubute the wealth is more like soviets did back then when they tooked over russia.
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How short and bitter do you need it?
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gininitaly: Then you come up with some numbers there pud.
Where do you think they got that 99% anyway? Just a figment of their imagination?
Where do you think they got that 99% anyway? Just a figment of their imagination?
There's a high probability.
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gininitaly: How short and bitter do you need it?
I'm hoping Mahar is paying him since he's no longer employed.
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ooby_dooby: One more thing, I hope Cain gets elected and his stupid 9-9-9 plan goes into effect so I don't have to pay any tax on the fortune I'm making in capital gains on Wall Street.
Be back later the stock market just opened and I have to make a few trades.
Be back later the stock market just opened and I have to make a few trades.
I can't believe you're only interested in yourself. Now get down to Wall Street. (Just don't crap on police car. They frown on it.)
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harmon cain is the best choice for president. why u may ask. well he believes in a stong defence,running the government like a business, will be tough on immigration and get this nation back on its feet again
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.... did I forget to mention 'dig up dirt on them'?
Who cares what he said, probably even true. There's just as much dirt on your side of the isle, but I don't really care. I care about issues and yours stink.
Who cares what he said, probably even true. There's just as much dirt on your side of the isle, but I don't really care. I care about issues and yours stink.
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gininitaly: .... did I forget to mention 'dig up dirt on them'?
Who cares what he said, probably even true. There's just as much dirt on your side of the isle, but I don't really care. I care about issues and yours stink.
Who cares what he said, probably even true. There's just as much dirt on your side of the isle, but I don't really care. I care about issues and yours stink.
So, what you are saying is that tax cuts never helped poor and middle class families. Correct?
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Not half as much as social security, medicare, school kids insurance and breakfasts and community services do... you know; police, firemen, garbage collectors or the engineers who keep our roads and bridges in order?
But those are just services for bums right?
So... have you already hired your personal security people for the future?
But those are just services for bums right?
So... have you already hired your personal security people for the future?
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gininitaly: Not half as much as social security, medicare, school kids insurance and breakfasts and community services do... you know; police, firemen, garbage collectors or the engineers who keep our roads and bridges in order?
But those are just services for bums right?
So... have you already hired your personal security people for the future?
But those are just services for bums right?
So... have you already hired your personal security people for the future?
(I am researching data to refute that Democrat propaganda. Since it's "cherry-picked" information, it's difficult to find data that covers that timespan. Not giving up though...
(Hopefully US tax dollars aren't keeping Italian roads and bridges in order.)
Incidently, 1/2 of your listed services are state issues. The feds have nothing to do w/picking up garbage, most roads/bridges and teachers/firemen.
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Occupy Wall Street VS Tea Party?(Vote Below)
I see hypocrisy in the occupy Wall Street protests around the world.
The recent violence by the Wall Street protesters and the far Liberal Left has turned my stomach, whereas the nonviolent Tea Party Movement did the correct thing…get elected to Congress.
Opinions?