Astrology: Fact or Fiction? (127)
I've noticed that lots of women find astrology interesting or fun, even if they don't believe it offers fundamental truths. My impression is that much fewer men take it seriously. Assuming my impression is correct, does anyone have an explanation for that?
Also, I'm very curious how believers in astrology acquired this belief. Was it through a critical review of extant evidence and logical argumentation, or through other more intuitive evaluative processes?
Also, I'm very curious how believers in astrology acquired this belief. Was it through a critical review of extant evidence and logical argumentation, or through other more intuitive evaluative processes?
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Oo hello Zeus! 
Oh....
Ermm.. Ambrose? zat yooooo?
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Ambrose2007: I've noticed that lots of women find astrology interesting or fun, even if they don't believe it offers fundamental truths. My impression is that much fewer men take it seriously. Assuming my impression is correct, does anyone have an explanation for that?
Also, I'm very curious how believers in astrology acquired this belief. Was it through a critical review of extant evidence and logical argumentation, or through other more intuitive evaluative processes?
Also, I'm very curious how believers in astrology acquired this belief. Was it through a critical review of extant evidence and logical argumentation, or through other more intuitive evaluative processes?
Astrology is almost as old as dirt. Earliest assessments (to my knowledge) were not only tied to planetary influences, but also to the energy of those planets. Its logical from my investigations, though how and why they assigned specific characteristics to each planet is still a mystery to me.
Recent discoveries in regard to 'an electric universe' would seem to bare out that 'energy' influence and personal experience with well schooled astrologists have proved it viable in accuracy to me. It is no easy task, to make predictions (given the plethura of influences) and everyday newspaper horoscopes tend to ruin the image of its viability.
Why women, more than men? My opinion would be that females in general have a more 'conceptual' view of life, more greys, not so much black and white and astrology to those who don't study it, has always had that 'conceptual' aura to it... like gods and other concepts or things we can't understand
Men generally tend to be linear, blacks and whites, evidence placed in correct order. Its why they tend to want to fix a problem for women when all the woman wants is a listening ear for the most part.
dont argue with me..
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I dont know....
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blue_eyed_blonde: I dont know....
I came ermm .. following her ..
sorry hi Ambrose .. hi Al ( i wont argue ) ..
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Claayer: Oo hello Zeus!
Oh.... Ermm.. Ambrose? zat yooooo?
Oh.... Ermm.. Ambrose? zat yooooo?
I honestly hadn't seen the "Greek god" connection, Claire, but now that you've mentioned it... 
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riyablossom: I came ermm .. following her ..
sorry hi Ambrose .. hi Al ( i wont argue ) ..
sorry hi Ambrose .. hi Al ( i wont argue ) ..
hahahah...Hiiiiiiii riya!!!!
and
ambrose too
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blue_eyed_blonde: I dont know....
THanks, Blue, for your contribution!
But I'm a bit disappointed - after seeing how adept you were at reading my personal "signs" awhile back, I was expecting something slightly more definitive from you...
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Ambrose2007: I've noticed that lots of women find astrology interesting or fun, even if they don't believe it offers fundamental truths. My impression is that much fewer men take it seriously. Assuming my impression is correct, does anyone have an explanation for that?
Also, I'm very curious how believers in astrology acquired this belief. Was it through a critical review of extant evidence and logical argumentation, or through other more intuitive evaluative processes?
Also, I'm very curious how believers in astrology acquired this belief. Was it through a critical review of extant evidence and logical argumentation, or through other more intuitive evaluative processes?
I think that the astrological signs provide basic characterstics for some people. Oh course people will probably disagree and I'm not saying anything about this being an absolute....
If you look at you astrological sign and the traits or characteristics within those signs... You will find some that relate to you personally and others that do not....Its more of a general overview... not an exact science....
When I look at my astrologiacl sign, I do cary alot of the traits for that sign...
Anyway that JMO.....
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Ambrose2007: THanks, Blue, for your contribution! But I'm a bit disappointed - after seeing how adept you were at reading my personal "signs" awhile back, I was expecting something slightly more definitive from you...
ohhhhh ahmmmmmm...I dont believe in it, i missed the sign and seriousness of this thread...i kinda thought it was a "funny" sorta question.
but you look like Zeus....
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hey ms.hat...still u didn't send me the pictures of your palms....
i'm curious to read them.
i'm curious to read them.
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This evidence exists.
1) Planets effect the solar cycle in specific ways.
