Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ...... (57)
sure that isn't Sean Penn or Danny Glover or some other US-Leftie who hasn't been recognized yet!
Uncle Hugo is full of it!
Uncle Hugo is full of it!
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Conrad73: sure that isn't Sean Penn or Danny Glover or some other US-Leftie who hasn't been recognized yet!
Uncle Hugo is full of it!
Uncle Hugo is full of it!
Nah.....could not be Sean or Danny.....they would be crying to see a
US Representative and a attroney after the first 10 minutes of a 'interview'.
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Just thinking back a ways.....there was something that happened in Iran....very similar to this. A Iranian American ...former Marine...
went back into Iran....to see his Grandmother.
He was arrested and is now sentence to a prison term for spying....
went back into Iran....to see his Grandmother.
He was arrested and is now sentence to a prison term for spying....
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ttom500: Nah.....could not be Sean or Danny.....they would be crying to see a
US Representative and a attroney after the first 10 minutes of a 'interview'.
US Representative and a attroney after the first 10 minutes of a 'interview'.
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ttom500: http://news.yahoo.com/u-seeks-information-mercenary-suspect-venezuela-174955667.html
Hugo Chavez is claiming to have captured a American merc that had entered his country illegally. After 'interviews' the hispanic man is said to be a former US Marine. When detained, he was tearing up geographical locations within the Venezuela
President Chavez is in a election year and is campaigning for re-election. In the past he warned his country of a 'American invasion'.
FARC drugs often pass thru his country. To the point that President Chavex has stopped all USA DEA activities in his country. This after the DEA had compromised high ranking Veneseulian government officials in the drug operations.
The US is requesting to speak to the man. Claiming that a US citizen rights in the foreign country might be violated. They expect the Vensuelain government to honor this request shortly.
So your opinion to this international incident?
Hugo Chavez is claiming to have captured a American merc that had entered his country illegally. After 'interviews' the hispanic man is said to be a former US Marine. When detained, he was tearing up geographical locations within the Venezuela
President Chavez is in a election year and is campaigning for re-election. In the past he warned his country of a 'American invasion'.
FARC drugs often pass thru his country. To the point that President Chavex has stopped all USA DEA activities in his country. This after the DEA had compromised high ranking Veneseulian government officials in the drug operations.
The US is requesting to speak to the man. Claiming that a US citizen rights in the foreign country might be violated. They expect the Vensuelain government to honor this request shortly.
So your opinion to this international incident?
Since when, the United States, not used, the peons, pardon their "allies" to do this kind of work?
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ITZTLACOLIUHQUI: Since when, the United States, not used, the peons, pardon their "allies" to do this kind of work?
Assuming he is a former Marine....and he got the best military training in the world. So cannot be considered a peon.
I think that the verdict is still out to this man's nationaility. So far Hugo is not releasing a name, photo, or allowing outside contact.
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ttom500: Assuming he is a former Marine....and he got the best military training in the world. So cannot be considered a peon.
I think that the verdict is still out to this man's nationaility. So far Hugo is not releasing a name, photo, or allowing outside contact.
probably grabbed some unsuspecting US-Tourist off the Street as an Election-Gimmick!I think that the verdict is still out to this man's nationaility. So far Hugo is not releasing a name, photo, or allowing outside contact.
To show the Venezuelans how hard he is on the Ball!
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Venezuela has some of the world's largest proven oil deposits as well as huge quantities of coal, iron ore, bauxite and gold.
Yet most Venezuelans live in poverty, many of them in shanty towns, some of which sprawl over the hillsides around the capital, Caracas.
Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez, says he is leading the country - which is enjoying a windfall from high oil prices - through a socialist revolution.
Yet most Venezuelans live in poverty, many of them in shanty towns, some of which sprawl over the hillsides around the capital, Caracas.
Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez, says he is leading the country - which is enjoying a windfall from high oil prices - through a socialist revolution.
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milamila1: Venezuela has some of the world's largest proven oil deposits as well as huge quantities of coal, iron ore, bauxite and gold.
