Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state? ( Archived) (802)

Mar 27, 2012 12:38 PM CSTShould Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
r3y5a6
r3y5a6r3y5a6Riyadh, Ar Riyad, Saudi Arabia22 Threads 20 Polls 17 Posts

Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?(Vote Below)

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Yes. It ends the conflict & give way good relation
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74%
No. Keep the promise land.
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Total Votes
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The author believes good relations between Palestine and Israel must be established. This will ease the hate of Muslim nations to Jewish people.

We people of various faith be it Muslim, Jews, Christians, Spiritual and other forms of faith must work hand in hand to convince or obligate Israel a partition of land to create an independent Palestine state to avoid future clashes of human race. SPREAD LOVE NOT HATRED AND STOP KILLINGS AND WARS.
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Mar 27, 2012 12:50 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
r3y5a6: The author believes good relations between Palestine and Israel must be established. This will ease the hate of Muslim nations to Jewish people.

We people of various faith be it Muslim, Jews, Christians, Spiritual and other forms of faith must work hand in hand to convince or obligate Israel a partition of land to create an independent Palestine state to avoid future clashes of human race. SPREAD LOVE NOT HATRED AND STOP KILLINGS AND WARS.

that would let quite a few people jobless...grin
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Mar 27, 2012 2:34 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
It will come in time . Arafat came close to it . Depending on who you wish to beleave , it fell over on "the right of return" . Doubt that will ever happen . Will never be taken with a gun or rocket though .
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Mar 27, 2012 4:26 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Israel will cease to exist as a nation and a single Palestinian State will take its place comprised of Jews, Christians, Muslims, Druze, Bahai, Zoroastrians, .... They are all the same race. Their languages are very similar. There is no reason to divide the land over religion.
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Mar 27, 2012 4:30 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
You just stirred the pot Ray,soon they are coming after you.-laugh laugh laugh
RayfromUSA: Israel will cease to exist as a nation and a single Palestinian State will take its place comprised of Jews, Christians, Muslims, Druze, Bahai, Zoroastrians, .... They are all the same race. Their languages are very similar. There is no reason to divide the land over religion.
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Mar 27, 2012 4:38 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
RayfromUSA: Israel will cease to exist as a nation and a single Palestinian State will take its place comprised of Jews, Christians, Muslims, Druze, Bahai, Zoroastrians, .... They are all the same race. Their languages are very similar. There is no reason to divide the land over religion.
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 27, 2012 4:40 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
Oh hell yea Ray , they all going to ride off into the sunset eating baked beans and jerky .laugh
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Mar 27, 2012 4:41 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
epirb: Oh hell yea Ray , they all going to ride off into the sunset eating baked beans and jerky .
and fart!rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 27, 2012 5:02 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
chris27292729: You just stirred the pot Ray,soon they are coming after you.-


Let'em come. I got my slingshot ready at hand.
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Mar 27, 2012 5:07 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Of course, it's gonna take an initial invasion to get rid of Zionism, but once that's done the Jews will be able to share the land with others as they did for centuries before the Zionists came.
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Mar 27, 2012 5:07 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
RayfromUSA: Let'em come. I got my slingshot ready at hand.
you ain't got nothing,Ray,except your crummy Conspiracies!laugh
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Mar 27, 2012 6:25 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Wally1940
Wally1940Wally1940Rocky, Queensland Australia11 Posts
r3y5a6: The author believes good relations between Palestine and Israel must be established. This will ease the hate of Muslim nations to Jewish people.

We people of various faith be it Muslim, Jews, Christians, Spiritual and other forms of faith must work hand in hand to convince or obligate Israel a partition of land to create an independent Palestine state to avoid future clashes of human race. SPREAD LOVE NOT HATRED AND STOP KILLINGS AND WARS.


My Ancestors were Jewish and they were persecuted and Jews atill are even in their Homeland. Havent you noticed that if one of them is killed, retaliation is swift and five or more of their enemy are terminated.
Just leave them be.
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Mar 27, 2012 8:35 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
RayfromUSA: Of course, it's gonna take an initial invasion to get rid of Zionism, but once that's done the Jews will be able to share the land with others as they did for centuries before the Zionists came.


And you also believe there should be an initial invasi0on to rid the region of militant Islam as well right?

As for sharing I do believe Israel accepted the precepts of UN Resolution 181 and the Palestinians did not so, it seems those who you allude do not share were more than willing to but that was refused in 1947 by the Muslims.

RayfromUSA: Israel will cease to exist as a nation and a single Palestinian State will take its place comprised of Jews, Christians, Muslims, Druze, Bahai, Zoroastrians, .... They are all the same race. Their languages are very similar. There is no reason to divide the land over religion.


