What do you think about e-learning? (27)
No need to move for learning new things!
It requires self discipline.
You don’t get “meet” other students in person.
It requires self discipline.
You don’t get “meet” other students in person.
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i think there are different types of intelligences, and because of this, different modalities work for different students.
for some...e-learning is great.
but for others, not so good.
as well...there is a lot of social development that takes place during the interaction with peers which can be left out if e-learning is taking place alone in a cubicle somewhere...
there is a push now to replace teachers with online learning.
i guess time will tell if this is a good thing or not.
i have taken a few e-courses myself, and i prefer a hands on in the studio approach to things. however, for an english course i took a few years back..online was just fine as the course required a lot of reading and written regurgitation without benefit of discourse or discussion.
for some...e-learning is great.
but for others, not so good.
as well...there is a lot of social development that takes place during the interaction with peers which can be left out if e-learning is taking place alone in a cubicle somewhere...
there is a push now to replace teachers with online learning.
i guess time will tell if this is a good thing or not.
i have taken a few e-courses myself, and i prefer a hands on in the studio approach to things. however, for an english course i took a few years back..online was just fine as the course required a lot of reading and written regurgitation without benefit of discourse or discussion.
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Margo19991: Do you think it is really useful or worth nothing?
I've seen e-learning implemented in several school districts in various counties in Florida. I'm talking about high school level and testing is even done outside of a brick and mortar class room; usually at home. I think the kids spend more time on-line googling where to find the answers to the tests used instead of actually trying to learn something. it's a joke....
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jono7: i think there are different types of intelligences, and because of this, different modalities work for different students.
for some...e-learning is great.
but for others, not so good.
as well...there is a lot of social development that takes place during the interaction with peers which can be left out if e-learning is taking place alone in a cubicle somewhere...
there is a push now to replace teachers with online learning.
i guess time will tell if this is a good thing or not.
i have taken a few e-courses myself, and i prefer a hands on in the studio approach to things. however, for an english course i took a few years back..online was just fine as the course required a lot of reading and written regurgitation without benefit of discourse or discussion.
for some...e-learning is great.
but for others, not so good.
as well...there is a lot of social development that takes place during the interaction with peers which can be left out if e-learning is taking place alone in a cubicle somewhere...
there is a push now to replace teachers with online learning.
i guess time will tell if this is a good thing or not.
i have taken a few e-courses myself, and i prefer a hands on in the studio approach to things. however, for an english course i took a few years back..online was just fine as the course required a lot of reading and written regurgitation without benefit of discourse or discussion.
Jono must work for the government, because only the government would use big words like "different modalities", "interaction with peers", etc. We students better listen up, because Professor Jono is in the classroom.
It seems to me that billions of dollars could be saved by using e-learnig with all school kids. No expensive school buildings, no school buses. Teachers wouldn't lose their jobs because somebody has to do the e-teaching. The only expense would be a computer for each student, the teacher salaries, and the course materials. How it would work out in practice is a whole 'nother ballgame.
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As a student taking online courses, I know that the process has its advantages and disadvantages. For someone who is a bit socially awkward, it works out well since there is a buffer between the student and their classmates, teachers, and advisors. It is also highly efficient for those with changing schedules and family obligations. With online learning, there is no strict schedule, no obligation to leave your family to get to classes.
However, if you lack self discipline, it can be a bad choice. Because you set your own schedule to meet your due dates, it can be very difficult for those who are not self motivated. Even though I have the drive and ambition to earn my degrees, I lose focus at times, and find it hard to get back into things. I just keep reminding myself that I can't do what I want to do with my life if I don't get my focus back.
On the whole, I'd say it's not for everyone. But there are those who would greatly benefit from the structure of online learning. It really depends on what you want to learn, and what you are able to handle.
However, if you lack self discipline, it can be a bad choice. Because you set your own schedule to meet your due dates, it can be very difficult for those who are not self motivated. Even though I have the drive and ambition to earn my degrees, I lose focus at times, and find it hard to get back into things. I just keep reminding myself that I can't do what I want to do with my life if I don't get my focus back.
On the whole, I'd say it's not for everyone. But there are those who would greatly benefit from the structure of online learning. It really depends on what you want to learn, and what you are able to handle.
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HuggerMan4U: Jono must work for the government, because only the government would use big words like "different modalities", "interaction with peers", etc. We students better listen up, because Professor Jono is in the classroom.