Yet most Venezuelans live in poverty, many of them in shanty towns, some of which sprawl over the hillsides around the capital, Caracas.
Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez, says he is leading the country - which is enjoying a windfall from high oil prices - through a socialist revolution.
Yet most Venezuelans live in poverty, many of them in shanty towns, some of which sprawl over the hillsides around the capital, Caracas.
Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez, says he is leading the country - which is enjoying a windfall from high oil prices - through a socialist revolution.
the welt of a country belongs to the people ,has to be shared on equal parts as well as obligations
Now that would be a Socialistic ideology
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Boban1: the welt of a country belongs to the people ,has to be shared on equal parts as well as obligations
Now that would be a Socialistic ideology
Radical reform, political unrest and deep divisions have characterised the president's term in office. His supporters - known as "chavistas" - and his detractors have both staged street protests.Now that would be a Socialistic ideology
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milamila1: Radical reform, political unrest and deep divisions have characterised the president's term in office. His supporters - known as "chavistas" - and his detractors have both staged street protests.
I hope it won`t turn in to a civil-war
ttom ,sorry for hijacking your thread
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Boban1: I hope it won`t turn in to a civil-war
ttom ,sorry for hijacking your thread
Mr Chavez has also aligned himself with Russia and Iran, and has frequently expressed support for anti-Western leaders in the Middle East and elsewhere. so he likes only western carsttom ,sorry for hijacking your thread
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"And remember Mr Phelps, as always, should you or any of your I.M. Force be caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions."
I'm sure Venezuela has its version of Gitmo for visitors of that sort.
I'm sure Venezuela has its version of Gitmo for visitors of that sort.
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Chavez isn't really "aligned" with Russia or China.
But he is anti-US.
So that doesn't leave him much choice as to where to find any sort of support.
Castro was the same.
Initially he thought the US would support his revolution against the corrupt Batista regime. And it did. But when he started to seize mafia possessions he became an enemy of the US.
The same was true for Ho Chi Minh.
He patterned his revolution's constitution on that of the US.
And he thought that the US would help Vietnam throw off foreign colonialism. But he was wrong. Instead, the US tried to take over where the French left off.
when newly independent countries see that the West won't help them, they turn to the Communists in order to survive.
But he is anti-US.
So that doesn't leave him much choice as to where to find any sort of support.
Castro was the same.
Initially he thought the US would support his revolution against the corrupt Batista regime. And it did. But when he started to seize mafia possessions he became an enemy of the US.
The same was true for Ho Chi Minh.
He patterned his revolution's constitution on that of the US.
And he thought that the US would help Vietnam throw off foreign colonialism. But he was wrong. Instead, the US tried to take over where the French left off.
when newly independent countries see that the West won't help them, they turn to the Communists in order to survive.
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ttom500: Assuming he is a former Marine....and he got the best military training in the world. So cannot be considered a peon.
I think that the verdict is still out to this man's nationaility. So far Hugo is not releasing a name, photo, or allowing outside contact.
I think that the verdict is still out to this man's nationaility. So far Hugo is not releasing a name, photo, or allowing outside contact.
Do not be naive or at least do not pretend to ignore the politics that follow all U.S. agencies to use their local contacts, to do all their work in counterintelligence.
The DEA operations in Central and South America, are the clearest example, but maybe your memory, even remember, the operations of the eighties in Central America.
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Boban1: I hope it won`t turn in to a civil-war
ttom ,sorry for hijacking your thread
ttom ,sorry for hijacking your thread
No problem Boban....the single Marine was likely a gringo/hispanic revolutionary that was going to ignite the fires of democratic reform in the country......
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ITZTLACOLIUHQUI: Do not be naive or at least do not pretend to ignore the politics that follow all U.S. agencies to use their local contacts, to do all their work in counterintelligence.
The DEA operations in Central and South America, are the clearest example, but maybe your memory, even remember, the operations of the eighties in Central America.
