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Mar 14, 2012 10:48 PM CSTShould Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
JustDon29
JustDon29JustDon29Gastonia, North Carolina, USA2 Threads 1 Polls 33 Posts

Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?(Vote Below)

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The Obama administration is considering giving secret missile data to Russia.

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Mar 15, 2012 2:40 AM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
JustDon29
JustDon29JustDon29Gastonia, North Carolina USA2 Threads 1 Polls 33 Posts
JustDon29: The Obama administration is considering giving secret missile data to Russia.

news story



Link correction:

news.yahoo.com/exclusive-u-dangle-secret-data-russia-missile-shield-012403936.html
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Mar 15, 2012 4:45 AM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
Rubicon76
Rubicon76Rubicon76Doha, Qatar308 Posts
I guess if he gives it up it won't be secret anymore.

High treason in most countries is a capital offfence.
But it's not a treasonous action if it has senate backing.

Don't be daft. Its about time that there was alot more information sharing between bigger nations. Anything to bring administrations together more.

...and besides, remember what Nixon said "If the president does it, its not illegal"

Man, you guys get all the good ones...
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Mar 15, 2012 9:09 AM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Rubicon76:
Man, you guys get all the good ones...


That's why we're exporting our civilization to countries like yours.

We share our great leadership in return for control of your oil.

A win-win situation (we win both ways)
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Mar 15, 2012 9:46 AM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
RayfromUSA: That's why we're exporting our civilization to countries like yours.

We share our great leadership in return for control of your oil.

A win-win situation (we win both ways)



We even threw in a few big military bases for no extra charge.

Enjoy!
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Mar 15, 2012 9:51 AM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
As though Russia could trust the US to give information that would
allow Russia to penetrate NATO missile defenses.

To keep any semblance of parity, Russia should demand the right to deploy nuclear missiles and anti-missile systems in Cuba, promising to give similar VBO data to the Americans.
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Mar 15, 2012 10:07 AM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
wolfenfun
wolfenfunwolfenfunriddle, Oregon USA16 Threads 5 Polls 302 Posts
RayfromUSA: As though Russia could trust the US to give information that would
allow Russia to penetrate NATO missile defenses.

To keep any semblance of parity, Russia should demand the right to deploy nuclear missiles and anti-missile systems in Cuba, promising to give similar VBO data to the Americans.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,haqhahahahaha,thankx guys, i needed that. personally i think we're beyond treason,and anyone who can do anything,about it. i'm just waiting for mr burns to say "smithers,release the hounds."lol
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Mar 15, 2012 10:08 AM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
in my opinion this is treason to the max. this president is begging to be attacked. the russians are still our main enemy whether they are soviet or not. this man should be impeached and tried for high treason. to put it simply he is a sell out
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Mar 15, 2012 10:09 AM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
wolfenfun
wolfenfunwolfenfunriddle, Oregon USA16 Threads 5 Polls 302 Posts
wolfenfun: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,haqhahahahaha,thankx guys, i needed that. personally i think we're beyond treason,and anyone who can do anything,about it. i'm just waiting for mr burns to say "smithers,release the hounds."lol
just one more short;remember the first liar, doesn't stand a chance,lol
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Mar 15, 2012 11:22 AM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
Rubicon76
Rubicon76Rubicon76Doha, Qatar308 Posts
RayfromUSA: That's why we're exporting our civilization to countries like yours.

We share our great leadership in return for control of your oil.

A win-win situation (we win both ways)



Fool. I was being fascetious when I said that. Your leadership and administrations are dreadful and light years away from anything resembling 'great'. They would not be tolerated in this country or my own. Man, you guys have no idea about how the US is percieved externally, do you?

And for your information; the US has no control or influence in the Qatar government or Qatari oil reserve development. The major operators here are either local or Danish.

I sincerely hope you were joking. To imagine that America is more 'civilised' than here (or virtually anywhere) is simply illusory.