2) The solar cycle effects the geomagnetic field.
3) The geomagnetic field affects life on Earth in certain observed ways.
4) Specifically, many species, including man, can be influenced by particular states of the geomagnetic field.
5) The particular influences appear to correlate with the planetary positions.
6) I propose that the behavior of the fetus at the time of birth is linked to the cycles within the geomagnetic field, which in turn are influenced by the solar cycle and positions of the planets.
the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune control the direction of the convective motions within the Sun, which generate the solar magnetic field. They do so because they play the major role in moving the sun about the common center of mass of the solar system. As the solar cycle builds up to a maximum, so certain configurations of all the planets, at different stages, play a part in the disrupting the magnetic field of the sun.
iv done my homework
1) Planets effect the solar cycle in specific ways.
2) The solar cycle effects the geomagnetic field.
3) The geomagnetic field affects life on Earth in certain observed ways.
4) Specifically, many species, including man, can be influenced by particular states of the geomagnetic field.
5) The particular influences appear to correlate with the planetary positions.
6) I propose that the behavior of the fetus at the time of birth is linked to the cycles within the geomagnetic field, which in turn are influenced by the solar cycle and positions of the planets.
the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune control the direction of the convective motions within the Sun, which generate the solar magnetic field. They do so because they play the major role in moving the sun about the common center of mass of the solar system. As the solar cycle builds up to a maximum, so certain configurations of all the planets, at different stages, play a part in the disrupting the magnetic field of the sun.
iv done my homework
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Justme4uok: I think that the astrological signs provide basic characterstics for some people. Oh course people will probably disagree and I'm not saying anything about this being an absolute....If you look at you astrological sign and the traits or characteristics within those signs... You will find some that relate to you personally and others that do not....Its more of a general overview... not an exact science....
When I look at my astrologiacl sign, I do cary alot of the traits for that sign...
Anyway that JMO.....
When I look at my astrologiacl sign, I do cary alot of the traits for that sign...
Anyway that JMO.....
When I've looked at characteristics attributed to the various signs, *all* of the signs seem to list plenty of traits which I possess (and plenty that I don't, in my view)...?
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dillydally: This evidence exists.
1) Planets effect the solar cycle in specific ways.
2) The solar cycle effects the geomagnetic field.
3) The geomagnetic field affects life on Earth in certain observed ways.
4) Specifically, many species, including man, can be influenced by particular states of the geomagnetic field.
5) The particular influences appear to correlate with the planetary positions.
6) I propose that the behavior of the fetus at the time of birth is linked to the cycles within the geomagnetic field, which in turn are influenced by the solar cycle and positions of the planets.
the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune control the direction of the convective motions within the Sun, which generate the solar magnetic field. They do so because they play the major role in moving the sun about the common center of mass of the solar system. As the solar cycle builds up to a maximum, so certain configurations of all the planets, at different stages, play a part in the disrupting the magnetic field of the sun.
iv done my homework
1) Planets effect the solar cycle in specific ways.
2) The solar cycle effects the geomagnetic field.
3) The geomagnetic field affects life on Earth in certain observed ways.
4) Specifically, many species, including man, can be influenced by particular states of the geomagnetic field.
5) The particular influences appear to correlate with the planetary positions.
6) I propose that the behavior of the fetus at the time of birth is linked to the cycles within the geomagnetic field, which in turn are influenced by the solar cycle and positions of the planets.
the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune control the direction of the convective motions within the Sun, which generate the solar magnetic field. They do so because they play the major role in moving the sun about the common center of mass of the solar system. As the solar cycle builds up to a maximum, so certain configurations of all the planets, at different stages, play a part in the disrupting the magnetic field of the sun.
iv done my homework
I fail to see what any of this has to do with you perennial quest to get laid, Dilly!
Okay, thanks for that. You know, I think I would grant that we're part of existence and that many if not all aspects of existence could affect our lives, but - and you knew there was a "but," didn't you, DD? - the problem is that the geomagnetic field would be but one of vastly numerous influences on our lives, no?
How would geomagnet fields compare in influence, for example, to DNA or basic things such as intrauterine health, conditions at birth, or even nursing versus non-nursing?
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riyablossom: I came ermm .. following her ..
sorry hi Ambrose .. hi Al ( i wont argue ) ..
sorry hi Ambrose .. hi Al ( i wont argue ) ..
Hey, Riya! No one wants to argue? Come now, let's get some excitement going here!