It seems to me that billions of dollars could be saved by using e-learnig with all school kids. No expensive school buildings, no school buses. Teachers wouldn't lose their jobs because somebody has to do the e-teaching. The only expense would be a computer for each student, the teacher salaries, and the course materials. How it would work out in practice is a whole 'nother ballgame.
It seems to me that billions of dollars could be saved by using e-learnig with all school kids. No expensive school buildings, no school buses. Teachers wouldn't lose their jobs because somebody has to do the e-teaching. The only expense would be a computer for each student, the teacher salaries, and the course materials. How it would work out in practice is a whole 'nother ballgame.
hiya Huggerman
...i worked 20 yrs as a high school art teacherand i know for a fact, it's replacing teachers here.
and i think i was fare in my assessment. (grin)
one doesn't get a whole lot of social development sitting at a computer monitor, nor exercise. it's an isolated way of learning in most situations. but again, i did mention it works for some.
and i hope you noticed galrads comment.
i prefer it for adult learning. one of the courses i took (english poetry), i zipped right through it (putting in long hours)and got it 'over with' quickly (not a big poetry fan...lol). and there was an online 'instructor' i could call one hour per week for two months. only called her once. and the system counts of folks like me to not call.
i think the welding course i took would of been much harder to take on line..and i really liked it much better than poetry
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SnarkyEmpath: As a student taking online courses, I know that the process has its advantages and disadvantages. For someone who is a bit socially awkward, it works out well since there is a buffer between the student and their classmates, teachers, and advisors. It is also highly efficient for those with changing schedules and family obligations. With online learning, there is no strict schedule, no obligation to leave your family to get to classes.
However, if you lack self discipline, it can be a bad choice. Because you set your own schedule to meet your due dates, it can be very difficult for those who are not self motivated. Even though I have the drive and ambition to earn my degrees, I lose focus at times, and find it hard to get back into things. I just keep reminding myself that I can't do what I want to do with my life if I don't get my focus back.
On the whole, I'd say it's not for everyone. But there are those who would greatly benefit from the structure of online learning. It really depends on what you want to learn, and what you are able to handle.
However, if you lack self discipline, it can be a bad choice. Because you set your own schedule to meet your due dates, it can be very difficult for those who are not self motivated. Even though I have the drive and ambition to earn my degrees, I lose focus at times, and find it hard to get back into things. I just keep reminding myself that I can't do what I want to do with my life if I don't get my focus back.
On the whole, I'd say it's not for everyone. But there are those who would greatly benefit from the structure of online learning. It really depends on what you want to learn, and what you are able to handle.
nicely stated.do you think it makes a difference depending on the age of the student or what type of course it is?
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I took two small engine courses, one from Foley-Belsaw, and one from Penn Foster. I passed both and received my certificates in small engine repair.
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HuggerMan4U: I took two small engine courses, one from Foley-Belsaw, and one from Penn Foster. I passed both and received my certificates in small engine repair.
that sounds really interesting! how did they test you if you don't mind me asking. and i was wondering how did online work with the practical hands on stuff?
so are you using those skills now? what type of engines?
there's room here for a really naughty question..but i'm not asking it...
i was joking about the welding..but i really did take a welding course and i really did like it more than poetry. and obviously because of the studio and equipment necessary..on line wasn't an option for that one.
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jono7: that sounds really interesting! how did they test you if you don't mind me asking. and i was wondering how did online work with the practical hands on stuff?
My daughter is doing a three year online university course in Environmental Science which involves such things as biology and chemistry so when it comes to the practical side of the course, they either mail the relevant items to her (insects, flowers etc for dissection) or she attends a local university to sit the exams if necessary.
At one point she had to fly to the other side of the country to carry out lab exams at the university which is responsible for the online course.
I'm currently doing a Diploma in Business online, which I prefer to having to attend a college as well as working fulltime
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Margo19991: Do you think it is really useful or worth nothing?
My own generation is already listless and doesn't really know how to think or interact properly.
I don't see how spending even more time sat in front of a metal box is supposed to help with any of this. Lemmings is what you will make.
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It's a cash cow for universities, that's certain.
I agree with what's been said before: For certain courses, it's great; for lab courses or upper level courses where you need others to participate, do team projects and exchange ideas, probably not.
A lot depends on how good your access is to the instructor and whether you can network with other online students. I'm sure that not all online programs are of the same quality.
Definitely must be self-motivated and self-disciplined long term.
I agree with what's been said before: For certain courses, it's great; for lab courses or upper level courses where you need others to participate, do team projects and exchange ideas, probably not.
