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Oct 19, 2012 8:16 PM CSTTHE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region, Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts

THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?(Vote Below)

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Obama of course! 99 procent matters most !
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Romney of course! 1 procent rich, Handouts nuff !
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Ladies and Genltmen!

During this thread... a bout less than a three weeks from now... THE president of THE United States of America will be elected, and votes of citizens of our greatest ally THE US of A, and THE most important country on planet Earth, plus decision of delegates plus a lot more will decide what direction America will go.

So far... both candidates have been pretty active talking a bout their points of views, and massive numbers of tv ads and internet ads and news papers and you name it have been used in order of delevering their messages and astronomical amounts of money have been used and both candidates will keep talking, and debating for the last time on monday seven pm EST.

President Obama did a great job on the last tv debate and stood strong on his positions, and showed dissatisfaction by lies of Romney, and did not allow Romney getting a momentum on matters which were not really truthfull any way.

Romney on the other hand received some credit since he stood strong on his positions as well, and made clear for America that his kinds of guys are ready and waiting behind corridors jumping in and pushing America ultra right winger side , and that direction is of course appriciated for some americans as well.

I am sure for most americans the main question is what direction they want America to go? Those keep claiming the whole thing will be the exact same got to do their best and remebering how massivly America changes during a presidency up to who is on power in the White House, and thinking detailes a bout their every day lives and what is going on around them and what realities they feel is happening in their beloves country.

Is this really true? Every thing THE Exact Same no matter who is on power? The Exact same no matter what majority in houses?

What direction America wants? Bread crumbs of Romney and bloody Co. will be enough for you guys? Romney,s Care for his churge and his beleif enough for you guys? Lying for his kind of "Lord" enough for you guys? Selling you guys a bad car you really need to rely on driving your loved ones all a cross America is all what you need because Romney is a good sales man and keeps talking till you think what the heck and paying him your hard earned money just to make him shut up? Can a man who change his so called "positions" every second hour for the sake of election good enough for you all? Did Mass. really give him an endorsement by just electing him a single time and then elected a Dem again and was his illegally removing Data from Gov. office over there a sign a bout him being Loyal and Honest as Government? Bain Capital of him a real saviour of american jobs and peoples pensions and health care and stuff? Borrow money from "dadda"? Missionery service for Mormons instead of Military service for America? Millions to his own church only and then calling it a "charity" as if it is a Heck of job helping his own Cult like other members of the same Cult and other Cults are doing night and day? Cayman islands and Swiss instead of American banks? Freaking Stupid insulting one of US best allies the UK and talking nonesense a bout sensitive international matters which Romney have no freaking Clue a bout what so ever? A Cult all of sudden on rule in the US of A? So many horrible results of Global warming also in USA Costing Billions and resulting in higher food prices than almost Ever... and then giving it all back to Greatest and most dangerous and most stincky Enemy of mother nature in human history which is with no Doubt what so ever THE dang GOP?



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Oct 19, 2012 8:41 PM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
part two...

And what a bout his so called VP choice? A wanna be "Rambo" who is Romboing agaisnt universal heath care for number one superpower on Earth able ofdoing almost what so ever and still people are dying because of being poor and can not affrod hospital bills?

Please America! Do some thing! Do not allow THEM taking it all back this easy and as if staying home and bashing on who ever on charge will mean change!

Support those you believe will be best for America and do your best and when the elections are over and out feel good a bout at least YOU did your best for helping America going on the direction YOU want her to go!



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Oct 20, 2012 6:53 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Obama has been "outed" for his big debate lie, Dude. For two weeks the world listened to him telling us the Ambassador died because of a video, only to learn that was not the case at all.

On top of that we now know poor Ambassador wrote cable after cable warning of increased dangers and al qaeda flags being raised... and the administration left them there with no security to die.

Few Americans will forgive such a cold, heartless blunder. thumbs down
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Oct 20, 2012 6:54 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Nor can they respect the obvious cover-up.

It's time for this liar to go.
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Oct 20, 2012 6:59 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
OMG,another ACORN-Poll!