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Ambrose2007: I fail to see what any of this has to do with you perennial quest to get laid, Dilly!
Okay, thanks for that. You know, I think I would grant that we're part of existence and that many if not all aspects of existence could affect our lives, but - and you knew there was a "but," didn't you, DD? - the problem is that the geomagnetic field would be but one of vastly numerous influences on our lives, no?
How would geomagnet fields compare in influence, for example, to DNA or basic things such as intrauterine health, conditions at birth, or even nursing versus non-nursing?
Okay, thanks for that. You know, I think I would grant that we're part of existence and that many if not all aspects of existence could affect our lives, but - and you knew there was a "but," didn't you, DD? - the problem is that the geomagnetic field would be but one of vastly numerous influences on our lives, no?
How would geomagnet fields compare in influence, for example, to DNA or basic things such as intrauterine health, conditions at birth, or even nursing versus non-nursing?
the frequencies of naturally occurring electromagnetic signals,circulating in the electrically resonant cavity bounded by the earth and the ionosphere, have governed or determined the "evolution" or development of the frequencies of operation of the principal human brain-wave signals.
some electrical field phenomena have already been linked with abnormal cell growth and a decrease in immunocompetency.these factors could be expected to lead to the appearance of"new" diseases, probably accompanied by a decline in resistance to many minor infections, an increase in conditions related to abnormal
cell development, including cancer, birth defects and infertility, and an increase in psychological disturbance problems, e.g., drug addic-tion and suicide. now can i get laid ?
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dillydally: the frequencies of naturally occurring electromagnetic signals,circulating in the electrically resonant cavity bounded by the earth and the ionosphere, have governed or determined the "evolution" or development of the frequencies of operation of the principal human brain-wave signals.
some electrical field phenomena have already been linked with abnormal cell growth and a decrease in immunocompetency.these factors could be expected to lead to the appearance of"new" diseases, probably accompanied by a decline in resistance to many minor infections, an increase in conditions related to abnormal
cell development, including cancer, birth defects and infertility, and an increase in psychological disturbance problems, e.g., drug addic-tion and suicide. now can i get laid ?
some electrical field phenomena have already been linked with abnormal cell growth and a decrease in immunocompetency.these factors could be expected to lead to the appearance of"new" diseases, probably accompanied by a decline in resistance to many minor infections, an increase in conditions related to abnormal
cell development, including cancer, birth defects and infertility, and an increase in psychological disturbance problems, e.g., drug addic-tion and suicide. now can i get laid ?
If the stars allow it, Dilly, if the stars allow it.
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Ambrose2007: When I've looked at characteristics attributed to the various signs, *all* of the signs seem to list plenty of traits which I possess (and plenty that I don't, in my view)...?
this is the problem with generalizing and relying soley on sunsigns, your sun birth sign. In fact there are what 11 other planets (dont know if pluto is still consdiered a planet) all in position at the time of birth. Include in that, the angles they all make to you and to each other and your horoscope becomes far more intricate and explains better why you have some characteristics of other signs as well, IE: your rising sign may be in taurus, giving you personality traights of tuarus. your moon may be in libra, giving you an appreciation for making love hangin from chandeleiers and a more talkative nature..
its more than just sunsign, that why your traights seem to conflict.
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Ambrose2007: If the stars allow it, Dilly, if the stars allow it.
not what i wanted to hear at all
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dillydally: not what i wanted to hear at all
It seems that getting laid may even more problematic and complex than any of us suspected (unless one is so fortunate to be born under the sign of the great "Horn Dog"...?)
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blue_eyed_blonde: ohhhhh ahmmmmmm...I dont believe in it, i missed the sign and seriousness of this thread...i kinda thought it was a "funny" sorta question.
but you look like Zeus....
but you look like Zeus....
Honey, this is deadly serious - no room for humor of any kind here (as is the case with almost all my threads)!
I was aiming merely for Dionysus, but I appreciate people recognizing my true royal godly status.
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Ambrose2007: I fail to see what any of this has to do with you perennial quest to get laid, Dilly!
Okay, thanks for that. You know, I think I would grant that we're part of existence and that many if not all aspects of existence could affect our lives, but - and you knew there was a "but," didn't you, DD? - the problem is that the geomagnetic field would be but one of vastly numerous influences on our lives, no?
How would geomagnet fields compare in influence, for example, to DNA or basic things such as intrauterine health, conditions at birth, or even nursing versus non-nursing?
