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Aug 11, 2012 6:11 AM CSTHugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida, USA39 Threads 7 Polls 16,471 Posts

Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......(Vote Below)

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A One Man....Marine.... Invasion of Venezuela
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23%
A CIA Assignation Plot of Hugo
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19%
A Amercian Tourist that got lost in jungle
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6%
Election time in Venseula
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19%
A American Secret Service Agent that was fired
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3%
Drug related,He would not mule the FARC Drugs Back
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0%
President Obama is returning Chavez's book
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6%
Another DEA Agent that was in Venezuela
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0%
Other
4
13%
Other
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10%
Total Votes
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Hugo Chavez is claiming to have captured a American merc that had entered his country illegally. After 'interviews' the hispanic man is said to be a former US Marine. When detained, he was tearing up geographical locations within the Venezuela

President Chavez is in a election year and is campaigning for re-election. In the past he warned his country of a 'American invasion'.

FARC drugs often pass thru his country. To the point that President Chavex has stopped all USA DEA activities in his country. This after the DEA had compromised high ranking Veneseulian government officials in the drug operations.

The US is requesting to speak to the man. Claiming that a US citizen rights in the foreign country might be violated. They expect the Vensuelain government to honor this request shortly.

So your opinion to this international incident?
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Aug 11, 2012 6:19 AM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
sure that isn't Sean Penn or Danny Glover or some other US-Leftie who hasn't been recognized yet!
Uncle Hugo is full of it!laugh
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Aug 11, 2012 7:11 AM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA39 Threads 7 Polls 16,471 Posts
Conrad73: sure that isn't Sean Penn or Danny Glover or some other US-Leftie who hasn't been recognized yet!
Uncle Hugo is full of it!


Nah.....could not be Sean or Danny.....they would be crying to see a
US Representative and a attroney after the first 10 minutes of a 'interview'.
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Aug 11, 2012 7:14 AM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA39 Threads 7 Polls 16,471 Posts
Just thinking back a ways.....there was something that happened in Iran....very similar to this. A Iranian American ...former Marine...
went back into Iran....to see his Grandmother.

He was arrested and is now sentence to a prison term for spying....
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Aug 11, 2012 7:19 AM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
ttom500: Nah.....could not be Sean or Danny.....they would be crying to see a
US Representative and a attroney after the first 10 minutes of a 'interview'.
laugh
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Aug 11, 2012 7:29 AM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
ITZTLACOLIUHQUI
ITZTLACOLIUHQUIITZTLACOLIUHQUITepectli Monamictlan, Mictlan, Mexico State Mexico1 Threads 69 Posts
ttom500: http://news.yahoo.com/u-seeks-information-mercenary-suspect-venezuela-174955667.html

Hugo Chavez is claiming to have captured a American merc that had entered his country illegally. After 'interviews' the hispanic man is said to be a former US Marine. When detained, he was tearing up geographical locations within the Venezuela

President Chavez is in a election year and is campaigning for re-election. In the past he warned his country of a 'American invasion'.

FARC drugs often pass thru his country. To the point that President Chavex has stopped all USA DEA activities in his country. This after the DEA had compromised high ranking Veneseulian government officials in the drug operations.

The US is requesting to speak to the man. Claiming that a US citizen rights in the foreign country might be violated. They expect the Vensuelain government to honor this request shortly.

So your opinion to this international incident?


Since when, the United States, not used, the peons, pardon their "allies" to do this kind of work?
rolling on the floor laughing roll eyes rolling on the floor laughing
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Aug 11, 2012 7:32 AM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
ITZTLACOLIUHQUI: Since when, the United States, not used, the peons, pardon their "allies" to do this kind of work?
yep,send in a lone Horse's a** without Backup or anything?rolling on the floor laughing doh
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Aug 11, 2012 7:42 AM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA39 Threads 7 Polls 16,471 Posts
ITZTLACOLIUHQUI: Since when, the United States, not used, the peons, pardon their "allies" to do this kind of work?


Assuming he is a former Marine....and he got the best military training in the world. So cannot be considered a peon.

I think that the verdict is still out to this man's nationaility. So far Hugo is not releasing a name, photo, or allowing outside contact.
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Aug 11, 2012 10:40 AM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
ttom500: Assuming he is a former Marine....and he got the best military training in the world. So cannot be considered a peon.