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Oct 20, 2012 7:00 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
WhatUwish4: Obama has been "outed" for his big debate lie, Dude. For two weeks the world listened to him telling us the Ambassador died because of a video, only to learn that was not the case at all.On top of that we now know poor Ambassador wrote cable after cable warning of increased dangers and al qaeda flags being raised... and the administration left them there with no security to die.Few Americans will forgive such a cold, heartless blunder.


comfort please stop! I wish people would just stop thinking that if the "right" man, their man is elected president that america will get back on track. Although I am a big fan of Obamas - I don't care for the republican agenda - I still think that economic recovery will take more than 4 years - and our foreign agenda is better served with the democrats in office -

when you say things for few americans will forgive such a cold heartless blunder - just speak for yourself - cause you can't speak for a few americans - you can only speak for one american - yourself.

although your opinions are valuable - sometimes..... it is just too too much for me handshake
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Oct 20, 2012 7:02 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
benidorm
benidormbenidormwellington, Wellington New Zealand58 Threads 1 Polls 499 Posts
Vote a sheep called romney or your current president Obama.
We have John key he probably closer to likes of mit Romney.He will have one more term then is unable to get in if remeber right with your rules with presidents terms of office.
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Oct 20, 2012 7:03 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
benidorm
benidormbenidormwellington, Wellington New Zealand58 Threads 1 Polls 499 Posts
I meant three terms for president only then out correct me if wrong.
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Oct 20, 2012 7:13 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
benidorm: I meant three terms for president only then out correct me if wrong.


only 2 terms thumbs up
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Oct 20, 2012 7:17 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Sorry Jean... But that works both ways. We've had to sit listening for YEARS to a blatently biased media shape public opinion by distorting the facts - AND an administration that has been pumping out lies and misinformation.

I did not say ALL Americans... I said few Americans. I do not make large sweeping statements presenting them as "facts" the way our friend Dude does.

I am not very interested in confronting anyone here or anywhere else. But I will not sit back and let this liberal spin machine continue to sweep BIG problems and BIG lies under the rug.
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Oct 20, 2012 7:23 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
WhatUwish4: Sorry Jean... But that works both ways. I did not say ALL Americans... I said few Americans. I do not make large sweeping statements presenting them as "facts" the way our friend Dude does.

I am not very interested in confronting anyone here or anywhere else. But I will not sit back and let this liberal spin machine continue to sweep BIG problems and BIG lies under the rug.


handshake ya for sure - Dude is a muckraker....

I am find all this pre election stuff 2 much - let's just get to the polls and vote - the election is just one small portion of how our country works -

I found that the years with Bush took our country down a dark and destructive path and we are moving in the right direction with the democrats in power now - why mess with a good thing - let him finish the job he set out to complete.
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Oct 20, 2012 7:26 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Jean - you seem like a nice person and a reasonable one, so let me ask you an honest question..

We now know the Ambassador send numerous cables in the days and weeks leading up to his death where he stressed the increase in danger and repeatedly asked for some security.

Being the nice, reasonable person that I think you are, how can you not be angered that his pleas were completely ignored?

And how can you not be angerd that this administration deliberately, intentionally and undeniably lied to the world?

I'm genuinely curious about how any reasonable person could excuse this, which is why I'm asking you. What kind of president does this? dunno
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Oct 20, 2012 7:30 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
JeanKimberley: ya for sure - Dude is a muckraker....

I am find all this pre election stuff 2 much - let's just get to the polls and vote - the election is just one small portion of how our country works -

I found that the years with Bush took our country down a dark and destructive path and we are moving in the right direction with the democrats in power now - why mess with a good thing - let him finish the job he set out to complete.


But don't you see? Much of what shaped your opinions was the biased media pumping out information that was deliberately cherry-picked to persuade Americans to think that way.

In the meantime, they deliberately cherry-picked the Obama coverage (or LACK of coverage) to get him elected.

If a conservative with no background and serious questionable ties to terrorists and other criminals ran for president, the biased media would have been all over the candidate and would have never let him see the light of a voting booth.
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Oct 20, 2012 7:46 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
It’s called the what you wish for news service. Whatever pops into its head.
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Oct 20, 2012 7:54 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
purr4mance: It’s called the what you wish for news service. Whatever pops into its head.


Stalking a little early today, are ya? laugh
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Oct 20, 2012 8:04 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
WhatUwish4: I routinely scan about 200 news articles a day from all the sources. I start with AOL/Huffington Post, then move to Fox, then CNN, CBS, the White House sites, and media throughout the world. Then I pick the stories apart for "spin" and find the common ground of the facts. In this case, we now have the published e-mails and cables, plus what we all saw on national TV and what came out of Obama's mouth personally.