A lot depends on how good your access is to the instructor and whether you can network with other online students. I'm sure that not all online programs are of the same quality.
Definitely must be self-motivated and self-disciplined long term.
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Thanks everybody for your answers. We live in the world where a computer is really important. I was wondering what people think about learning via the Internet. For me it maybe useful when you sit at home taking care of your baby or other relative. But you are right, this kind of learning do not allow you to inreract with others eye-to-eye. So it is not for everybody.
As for the age groups, I suppose that the young could prefer this kind of learning. It is fast, they can learn when they want. Maybe it is less stressfull?
I do not know how many e-learnign courses there are on the Internet, I have not counted them, but I am afraid some of them may be false. How to recognize false courses? I do not have an idea.
As for the age groups, I suppose that the young could prefer this kind of learning. It is fast, they can learn when they want. Maybe it is less stressfull?
I do not know how many e-learnign courses there are on the Internet, I have not counted them, but I am afraid some of them may be false. How to recognize false courses? I do not have an idea.
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I actually see E learning as the education vehicle of the future as a cheaper option to providing schools and teacher pupil ratios. My concern is that education is about more than academic achievement. It also involves learning to interact with our peers.
I remember as a kid though, seeing programmes on tv about how kids in the outback in Australia were educated using two way radios at home to communicate with teachers, so it has a precedent.
I remember as a kid though, seeing programmes on tv about how kids in the outback in Australia were educated using two way radios at home to communicate with teachers, so it has a precedent.
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jono7: nicely stated.
do you think it makes a difference depending on the age of the student or what type of course it is?
do you think it makes a difference depending on the age of the student or what type of course it is?
Considering that this is my second go at schooling, I do think that age plays into it somewhat. However, I think what's more influential is if you have passion for the subject you're studying. I'll use myself to illustrate this. My first shot was for Information Technology. I wanted to deal with software and programming. I took it because my family was pressuring me and because I thought that since I seem to grasp technology fairly easily, it would be something I could accomplish. I was nineteen when I tried this, and my mentality was a lot different than it is now.
Last year, I decided to pursue a subject that has fascinated me since I was a teenager, and something I have a lot of love for. I am currently working toward a bachelor's degree in psychology. I have been through a lot of difficult times in my life, so I know how hard it is to see that it can get better. I love helping to show others that they have the strength to get through the bad times. I love knowing that I've eased someone's mind, even if only a little, and even if only for a moment. I feel that it's a lasting gift to help them through even one moment of pain.
So to reiterate, I believe that the biggest factor to look at when choosing a field of study, online or on campus, is whether or not you have a love of the subject. Does it spark your curiosity, your creativity? Does the thought of that subject fill you with an energy that little else can? Ultimately, is it something you can be content doing for at least a good portion of your life?
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Godsgift: I actually see E learning as the education vehicle of the future as a cheaper option to providing schools and teacher pupil ratios. My concern is that education is about more than academic achievement. It also involves learning to interact with our peers.
I remember as a kid though, seeing programmes on tv about how kids in the outback in Australia were educated using two way radios at home to communicate with teachers, so it has a precedent.
I remember as a kid though, seeing programmes on tv about how kids in the outback in Australia were educated using two way radios at home to communicate with teachers, so it has a precedent.
Wow, Australia must have some pretty remote places.
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SnarkyEmpath: Considering that this is my second go at schooling, I do think that age plays into it somewhat. However, I think what's more influential is if you have passion for the subject you're studying. I'll use myself to illustrate this. My first shot was for Information Technology. I wanted to deal with software and programming. I took it because my family was pressuring me and because I thought that since I seem to grasp technology fairly easily, it would be something I could accomplish. I was nineteen when I tried this, and my mentality was a lot different than it is now.
Last year, I decided to pursue a subject that has fascinated me since I was a teenager, and something I have a lot of love for. I am currently working toward a bachelor's degree in psychology. I have been through a lot of difficult times in my life, so I know how hard it is to see that it can get better. I love helping to show others that they have the strength to get through the bad times. I love knowing that I've eased someone's mind, even if only a little, and even if only for a moment. I feel that it's a lasting gift to help them through even one moment of pain.
So to reiterate, I believe that the biggest factor to look at when choosing a field of study, online or on campus, is whether or not you have a love of the subject. Does it spark your curiosity, your creativity? Does the thought of that subject fill you with an energy that little else can? Ultimately, is it something you can be content doing for at least a good portion of your life?