The DEA operations in Central and South America, are the clearest example, but maybe your memory, even remember, the operations of the eighties in Central America.
So with out seeing any evidence to this man's identity, his nationality, his country of origin.....you have take every word that Chavez says on the issues as gospel truth?
Chavez has help to run FARC run drug operation.....are we to take every drug operation in the world as being connected to Chavez/FARC?
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milamila1: Mr Chavez has also aligned himself with Russia and Iran, and has frequently expressed support for anti-Western leaders in the Middle East and elsewhere. so he likes only western cars
Maybe we can we trade him a Corvette.....a used C-4 model which far to small for him to get into......to get our Marine/DEA agent out.
Ray, he has got both Russian and Iranian military ships pulling into his ports. He buys Russian military goods. He goes to Iran to talk with Amhmenajada on OPEC issues. I would say he is fairly closely aligned with Russian and Iran. He wanted to dump the US dollar as the world currency.....
Agreed he has not sent troops to Syria. But there is always tomorrow.
Now that he has been "invaded" by the United States....he is free to send his forces anyplace in the world to face the gringos and their proxies.....
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RayfromUSA: Oh I'm sure there is a whole herd of others.
But they aren't about to blow their own cover to save one guy.
He's on his own now.
If he's just a peon he won't know much beyond his own little circle of contacts.
But the ones he knows will all be scrambling for cover.
so,Hugo isn't capable of pulling off a little stunt by himself?But they aren't about to blow their own cover to save one guy.
He's on his own now.
If he's just a peon he won't know much beyond his own little circle of contacts.
But the ones he knows will all be scrambling for cover.
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milamila1: Venezuela has some of the world's largest proven oil deposits as well as huge quantities of coal, iron ore, bauxite and gold.
Yet most Venezuelans live in poverty, many of them in shanty towns, some of which sprawl over the hillsides around the capital, Caracas.
Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez, says he is leading the country - which is enjoying a windfall from high oil prices - through a socialist revolution.
Yet most Venezuelans live in poverty, many of them in shanty towns, some of which sprawl over the hillsides around the capital, Caracas.
Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez, says he is leading the country - which is enjoying a windfall from high oil prices - through a socialist revolution.
We know all about it...Obama's doing the same for us.
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Conrad73: so,Hugo isn't capable of pulling off a little stunt by himself?
Which is most probable?
Chavez creating the rumor of a CIA spy?
or
A real CIA spy getting caught?
Which is most probable in your opinion?
How many similar "stunts" has Chavez pulled off in the past?
How many similar "stunts" has the CIA pulled off in the past?
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ttom500: Maybe we can we trade him a Corvette.....a used C-4 model which far to small for him to get into......to get our Marine/DEA agent out.
Ray, he has got both Russian and Iranian military ships pulling into his ports. He buys Russian military goods. He goes to Iran to talk with Amhmenajada on OPEC issues. I would say he is fairly closely aligned with Russian and Iran. He wanted to dump the US dollar as the world currency.....
Agreed he has not sent troops to Syria. But there is always tomorrow.
Now that he has been "invaded" by the United States....he is free to send his forces anyplace in the world to face the gringos and their proxies.....
Ray, he has got both Russian and Iranian military ships pulling into his ports. He buys Russian military goods. He goes to Iran to talk with Amhmenajada on OPEC issues. I would say he is fairly closely aligned with Russian and Iran. He wanted to dump the US dollar as the world currency.....
Agreed he has not sent troops to Syria. But there is always tomorrow.
Now that he has been "invaded" by the United States....he is free to send his forces anyplace in the world to face the gringos and their proxies.....
He already was free to send forces anyplace in the world. But there's not much danger of that. The US has all sorts of mercenary death squads in the area. Chavez needs all the troops he has just to protect his own regime.
Don't forget that the CIA was behind the 2002 attempted military coup.
In fact it is a textbook example of how the US engineers regime changes. Just as they are trying to do in Syria now.
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This seems as an interesting video...