And by the way, its not 'my oil'. I am just here to help them get 'their oil' out of the ground. I am not a Qatar national and somehow it doesn't surprise me that you couldn't tell that.
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Mar 15, 2012 9:36 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
simpledeed
simpledeedsimpledeedToronto, Ontario Canada97 Posts
I do not think it is possible to try the president with treason.

but it is a lovely fantasy.

play on!
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Mar 15, 2012 10:44 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
JustDon29
JustDon29JustDon29Gastonia, North Carolina USA2 Threads 1 Polls 33 Posts
simpledeed: I do not think it is possible to try the president with treason.

but it is a lovely fantasy.

play on!


rolling on the floor laughing thumbs up
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Mar 16, 2012 10:34 AM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
john12196341: in my opinion this is treason to the max. this president is begging to be attacked. the russians are still our main enemy whether they are soviet or not. this man should be impeached and tried for high treason. to put it simply he is a sell out



You are a mad men, fanatic. Are you originally not from Texas,by chance?

You need to get laid and stay in that bed or whenever she will positioning you, forever. It will sure cure and improve your political views.

uh oh
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Mar 16, 2012 4:05 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
simpledeed: I do not think it is possible to try the president with treason.

but it is a lovely fantasy.

play on!


Actually it is legally possible to try the President for treason. Treason is a crime listed in the American Constitution. If we can try a President with impeachable charges, like Nixon was facing. Pretty sure the treason trial would go to the Senate as jurors, with the Supreme Court acting as a board of Judges.

Any American citizen can commit Treason. The President is a citizen first and a elected official second.

Is it likely the CiC will be charged with treason or other crime by releasing classified materials to a foreign government? No. Very unlikely that charges will be pressed.
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Mar 16, 2012 4:11 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
pops666
pops666pops666Waterloo,ontario, Ontario Canada4 Threads 1,387 Posts
Its not treason..its the american way of life...sell the weapons..claim you know they have them and then go in and attack...
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Mar 16, 2012 5:36 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
JustDon29
JustDon29JustDon29Gastonia, North Carolina USA2 Threads 1 Polls 33 Posts
pops666: Its not treason..its the american way of life...sell the weapons..claim you know they have them and then go in and attack...


1st it is not a weapons system that is for sale. It is a missile defense shield that has the capability of giving a protective umbrella for incoming missiles.Everyone wants to hate on America and yes we do deserve some criticism but we try to use technology for peaceful things too or in this case a defense against an aggressor. What has the government of Canada done to protect you sir from a hostile missile attack.
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Mar 16, 2012 6:11 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Since we are in the info trading business on classified information....maybe the Russians could give us the VOB and other technical specs of the "defenseless nuclear warhead" that they have?

They do claim that it is able to defeat 'all' anti ballistic missile
defense systems on reentry. But still seem to be very interested in the VOB of the American anti missiles system to even consider the trade.

If it was so indefensible.....why do they need the VOB of the American system?

Maybe the Russians have been blowing smoke on the abilities of the Topol-M and it warheads. Any European want to find out if they have been? A perfect way to do that.....is to start WWIII.
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Mar 16, 2012 6:15 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
pops666
pops666pops666Waterloo,ontario, Ontario Canada4 Threads 1,387 Posts
He's selling us out to the USA one piece at a time!!!
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Mar 16, 2012 6:35 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
Tulefel
TulefelTulefelGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden24 Threads 1 Polls 2,848 Posts
john12196341: in my opinion this is treason to the max. this president is begging to be attacked. the russians are still our main enemy whether they are soviet or not. this man should be impeached and tried for high treason. to put it simply he is a sell out


One needs to have an enemy, ain’t it? What else would be meaning with the life if there was any?

laugh
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Mar 16, 2012 6:43 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
JustDon29: The Obama administration is considering giving secret missile data to Russia.