Last year, I decided to pursue a subject that has fascinated me since I was a teenager, and something I have a lot of love for. I am currently working toward a bachelor's degree in psychology. I have been through a lot of difficult times in my life, so I know how hard it is to see that it can get better. I love helping to show others that they have the strength to get through the bad times. I love knowing that I've eased someone's mind, even if only a little, and even if only for a moment. I feel that it's a lasting gift to help them through even one moment of pain.
So to reiterate, I believe that the biggest factor to look at when choosing a field of study, online or on campus, is whether or not you have a love of the subject. Does it spark your curiosity, your creativity? Does the thought of that subject fill you with an energy that little else can? Ultimately, is it something you can be content doing for at least a good portion of your life?
hiya SnarkyEmpath
(love that name...lolol..grin)thanks for getting back to me.
and you say it so clearly as well thank you.
yes, i think motivation has a lot to do with it, coupled with self discipline.
with that poetry course..i was highly motivated to get it done as i needed the credits for it to enter a different program i wanted to take.
and i still study, sometimes classes, sometimes just on my own using the internet..(always a student..lol) pursuing knowledge in the areas where i feel passion.
i'm with you on this one.
don't know if you ever heard of Joseph Campbell...he was a great story teller and cultural historian and he used to say, 'follow your bliss'. and i think he's right.
good luck with your courses! i used to work as a licensed therapist..it can be very rewarding for sure.
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jono7: that sounds really interesting! how did they test you if you don't mind me asking. and i was wondering how did online work with the practical hands on stuff?
so are you using those skills now? what type of engines?
there's room here for a really naughty question..but i'm not asking it...
i was joking about the welding..but i really did take a welding course and i really did like it more than poetry. and obviously because of the studio and equipment necessary..on line wasn't an option for that one.
so are you using those skills now? what type of engines?
there's room here for a really naughty question..but i'm not asking it...
i was joking about the welding..but i really did take a welding course and i really did like it more than poetry. and obviously because of the studio and equipment necessary..on line wasn't an option for that one.
Since these were correspondence courses, testing was done open book style, although I didn't get every answer right because I couldn't find some of the answers right away. I got 100% on some tests, and 90% on others, but of course I was motivated to learn this stuff. That makes a huge difference. The courses actually sent me tools and even small engines to work on, and at the end both courses sent me tool boxes with even more tools. One of my companies is Kent Engine Clinic, and I have a number of projects in the shop right now. These are small engines (lawn mower size, on up to tractor engines (20+ horsepower). The courses were well worth it, and I'm even thinking of taking locksmithing courses to round out my expertise.
Naughty question? Well, if a guy stumbled into a spark plug with a running engine, he can pretty much forget having a girlfriend!!
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I am preparing to start my first online 2 year course.
I expect to complete the course way ahead of time since I have a passion for the subject matter and I have been studying it on my own for a number of years.
The course is in Molecular Clinical Nutrition and covers Molecular Psychology as well.
I live very remote and there are no schools nearby. This school is the only one in the world teaching the course in a Bible based format. It is exactly my field of study and I am in awe that I will be able to begin very soon!
Online is the only way to go, for me.
HL
I expect to complete the course way ahead of time since I have a passion for the subject matter and I have been studying it on my own for a number of years.
The course is in Molecular Clinical Nutrition and covers Molecular Psychology as well.
I live very remote and there are no schools nearby. This school is the only one in the world teaching the course in a Bible based format. It is exactly my field of study and I am in awe that I will be able to begin very soon!
Online is the only way to go, for me.
HL
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HealthyLiving: I am preparing to start my first online 2 year course.
I expect to complete the course way ahead of time since I have a passion for the subject matter and I have been studying it on my own for a number of years.
The course is in Molecular Clinical Nutrition and covers Molecular Psychology as well.
I live very remote and there are no schools nearby. This school is the only one in the world teaching the course in a Bible based format. It is exactly my field of study and I am in awe that I will be able to begin very soon!
Online is the only way to go, for me.
HL
I expect to complete the course way ahead of time since I have a passion for the subject matter and I have been studying it on my own for a number of years.
The course is in Molecular Clinical Nutrition and covers Molecular Psychology as well.
I live very remote and there are no schools nearby. This school is the only one in the world teaching the course in a Bible based format. It is exactly my field of study and I am in awe that I will be able to begin very soon!
Online is the only way to go, for me.
HL
It must be remote. Ive never heard of Paradise, Oklahoma.