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ttom500: http://news.yahoo.com/u-seeks-information-mercenary-suspect-venezuela-174955667.html
Hugo Chavez is claiming to have captured a American merc that had entered his country illegally. After 'interviews' the hispanic man is said to be a former US Marine. When detained, he was tearing up geographical locations within the Venezuela
President Chavez is in a election year and is campaigning for re-election. In the past he warned his country of a 'American invasion'.
FARC drugs often pass thru his country. To the point that President Chavex has stopped all USA DEA activities in his country. This after the DEA had compromised high ranking Veneseulian government officials in the drug operations.
The US is requesting to speak to the man. Claiming that a US citizen rights in the foreign country might be violated. They expect the Vensuelain government to honor this request shortly.
So your opinion to this international incident?
Hugo Chavez is claiming to have captured a American merc that had entered his country illegally. After 'interviews' the hispanic man is said to be a former US Marine. When detained, he was tearing up geographical locations within the Venezuela
President Chavez is in a election year and is campaigning for re-election. In the past he warned his country of a 'American invasion'.
FARC drugs often pass thru his country. To the point that President Chavex has stopped all USA DEA activities in his country. This after the DEA had compromised high ranking Veneseulian government officials in the drug operations.
The US is requesting to speak to the man. Claiming that a US citizen rights in the foreign country might be violated. They expect the Vensuelain government to honor this request shortly.
So your opinion to this international incident?
William Alexander Morgan had no such right. He was put against the wall and shot to pieces; 'merc' or not.
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ttom500: http://news.yahoo.com/u-seeks-information-mercenary-suspect-venezuela-174955667.html
Hugo Chavez is claiming to have captured a American merc that had entered his country illegally. After 'interviews' the hispanic man is said to be a former US Marine. When detained, he was tearing up geographical locations within the Venezuela
President Chavez is in a election year and is campaigning for re-election. In the past he warned his country of a 'American invasion'.
FARC drugs often pass thru his country. To the point that President Chavex has stopped all USA DEA activities in his country. This after the DEA had compromised high ranking Veneseulian government officials in the drug operations.
The US is requesting to speak to the man. Claiming that a US citizen rights in the foreign country might be violated. They expect the Vensuelain government to honor this request shortly.
So your opinion to this international incident?
Hugo Chavez is claiming to have captured a American merc that had entered his country illegally. After 'interviews' the hispanic man is said to be a former US Marine. When detained, he was tearing up geographical locations within the Venezuela
President Chavez is in a election year and is campaigning for re-election. In the past he warned his country of a 'American invasion'.
FARC drugs often pass thru his country. To the point that President Chavex has stopped all USA DEA activities in his country. This after the DEA had compromised high ranking Veneseulian government officials in the drug operations.
The US is requesting to speak to the man. Claiming that a US citizen rights in the foreign country might be violated. They expect the Vensuelain government to honor this request shortly.
So your opinion to this international incident?
I have not idea why Hugo chavez did it.
Chavez probabilities of winning elections again are high
Chavez winning over his cancer is not that high.
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RayfromUSA: Which is most probable?
Chavez creating the rumor of a CIA spy?
or
A real CIA spy getting caught?
Which is most probable in your opinion?
How many similar "stunts" has Chavez pulled off in the past?
How many similar "stunts" has the CIA pulled off in the past?
Chavez creating the rumor of a CIA spy?
or
A real CIA spy getting caught?
Which is most probable in your opinion?
How many similar "stunts" has Chavez pulled off in the past?
How many similar "stunts" has the CIA pulled off in the past?
I saw a second report on this incident. OK you tell if this sound like CIA.
The guy was arrested at a border crossing as he rode a bus into Venezuela. He has a US Passport that he shows. But when the border security pulls him from the bus......he starts shreading this notebook with geographical locations in it. Then they get really interested in him.
So?
1) Chavez has the guy's name....or at least a fake passport name to give.