According to the government of most Palestinians there sure is!

Hamas Charter

"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "



doh
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Mar 27, 2012 9:24 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
r3y5a6
r3y5a6r3y5a6Riyadh, Ar Riyad Saudi Arabia22 Threads 20 Polls 17 Posts
@drbombay "we should all try to live in harmony"

Good points there. That's the main reason i posted this poll to know at least what people's opinion on this issue.

Very sad to know that killings continues because of this disputed land territory.
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Mar 27, 2012 10:12 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
r3y5a6: The author believes good relations between Palestine and Israel must be established. This will ease the hate of Muslim nations to Jewish people.

We people of various faith be it Muslim, Jews, Christians, Spiritual and other forms of faith must work hand in hand to convince or obligate Israel a partition of land to create an independent Palestine state to avoid future clashes of human race. SPREAD LOVE NOT HATRED AND STOP KILLINGS AND WARS.


Actually Palestinians have only to obey the conditions of UN Resolution 181 with good faith and it is all theirs. Why on earth you are making this out to be something that is conditional on Israel is beyond me when they were the ones who actually adhered to the resolution and lived in peace and within their own borders until they were attacked by the Muslims in an action that was demonstrative of anything but a 'nation of peace.' doh
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Mar 28, 2012 3:44 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
its funny.people come and occupy a land then through the natives out then kill them and then we have to make a poll that whether these new people should allow the natives to have little bit of their land??????
wow, it's democracy at its best :)
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Mar 28, 2012 3:52 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
masoodtaheriy: its funny.people come and occupy a land then through the natives out then kill them and then we have to make a poll that whether these new people should allow the natives to have little bit of their land??????
wow, it's democracy at its best :)


Thats the way things worked circa first century.
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Mar 28, 2012 4:21 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts
Albertaghost: Thats the way things worked circa first century.


what about circa 21st?
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Mar 28, 2012 4:22 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts
Conrad73: and fart!



..pliteness in a seious political thread !!!!!barf
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Mar 28, 2012 4:48 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
r3y5a6: The author believes good relations between Palestine and Israel must be established. This will ease the hate of Muslim nations to Jewish people.

We people of various faith be it Muslim, Jews, Christians, Spiritual and other forms of faith must work hand in hand to convince or obligate Israel a partition of land to create an independent Palestine state to avoid future clashes of human race. SPREAD LOVE NOT HATRED AND STOP KILLINGS AND WARS.


"Allow"? That's the most funny part

rolling on the floor laughing laugh

Ironic is it that for to live in one's own home, one has to get "permission" from a powerful rogue.
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Mar 28, 2012 5:15 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
hazimd
hazimdhazimdKhobar, Eastern Province Saudi Arabia1 Posts
We Palestinian are not waiting for Israel to give us back our land that they stole 64 years ago. weather they decide to give the west bank or not, we will get our land back (our land is Palestine, all palestine not only the west bank.
your question should not be answered, it is like when I ask you: did you father come back for death?? and your father is still alive, if you say no, that means your father is dead (which is wrong) and if you say yes, then he died and came back (again wrong answer) and Israelis if they decide or not, we dont care
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Mar 28, 2012 5:29 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
maxmate1
maxmate1maxmate1Dubai, United Arab Emirates1 Threads 963 Posts
hazimd: We Palestinian are not waiting for Israel to give us back our land that they stole 64 years ago. weather they decide to give the west bank or not, we will get our land back (our land is Palestine, all palestine not only the west bank.
your question should not be answered, it is like when I ask you: did you father come back for death?? and your father is still alive, if you say no, that means your father is dead (which is wrong) and if you say yes, then he died and came back (again wrong answer) and Israelis if they decide or not, we dont care


WOW! wow thumbs up
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Mar 28, 2012 6:30 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
hazimd: We Palestinian are not waiting for Israel to give us back our land that they stole 64 years ago. weather they decide to give the west bank or not, we will get our land back (our land is Palestine, all palestine not only the west bank.
your question should not be answered, it is like when I ask you: did you father come back for death?? and your father is still alive, if you say no, that means your father is dead (which is wrong) and if you say yes, then he died and came back (again wrong answer) and Israelis if they decide or not, we dont care
said a peaceloving "Palestinian"!

Does that include Jordan as well?rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 28, 2012 6:35 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
RayfromUSA: Israel will cease to exist as a nation and a single Palestinian State will take its place comprised of Jews, Christians, Muslims, Druze, Bahai, Zoroastrians, .... They are all the same race. Their languages are very similar. There is no reason to divide the land over religion.

Are you sure? Why?

And there are no zoroastrians in that region
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Mar 28, 2012 9:59 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
cloud747: what about circa 21st?