Okay, thanks for that. You know, I think I would grant that we're part of existence and that many if not all aspects of existence could affect our lives, but - and you knew there was a "but," didn't you, DD? - the problem is that the geomagnetic field would be but one of vastly numerous influences on our lives, no?
How would geomagnet fields compare in influence, for example, to DNA or basic things such as intrauterine health, conditions at birth, or even nursing versus non-nursing?
and add this five doctrines of the nature for this subject
every thing happens according to these doctrines(dhamma) ..
these are called the ''fixedness of law'' regarding all things.
signifying the ''fivefold lawfulness'' or ''natural order'' that governs:
1) temperature, seasons and other physical events (uthu niyama)
2) the planet life (bija niyama)
3) karma )kamma niyama)
4)the mind (chitta niyama) e.g.: th lawful functionof consciousness in the process of cognition.
5) dhamma niyama :- certain events connected with dhamma.
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BnaturAl: Astrology is almost as old as dirt. Earliest assessments (to my knowledge) were not only tied to planetary influences, but also to the energy of those planets. Its logical from my investigations, though how and why they assigned specific characteristics to each planet is still a mystery to me.
Recent discoveries in regard to 'an electric universe' would seem to bare out that 'energy' influence and personal experience with well schooled astrologists have proved it viable in accuracy to me. It is no easy task, to make predictions (given the plethura of influences) and everyday newspaper horoscopes tend to ruin the image of its viability.
Why women, more than men? My opinion would be that females in general have a more 'conceptual' view of life, more greys, not so much black and white and astrology to those who don't study it, has always had that 'conceptual' aura to it... like gods and other concepts or things we can't understand
Men generally tend to be linear, blacks and whites, evidence placed in correct order. Its why they tend to want to fix a problem for women when all the woman wants is a listening ear for the most part.
dont argue with me..
Recent discoveries in regard to 'an electric universe' would seem to bare out that 'energy' influence and personal experience with well schooled astrologists have proved it viable in accuracy to me. It is no easy task, to make predictions (given the plethura of influences) and everyday newspaper horoscopes tend to ruin the image of its viability.
Why women, more than men? My opinion would be that females in general have a more 'conceptual' view of life, more greys, not so much black and white and astrology to those who don't study it, has always had that 'conceptual' aura to it... like gods and other concepts or things we can't understand
Men generally tend to be linear, blacks and whites, evidence placed in correct order. Its why they tend to want to fix a problem for women when all the woman wants is a listening ear for the most part.
dont argue with me..
Very well spoken & accurate.
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It's valid in a personality profile sense. Psychologists use natal charts all the time. I don't believe it has any predictive capacity, however...
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Ambrose2007: I've noticed that lots of women find astrology interesting or fun, even if they don't believe it offers fundamental truths. My impression is that much fewer men take it seriously. Assuming my impression is correct, does anyone have an explanation for that?
Also, I'm very curious how believers in astrology acquired this belief. Was it through a critical review of extant evidence and logical argumentation, or through other more intuitive evaluative processes?
Also, I'm very curious how believers in astrology acquired this belief. Was it through a critical review of extant evidence and logical argumentation, or through other more intuitive evaluative processes?
I think it's fun to read and read it for purely entertainment purposes...However...a lot of the Libra traits are quite similar to my personality....The daily...weekly forecasts....I don't find all that believable...but they're fun to read!!!!!!!!!
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dillydally: now ?
ye had your fun already, as witnessed by my ethereal self relaying corpuscle messeges to me brain ...
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god only knows..
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Galactic_bodhi: It's valid in a personality profile sense. Psychologists use natal charts all the time. I don't believe it has any predictive capacity, however...
I went to see a genuine astrologist and when before Ii sat down, she said "are you supposed to be somewhere else too?" Damed if I hadnt set up two appn'ts at the same time. Accurate. She also predicted/saw my move to Florida, the woman that I married, how long it would last as well as my son's appearance. A Little more than that as well, that I am unwilling to share here. However, an astologist who knows the art can accurately predict. Unfortuneately there many in it for the money and know little about how. It takes years to get all the information down and be able to piece it all together.
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Hugz_n_Kissez: AHHHHHHHHHHHH....But maybe I have come to rip you a new orafice....It could still come true ya know!!!!!!!!!!
Talk about a painful proof!
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Also, I'm very curious how believers in astrology acquired this belief. Was it through a critical review of extant evidence and logical argumentation, or through other more intuitive evaluative processes?