Some things just can't be covered up, much to mainstream media's distress.


P.S. It's an "occupational" hazard of mine to watch the media and read for spin. It bugs me that they have completely dropped all pretense of OBJECTIVITY in favor of PERSUASION.
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Oct 20, 2012 8:14 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
BARACK OBAMA: Praise for president mounts

For Susan Ratner of Shaker Heights, admiration for President Barack Obama goes back to 2008, “when the country was in sad and sorry shape.
“He offered a temperament and vision on how to bring things back to center,” said Ratner. “I thought the things he wanted to do were important for the country. I feel his accomplishments in a very difficult environment have been very under-represented.”
Ratner and her husband Jim recently signed a full-page advertisement in the Cleveland Jewish News titled “Re-elect President Obama – Good for America. Good for Israel.” Susan Ratner is assistant director of special projects at Bellefaire JCB and Jim Ratner is executive vice president of Forest City Enterprises.
Among Obama’s achievements, Susan Ratner said, was the automobile-industry bailout during the financial crisis. “People would have lost everything. We as a country responded in a very democratic and capitalistic way in saving jobs, and the industry is thriving. It was a win-win for everyone.”
Ratner also lauded Obama’s health care reform as “a pragmatic beginning to one of the biggest problems we face,” as well as his commitment to Israel and his success in bringing down the ‘linchpin of terrorism,’ Osama bin Laden.

From first-time voters and college students to retired rabbis, many Jewish people in Northeast Ohio are voicing approval of Obama as the election nears. They point out his strides in helping the economy, the middle class and Israel.

First-time voter Noah Fromson, 18, a senior at Solon High School who attended the Obama rally as editor-in-chief of the school newspaper, the Courier, said he was thrilled to shake Obama’s hand.
“I’m going to vote for Obama because I believe that he is a very compassionate person who cares about the American people,” said Noah, a member of The Park Synagogue in Cleveland Heights and Pepper Pike. “I want to give him time to let his plans develop more, because we were in such a hole after the Bush administration. Some people expect results too quickly. He still has more to do and will help us move forward.”
“My No. 1 issue – and why I’m supporting the president personally – is his big support and the way he’s handled student loans and aid,” said Brush High School graduate Jake Green, a sophomore and communications director for College Democrats at Kent State University. “Because of the extra millions of dollars he’s injected into the federal aid program, I’m personally able to go to school. And I also believe his economic plan, which creates a more fair tax system, will ultimately fix our economy.”

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Oct 20, 2012 8:20 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
WhatUwish4: P.S. It's an "occupational" hazard of mine to watch the media and read for spin. It bugs me that they have completely dropped all pretense of OBJECTIVITY in favor of PERSUASION.


Sensation is what the media does and it's a city industry so it often comes with a cosmopolitan bias. The same anywhere and everywhere you go.
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Oct 20, 2012 8:24 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
166 pages of internal State Department documents released Friday show that slain U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and the security officers assigned to protect him repeatedly sounded alarms to their superiors in Washington about the intensifying lawlessness and violence in Eastern Libya, where Stevens ultimately died...

Roughly a month earlier... on Aug. 8, the ambassador noted that in just a few months' time, "Benghazi has moved from trepidation to euphoria and back as a series of violent incidents has dominated the political landscape." He added, "The individual incidents have been organized," a function of "the security vacuum that a diverse group of independent actors are exploiting for their own purposes."

"Islamist extremists are able to attack the Red Cross with relative impunity," Stevens cabled. "What we have seen are not random crimes of opportunity, but rather targeted and discriminate attacks." His final comment on the two-page document was: "Attackers are unlikely to be deterred until authorities are at least as capable."

By Sept. 4, Stevens' aides were reporting back to Washington on the "strong Revolutionary and Islamist sentiment" in the city.

Scarcely more than two months had passed since Stevens had notified the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice and other agencies about a "recent increase in violent incidents," including "attacks against western interests." "Until the GOL (Government of Libya) is able to effectively deal with these key issues," Stevens wrote on June 25, "the violence is likely to continue and worsen."

After the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi had been damaged by an improvised explosive device, earlier that month, Stevens had reported to his superiors that an Islamist group had claimed credit for the attack, and in so doing, had "described the attack as targeting the Christians supervising the management of the consulate."