I think that the verdict is still out to this man's nationaility. So far Hugo is not releasing a name, photo, or allowing outside contact.
probably grabbed some unsuspecting US-Tourist off the Street as an Election-Gimmick!
To show the Venezuelans how hard he is on the Ball!grin
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Aug 11, 2012 10:44 AM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
milamila1
milamila1milamila1reading, Berkshire, England UK1 Threads 33 Posts
Venezuela has some of the world's largest proven oil deposits as well as huge quantities of coal, iron ore, bauxite and gold.

Yet most Venezuelans live in poverty, many of them in shanty towns, some of which sprawl over the hillsides around the capital, Caracas.

Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez, says he is leading the country - which is enjoying a windfall from high oil prices - through a socialist revolution.
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Aug 11, 2012 11:08 AM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia207 Threads 7 Polls 29,868 Posts
milamila1: Venezuela has some of the world's largest proven oil deposits as well as huge quantities of coal, iron ore, bauxite and gold.

Yet most Venezuelans live in poverty, many of them in shanty towns, some of which sprawl over the hillsides around the capital, Caracas.

Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez, says he is leading the country - which is enjoying a windfall from high oil prices - through a socialist revolution.

the welt of a country belongs to the people ,has to be shared on equal parts as well as obligations
Now that would be a Socialistic ideology
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Aug 11, 2012 11:11 AM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
milamila1
milamila1milamila1reading, Berkshire, England UK1 Threads 33 Posts
Boban1: the welt of a country belongs to the people ,has to be shared on equal parts as well as obligations
Now that would be a Socialistic ideology
Radical reform, political unrest and deep divisions have characterised the president's term in office. His supporters - known as "chavistas" - and his detractors have both staged street protests.
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Aug 11, 2012 11:18 AM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia207 Threads 7 Polls 29,868 Posts
milamila1: Radical reform, political unrest and deep divisions have characterised the president's term in office. His supporters - known as "chavistas" - and his detractors have both staged street protests.

I hope it won`t turn in to a civil-war

ttom ,sorry for hijacking your thread
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Aug 11, 2012 11:23 AM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
milamila1
milamila1milamila1reading, Berkshire, England UK1 Threads 33 Posts
Boban1: I hope it won`t turn in to a civil-war

ttom ,sorry for hijacking your thread
Mr Chavez has also aligned himself with Russia and Iran, and has frequently expressed support for anti-Western leaders in the Middle East and elsewhere. so he likes only western cars
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Aug 11, 2012 12:32 PM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France113 Threads 36 Polls 9,933 Posts
"And remember Mr Phelps, as always, should you or any of your I.M. Force be caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions."



I'm sure Venezuela has its version of Gitmo for visitors of that sort.
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Aug 11, 2012 12:44 PM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France113 Threads 36 Polls 9,933 Posts
Conrad73: yep,send in a lone Horse's a** without Backup or anything?


Oh I'm sure there is a whole herd of others.
But they aren't about to blow their own cover to save one guy.
He's on his own now.

If he's just a peon he won't know much beyond his own little circle of contacts.

But the ones he knows will all be scrambling for cover.
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Aug 11, 2012 12:56 PM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France113 Threads 36 Polls 9,933 Posts
Chavez isn't really "aligned" with Russia or China.
But he is anti-US.
So that doesn't leave him much choice as to where to find any sort of support.

Castro was the same.
Initially he thought the US would support his revolution against the corrupt Batista regime. And it did. But when he started to seize mafia possessions he became an enemy of the US.

The same was true for Ho Chi Minh.
He patterned his revolution's constitution on that of the US.
And he thought that the US would help Vietnam throw off foreign colonialism. But he was wrong. Instead, the US tried to take over where the French left off.

when newly independent countries see that the West won't help them, they turn to the Communists in order to survive.
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Aug 11, 2012 1:12 PM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
ITZTLACOLIUHQUI
ITZTLACOLIUHQUIITZTLACOLIUHQUITepectli Monamictlan, Mictlan, Mexico State Mexico1 Threads 69 Posts
ttom500: Assuming he is a former Marine....and he got the best military training in the world. So cannot be considered a peon.

I think that the verdict is still out to this man's nationaility. So far Hugo is not releasing a name, photo, or allowing outside contact.


Do not be naive or at least do not pretend to ignore the politics that follow all U.S. agencies to use their local contacts, to do all their work in counterintelligence.