Actually I think we should give Obama to the Russians.
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Mar 16, 2012 6:48 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Tulefel: One needs to have an enemy, ain’t it? What else would be meaning with the life if there was any?


Guitars of course.
And salmon lasagna.
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Mar 16, 2012 7:01 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
Tulefel
TulefelTulefelGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden24 Threads 1 Polls 2,848 Posts
RayfromUSA: Guitars of course.
And salmon lasagna.


Well… I’m not supposed to have an opinion on anyone’s cuisine preferences here… but what about bortchtshkcsh (how do you spell it, for goossake?)

laugh
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Mar 16, 2012 7:47 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
pops666: He's selling us out to the USA one piece at a time!!!


handshake thumbs up
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Mar 16, 2012 8:03 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
Forcedhand
ForcedhandForcedhandDublin, Ireland4 Threads 76 Posts
The trouble is you've asked two questions but only gave the opportunity for one answer.

Should he tell the Russians?

Is telling the Russians treason?

How can a single yes/no answer cover both?
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Mar 16, 2012 11:02 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
JustDon29
JustDon29JustDon29Gastonia, North Carolina USA2 Threads 1 Polls 33 Posts
Forcedhand: The trouble is you've asked two questions but only gave the opportunity for one answer.

Should he tell the Russians?

Is telling the Russians treason?

How can a single yes/no answer cover both?




You are mistaken there are two Yes boxes and two No boxes. Go to the original post.
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Mar 16, 2012 11:02 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
JustDon29
JustDon29JustDon29Gastonia, North Carolina USA2 Threads 1 Polls 33 Posts
Forcedhand: The trouble is you've asked two questions but only gave the opportunity for one answer.

Should he tell the Russians?

Is telling the Russians treason?

How can a single yes/no answer cover both?




You are mistaken there are two Yes boxes and two No boxes. Go to the original post.
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Mar 16, 2012 11:21 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
RayfromUSA: As though Russia could trust the US to give information that would
allow Russia to penetrate NATO missile defenses.

To keep any semblance of parity, Russia should demand the right to deploy nuclear missiles and anti-missile systems in Cuba, promising to give similar VBO data to the Americans.



Let's go even better: Prior to WW1, many countries, especially Imperial Russia, England and Imperial Germany exchanged full regiments to be stationed in each other's countries. It promoted 'better understanding and better relations', or at least it was supposed to. Let the US and Russia do that PLUS exchange full missile batteries and crews and let's see what develops...grin
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Mar 16, 2012 11:47 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
wink
Hey, give or sell?
If the administration can work a deal with info, that will pay our dues to those that are involved, by (buy) all means, settle the debt to all!
jmhowink

JustDon29: The Obama administration is considering giving secret missile data to Russia.

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Mar 16, 2012 11:56 PM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
Nikogas
NikogasNikogasMetro, Oregon USA46 Threads 5 Polls 4,037 Posts
I could throw in a couple haircuts and we would be ahead a few billion dollars!!!! (inflation) applause
wink
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Mar 17, 2012 2:12 AM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
solitare: Let's go even better: Prior to WW1, many countries, especially Imperial Russia, England and Imperial Germany exchanged full regiments to be stationed in each other's countries. It promoted 'better understanding and better relations', or at least it was supposed to. Let the US and Russia do that PLUS exchange full missile batteries and crews and let's see what develops...
something like the Old Hostages For Peace-Game?grin
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Mar 17, 2012 6:17 AM CST Should Obama give secret missle data to Russia? Would this be treason against the american people?
harry_bahrain
harry_bahrainharry_bahrainManama, Bahrain93 Posts
Sorry Boss, but I think its a meaningless Poll. America or any other nation won't give up on its secrets, unless they know that those 'secrets' are no longer 'secrets' or are not worth keeping secret anymore, or want to use it in a much larger plot.

So such 'vountary disclosures of 'secrets'' have no real impact vis-a-vis national security. Consequence of such would have already been factored in..
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