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Margo19991: Do you think it is really useful or worth nothing?
It can be usefull but different people find it easier to learn in different ways, personally I prefer face to face teaching as it means I can ask questions and I don't have to wait for the answer.
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I think its awesome...It makes education available to all. The better educated the planet, The better world we live in! 
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HuggerMan4U: Jono must work for the government, because only the government would use big words like "different modalities", "interaction with peers", etc. We students better listen up, because Professor Jono is in the classroom.
It seems to me that billions of dollars could be saved by using e-learnig with all school kids. No expensive school buildings, no school buses. Teachers wouldn't lose their jobs because somebody has to do the e-teaching. The only expense would be a computer for each student, the teacher salaries, and the course materials. How it would work out in practice is a whole 'nother ballgame.
It seems to me that billions of dollars could be saved by using e-learnig with all school kids. No expensive school buildings, no school buses. Teachers wouldn't lose their jobs because somebody has to do the e-teaching. The only expense would be a computer for each student, the teacher salaries, and the course materials. How it would work out in practice is a whole 'nother ballgame.
Professor Jono might just be a regular person with a Canadian education.
Don't forget the price of utilities - and most e-learning also includes telephone conference calls and periodic meetings for socialization as we humans seem to need that.
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JeanKimberley: Professor Jono might just be a regular person with a Canadian education.
Don't forget the price of utilities - and most e-learning also includes telephone conference calls and periodic meetings for socialization as we humans seem to need that.
Don't forget the price of utilities - and most e-learning also includes telephone conference calls and periodic meetings for socialization as we humans seem to need that.
hiya JL
thank you. i am just a regular person...
(with a deep appreciation of learning, however
one chooses to pursue it)
although i have a formal education, i think most
of my learning has been via the 'school of hard knocks'
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jono7: hiya JL
thank you. i am just a regular person...
(with a deep appreciation of learning, however
one chooses to pursue it)
although i have a formal education, i think most
of my learning has been via the 'school of hard knocks'
thank you. i am just a regular person...
(with a deep appreciation of learning, however
one chooses to pursue it)
although i have a formal education, i think most
of my learning has been via the 'school of hard knocks'
I went to that same high school! and it improved my vision - for hindsight...
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Godsgift: I actually see E learning as the education vehicle of the future as a cheaper option to providing schools and teacher pupil ratios. My concern is that education is about more than academic achievement. It also involves learning to interact with our peers.
I remember as a kid though, seeing programmes on tv about how kids in the outback in Australia were educated using two way radios at home to communicate with teachers, so it has a precedent.
I remember as a kid though, seeing programmes on tv about how kids in the outback in Australia were educated using two way radios at home to communicate with teachers, so it has a precedent.
I agree with Godsgift very much on the financial savings to the schools. As a current college student myself, I have taken fully online mandatory courses for my program as well as strictly in class courses and hybrid courses. Hybrid meets in person 1-2x week and gives the PowerPoint lectures and homwork assignments online. We also view the PowerPoint lectures in class and the teacher usually explains things a bit more. The class face to face interaction is important and I overall do better in the hybrid classes. I have a 3.84 GPA on a 4.0 scale. As the oldest student in my classes but only a part time student, this is no easy task to be a student going on 60 yrs old in less than 3 months in a for credit program in order to blend a new career with one I already have.
As a nurse with a permanent back injury and not extremely marketable in a job sense now for the multitude of nursing jobs out there, I've had look to blend a new career with nursing to stay marketable in the job world. Something that is very common for older folks like me in the U.S. who are past 50 and with work injuries that leave us on the sidelines with companies that are in favor of the younger workers. We are used till we are no longer useful and then put out to pasture so to speak to collect disability or fade off into the sunset after giving years of our life to a company.
What I've also learned now is that working as a nurse for so many years, I did not keep up with the business side of nursing or train in new technologies to diversify myself, so when it came to promotions, I got overlooked frequently even though annual work evaluations were always excellent.
Becoming computer literate and being able to get educated is of vital importance. If a program happens to be very far away and I can get the information via internet, then I'm all for it if I have a good teacher support system to clarify the things I don't understand.
Currently, I drive 76 miles round trip 2 days a week for school and some semesters have been 3 days a week.
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I have found the inernet to be rich with information as a source
than any other media. I frequently google for info to make life
easier for me. Should be taught in the schools.
than any other media. I frequently google for info to make life
easier for me. Should be taught in the schools.
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