2) Chavez says his passport has stamps to Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Now if Chavez is making the connection that he is US military from this information, he is wrong. When US deploys soldier abroad, they don't often carry passports. US contractors and US Gov't employees will carry them.....but not soldiers and marines.
3) Chavez says that they scotched taped the shreaded notebook back together. But he does not tell us were any of the locations are. Are we talking about beach north of Carcus here? Or Chavez secret Russian made ICBM silos?
4) Chaves says that the guy is not talking. This might be the smartest thing the guy has done so far. But if he was US military trained, he would want his name getting into the public record. So the 7th Calvary can come.
5) All Chavez has to do...is show the US this US passport. It then get verified and we at least know whom is being held and charged. But that does not seem to be happening.
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ttom500: I saw a second report on this incident. OK you tell if this sound like CIA.
The guy was arrested at a border crossing as he rode a bus into Venezuela. He has a US Passport that he shows. But when the border security pulls him from the bus......he starts shredding this notebook with geographical locations in it. Then they get really interested in him.
So?
1) Chavez has the guy's name....or at least a fake passport name to give.
2) Chavez says his passport has stamps to Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Now if Chavez is making the connection that he is US military from this information, he is wrong. When US deploys soldier abroad, they don't often carry passports. US contractors and US Gov't employees will carry them.....but not soldiers and marines.
3) Chavez says that they scotched taped the shreaded notebook back together. But he does not tell us were any of the locations are. Are we talking about beach north of Carcus here? Or Chavez secret Russian made ICBM silos?
4) Chaves says that the guy is not talking. This might be the smartest thing the guy has done so far. But if he was US military trained, he would want his name getting into the public record. So the 7th Calvary can come.
5) All Chavez has to do...is show the US this US passport. It then get verified and we at least know whom is being held and charged. But that does not seem to be happening.
or simply an Election-Stunt!The guy was arrested at a border crossing as he rode a bus into Venezuela. He has a US Passport that he shows. But when the border security pulls him from the bus......he starts shredding this notebook with geographical locations in it. Then they get really interested in him.
So?
1) Chavez has the guy's name....or at least a fake passport name to give.
2) Chavez says his passport has stamps to Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Now if Chavez is making the connection that he is US military from this information, he is wrong. When US deploys soldier abroad, they don't often carry passports. US contractors and US Gov't employees will carry them.....but not soldiers and marines.
3) Chavez says that they scotched taped the shreaded notebook back together. But he does not tell us were any of the locations are. Are we talking about beach north of Carcus here? Or Chavez secret Russian made ICBM silos?
4) Chaves says that the guy is not talking. This might be the smartest thing the guy has done so far. But if he was US military trained, he would want his name getting into the public record. So the 7th Calvary can come.
5) All Chavez has to do...is show the US this US passport. It then get verified and we at least know whom is being held and charged. But that does not seem to be happening.
Might be Sean Penn's Halfbrother trying to visit him!
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Conrad73: or simply an Election-Stunt!
Might be Sean Penn's Halfbrother trying to visit him!
Might be Sean Penn's Halfbrother trying to visit him!
I just know this is going to develop into a international "crisis" that only Chavez and Obama can handle with face to face diplomacy (e.g. media time for both and photos opt for both) looking Presidential.
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ttom500: I just know this is going to develop into a international "crisis" that only Chavez and Obama can handle with face to face diplomacy (e.g. media time for both and photos opt for both) looking Presidential.
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Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......(Vote Below)
Hugo Chavez is claiming to have captured a American merc that had entered his country illegally. After 'interviews' the hispanic man is said to be a former US Marine. When detained, he was tearing up geographical locations within the Venezuela
President Chavez is in a election year and is campaigning for re-election. In the past he warned his country of a 'American invasion'.
FARC drugs often pass thru his country. To the point that President Chavex has stopped all USA DEA activities in his country. This after the DEA had compromised high ranking Veneseulian government officials in the drug operations.
The US is requesting to speak to the man. Claiming that a US citizen rights in the foreign country might be violated. They expect the Vensuelain government to honor this request shortly.
So your opinion to this international incident?