The DEA operations in Central and South America, are the clearest example, but maybe your memory, even remember, the operations of the eighties in Central America. handshake
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Aug 11, 2012 2:56 PM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA39 Threads 7 Polls 16,471 Posts
Boban1: I hope it won`t turn in to a civil-war

ttom ,sorry for hijacking your thread


No problem Boban....the single Marine was likely a gringo/hispanic revolutionary that was going to ignite the fires of democratic reform in the country......grin
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Aug 11, 2012 3:00 PM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA39 Threads 7 Polls 16,471 Posts
ITZTLACOLIUHQUI: Do not be naive or at least do not pretend to ignore the politics that follow all U.S. agencies to use their local contacts, to do all their work in counterintelligence.

The DEA operations in Central and South America, are the clearest example, but maybe your memory, even remember, the operations of the eighties in Central America.


So with out seeing any evidence to this man's identity, his nationality, his country of origin.....you have take every word that Chavez says on the issues as gospel truth?

Chavez has help to run FARC run drug operation.....are we to take every drug operation in the world as being connected to Chavez/FARC?
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Aug 11, 2012 3:08 PM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA39 Threads 7 Polls 16,471 Posts
milamila1: Mr Chavez has also aligned himself with Russia and Iran, and has frequently expressed support for anti-Western leaders in the Middle East and elsewhere. so he likes only western cars


Maybe we can we trade him a Corvette.....a used C-4 model which far to small for him to get into......to get our Marine/DEA agent out.

Ray, he has got both Russian and Iranian military ships pulling into his ports. He buys Russian military goods. He goes to Iran to talk with Amhmenajada on OPEC issues. I would say he is fairly closely aligned with Russian and Iran. He wanted to dump the US dollar as the world currency.....

Agreed he has not sent troops to Syria. But there is always tomorrow.

Now that he has been "invaded" by the United States....he is free to send his forces anyplace in the world to face the gringos and their proxies.....
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Aug 11, 2012 3:19 PM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
RayfromUSA: Oh I'm sure there is a whole herd of others.
But they aren't about to blow their own cover to save one guy.
He's on his own now.

If he's just a peon he won't know much beyond his own little circle of contacts.

But the ones he knows will all be scrambling for cover.
so,Hugo isn't capable of pulling off a little stunt by himself?laugh
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Aug 11, 2012 3:24 PM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
milamila1: Venezuela has some of the world's largest proven oil deposits as well as huge quantities of coal, iron ore, bauxite and gold.

Yet most Venezuelans live in poverty, many of them in shanty towns, some of which sprawl over the hillsides around the capital, Caracas.

Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez, says he is leading the country - which is enjoying a windfall from high oil prices - through a socialist revolution.


We know all about it...Obama's doing the same for us. rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Aug 11, 2012 3:44 PM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France113 Threads 36 Polls 9,933 Posts
Conrad73: so,Hugo isn't capable of pulling off a little stunt by himself?


Which is most probable?
Chavez creating the rumor of a CIA spy?
or
A real CIA spy getting caught?

Which is most probable in your opinion?

How many similar "stunts" has Chavez pulled off in the past?
How many similar "stunts" has the CIA pulled off in the past?
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Aug 11, 2012 3:46 PM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France113 Threads 36 Polls 9,933 Posts
FreddyFudpucker: We know all about it...Obama's doing the same for us.


Exactly!!!!

Give that man a Cuban cigar.
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Aug 11, 2012 3:58 PM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France113 Threads 36 Polls 9,933 Posts
ttom500: Maybe we can we trade him a Corvette.....a used C-4 model which far to small for him to get into......to get our Marine/DEA agent out.

Ray, he has got both Russian and Iranian military ships pulling into his ports. He buys Russian military goods. He goes to Iran to talk with Amhmenajada on OPEC issues. I would say he is fairly closely aligned with Russian and Iran. He wanted to dump the US dollar as the world currency.....

Agreed he has not sent troops to Syria. But there is always tomorrow.

Now that he has been "invaded" by the United States....he is free to send his forces anyplace in the world to face the gringos and their proxies.....


He already was free to send forces anyplace in the world. But there's not much danger of that. The US has all sorts of mercenary death squads in the area. Chavez needs all the troops he has just to protect his own regime.

Don't forget that the CIA was behind the 2002 attempted military coup.
In fact it is a textbook example of how the US engineers regime changes. Just as they are trying to do in Syria now.

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Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia207 Threads 7 Polls 29,868 Posts
This seems as an interesting video...