Not the same. Agree to resolutions and treaties.
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Mar 28, 2012 10:04 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Funny,yet another "Newbie" making one post in one Thread,then posts another of these Threads!

Veerry Eenterrestink,as Arte Johnson used to say!
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Mar 28, 2012 12:01 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
hazimd: We Palestinian are not waiting for Israel to give us back our land that they stole 64 years ago.


Actually Palestinians as a nation never owned any of the land rather it was Jewish and Roman, part of a Caliphate, Ottoman and British. Only after the British ceded the land to the UN did nationhood become a possibility for your people and, for the second time - the Jews.

Subsequently the Muslims refused and the Jews accepted, then the Muslims attacked the Jews contrary to the conditions of UN Res9lution 181 and so began the war which continues to this day.

As in all wars land is taken in order to deny the use of it to the enemy to wage war with and this war is no different hence, to the uneducated what might seem as stolen land is actually denial of use to an enemy who is not at peace but rather intent on making war.

hazimd: weather they decide to give the west bank or not, we will get our land back (our land is Palestine, all palestine not only the west bank.


I see things have not changed much in Palestinian viewpoints in 64 years. Violence shall not be a stranger for generations to come it seems as UN Res0olution 181 is ignored time after time by the Muslims
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hazimd: your question should not be answered, it is like when I ask you: did you father come back for death?? and your father is still alive, if you say no, that means your father is dead (which is wrong) and if you say yes, then he died and came back (again wrong answer) and Israelis if they decide or not, we dont care


You are correct, the question is moot as Israel has already decided, it is the Palestinians who now have to decide if they wish peace or war. Judging by your post explaining Palestinians should have all the land counter to Resolution 181 from the UN which had governing authority over this area at the time your people were offered (and turned it down) nationhood for the first time ever, it seems this will continue to play out as it has.
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Mar 28, 2012 5:26 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Class5
Class5Class5Skankytown, Queensland Australia4 Threads 1,010 Posts
Conrad73: Funny,yet another "Newbie" making one post in one Thread,then posts another of these Threads!

Veerry Eenterrestink,as Arte Johnson used to say!


I'm on another forum that has the same problem, but in that case, it's shills spamming products. On this one, we have shills pushing a political agenda-it's becoming rather dull and repetitive.
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Mar 28, 2012 5:47 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
FirasLion
FirasLionFirasLionBrabant, North Brabant Netherlands2 Threads 130 Posts
r3y5a6: The author believes good relations between Palestine and Israel must be established. This will ease the hate of Muslim nations to Jewish people.

We people of various faith be it Muslim, Jews, Christians, Spiritual and other forms of faith must work hand in hand to convince or obligate Israel a partition of land to create an independent Palestine state to avoid future clashes of human race. SPREAD LOVE NOT HATRED AND STOP KILLINGS AND WARS.




What a thread !!
Hey here is no logic in it,Palestinian will get their land back and by all means and those who occupy and massacre them in 65 years have no strong ground,they will be back where they came from even later or they may stay under Palestinian flag,if they ask for forgiveness.I think this is the only solution to make peace.

Wrong Poll,lets say a tricky one to fool others,i am not going to vote thumbs down
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Mar 28, 2012 11:06 PM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
FirasLion: What a thread !!
Hey here is no logic in it,Palestinian will get their land back and by all means and those who occupy and massacre them in 65 years have no strong ground,they will be back where they came from even later or they may stay under Palestinian flag,if they ask for forgiveness.I think this is the only solution to make peace.

Wrong Poll,lets say a tricky one to fool others,i am not going to vote


One flaw with your contention. If Israel really was massacring Palestinians then certainly, with umpteen nuclear weapons, state of the art tanks, artillery, fighter aircraft and submarines could actually do the job you contend they are attempting to do.

That they have not and, the fact that the Palestinian population grows faster than most industrial nations including Israel speaks volumes as to the mistaken presumption y0ou put forth.

The above, added to the fact that the Palestinians as a people never had a land makes the contention that they "will get their land back" rather silly as they have never had a land but rather have been occupied by various empires since ancient times. Only the (Israelis had a nation and yet, many seem to forget that point even though they were willing to share it but the Palestinians were, and still are not.
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Mar 29, 2012 2:35 AM CST Should Israel to allow Palestine be an independent state?
FirasLion: What a thread !!
Hey here is no logic in it,Palestinian will get their land back and by all means and those who occupy and massacre them in 65 years have no strong ground,they will be back where they came from even later or they may stay under Palestinian flag,if they ask for forgiveness.I think this is the only solution to make peace.

Wrong Poll,lets say a tricky one to fool others,i am not going to vote
rolling on the floor laughing

My,ain't you absurd!
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