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Aug 11, 2012 10:36 PM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina106 Threads 6,639 Posts
ttom500: http://news.yahoo.com/u-seeks-information-mercenary-suspect-venezuela-174955667.html

Hugo Chavez is claiming to have captured a American merc that had entered his country illegally. After 'interviews' the hispanic man is said to be a former US Marine. When detained, he was tearing up geographical locations within the Venezuela

President Chavez is in a election year and is campaigning for re-election. In the past he warned his country of a 'American invasion'.

FARC drugs often pass thru his country. To the point that President Chavex has stopped all USA DEA activities in his country. This after the DEA had compromised high ranking Veneseulian government officials in the drug operations.

The US is requesting to speak to the man. Claiming that a US citizen rights in the foreign country might be violated. They expect the Vensuelain government to honor this request shortly.

So your opinion to this international incident?



William Alexander Morgan had no such right. He was put against the wall and shot to pieces; 'merc' or not.wine
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lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico184 Threads 24 Polls 22,303 Posts
ttom500: http://news.yahoo.com/u-seeks-information-mercenary-suspect-venezuela-174955667.html

Hugo Chavez is claiming to have captured a American merc that had entered his country illegally. After 'interviews' the hispanic man is said to be a former US Marine. When detained, he was tearing up geographical locations within the Venezuela

President Chavez is in a election year and is campaigning for re-election. In the past he warned his country of a 'American invasion'.

FARC drugs often pass thru his country. To the point that President Chavex has stopped all USA DEA activities in his country. This after the DEA had compromised high ranking Veneseulian government officials in the drug operations.

The US is requesting to speak to the man. Claiming that a US citizen rights in the foreign country might be violated. They expect the Vensuelain government to honor this request shortly.

So your opinion to this international incident?



confused

I have not idea why Hugo chavez did it.


Chavez probabilities of winning elections again are high

Chavez winning over his cancer is not that high.




uncertain
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Aug 12, 2012 5:57 AM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA39 Threads 7 Polls 16,471 Posts
RayfromUSA: Which is most probable?
Chavez creating the rumor of a CIA spy?
or
A real CIA spy getting caught?

Which is most probable in your opinion?

How many similar "stunts" has Chavez pulled off in the past?
How many similar "stunts" has the CIA pulled off in the past?


I saw a second report on this incident. OK you tell if this sound like CIA.

The guy was arrested at a border crossing as he rode a bus into Venezuela. He has a US Passport that he shows. But when the border security pulls him from the bus......he starts shreading this notebook with geographical locations in it. Then they get really interested in him.

So?

1) Chavez has the guy's name....or at least a fake passport name to give.

2) Chavez says his passport has stamps to Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Now if Chavez is making the connection that he is US military from this information, he is wrong. When US deploys soldier abroad, they don't often carry passports. US contractors and US Gov't employees will carry them.....but not soldiers and marines.

3) Chavez says that they scotched taped the shreaded notebook back together. But he does not tell us were any of the locations are. Are we talking about beach north of Carcus here? Or Chavez secret Russian made ICBM silos?

4) Chaves says that the guy is not talking. This might be the smartest thing the guy has done so far. But if he was US military trained, he would want his name getting into the public record. So the 7th Calvary can come.

5) All Chavez has to do...is show the US this US passport. It then get verified and we at least know whom is being held and charged. But that does not seem to be happening.
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Aug 12, 2012 6:08 AM CST Hugo Chavez Captures a American Merc.....it is ......
ttom500: I saw a second report on this incident. OK you tell if this sound like CIA.

The guy was arrested at a border crossing as he rode a bus into Venezuela. He has a US Passport that he shows. But when the border security pulls him from the bus......he starts shredding this notebook with geographical locations in it. Then they get really interested in him.

So?

1) Chavez has the guy's name....or at least a fake passport name to give.

2) Chavez says his passport has stamps to Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Now if Chavez is making the connection that he is US military from this information, he is wrong. When US deploys soldier abroad, they don't often carry passports. US contractors and US Gov't employees will carry them.....but not soldiers and marines.

3) Chavez says that they scotched taped the shreaded notebook back together. But he does not tell us were any of the locations are. Are we talking about beach north of Carcus here? Or Chavez secret Russian made ICBM silos?

4) Chaves says that the guy is not talking. This might be the smartest thing the guy has done so far. But if he was US military trained, he would want his name getting into the public record. So the 7th Calvary can come.

5) All Chavez has to do...is show the US this US passport. It then get verified and we at least know whom is being held and charged. But that does not seem to be happening.
or simply an Election-Stunt!
Might be Sean Penn's Halfbrother trying to visit him!laugh
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