"Islamic extremism appears to be on the rise in eastern Libya," the ambassador wrote, adding that "the Al-Qaeda flag has been spotted several times flying over government buildings and training facilities ..."

The documents also contain evidence that the State Department's denials of requests for enhanced security in Benghazi in the months leading up to the attack may have contributed to the ability of the attackers to plan their assault on the consulate and annex grounds without being detected.


"Multiple warnings about security threats were contained in Ambassador Stevens' own words in multiple cables sent to Washington, D.C., and were manifested by two prior bombings of the Benghazi compound and an assassination attempt on the British ambassador," the congressmen wrote. "For this administration to assume that terrorists were not involved in the 9/11 anniversary attack would have required a willing suspension of disbelief."

State Department spokesman Mark Toner said, in response to the latest documents: "An independent board is conducting a thorough review of the assault on our post in Benghazi. Once we have the board's comprehensive account of what happened, findings and recommendations, we can fully address these matters."

At the State Department briefing Friday, spokeswoman Victoria Nuland declined to comment on published reports alleging that an official working for the Central Intelligence Agency had informed the Obama administration on Sept. 12 that the Benghazi murders were an act of terrorism.


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Oct 20, 2012 8:28 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Rumple4skin: Sensation is what the media does and it's a city industry so it often comes with a cosmopolitan bias. The same anywhere and everywhere you go.


Agreed - but as one who holds a degree in Journalism, I can tell you this is not how the subject is (WAS) taught. The emphasis was on objectivity and how to construct a story in ways to AVOID media bias.

That all went out the window when George Soros started buying up the medis.
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Oct 20, 2012 8:32 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
Barack Obama’s presidency has been a halo effect. Like I did so many years ago, in 2008 America fell victim to false advertising. As the past four years have demonstrated beyond any serious debate, the idea of President Obama was far better than the reality of President Obama. We were promised the world. We were promised transparency; but we were sold an illusion. We got took.

Indeed, during the 2008 campaign, a then-Sen. Barack Obama promised us that, if elected, we would look back upon the moment he took office and “tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on earth.”

That was the idea of President Obama. That was what many good, well-meaning people voted for. That was the hope offered and the change promised.

That was not what we got.

Though it’s certainly not a comprehensive analysis, during the second presidential debate, Mitt Romney, in response to Mr. Obama’s attempts to gloss over his mounting leadership failures, summarized a few of the big ones. While addressing an audience member who, perhaps like you, voted for Obama in 2008, Romney observed, in part, the following:


I think you know better. I think you know that these last four years haven’t been so good as the president just described and that you don’t feel like you’re confident that the next four years are going to be much better either. …

He said that, by now, we’d have unemployment at 5.4 percent. The difference between where it is and 5.4 percent is 9 million Americans without work. …

He said he would have, by now, put forward a plan to reform Medicare and Social Security, because he pointed out they’re on the road to bankruptcy. He would reform them. He’d get that done. He hasn’t even made a proposal on either one.

He said in his first year he’d put out an immigration plan that would deal with our immigration challenges. Didn’t even file it.

This is a president who has not been able to do what he said he’d do. He said that he’d cut in half the deficit. He hasn’t done that either. In fact, he doubled it.

He said that by now middle-income families would have a reduction in their health insurance premiums by $2,500 a year. It’s gone up by $2,500 a year. And if Obamacare is … implemented fully, it’ll be another $2,500. …

The middle class is getting crushed under the policies of a president who has not understood what it takes to get the economy working again. … he number of people who are still looking for work is still 23 million Americans.

There are more people in poverty, one out of six people in poverty.

How about food stamps? When he took office, 32 million people were on food stamps. Today, 47 million people are on food stamps. How about the growth of the economy? It’s growing more slowly this year than last year – and more slowly last year than the year before. …

The president has tried, but his policies haven’t worked.

Recently, my wife and I attended an outdoor festival in central Virginia. Although the event was not political, there were people from both the Obama and Romney camps handing out campaign stickers and other items. I suspect that if a poll were taken, liberals out-numbered conservatives by about two-to-one.

That’s why I was so taken aback. Although we saw dozens of people wearing Romney stickers, we only saw one man wearing an Obama sticker.

We walked up to a fellow with a gray pony tail, John Lennon glasses and Birkenstocks. He was wearing a Romney sticker.

“Mind if I ask why you’re voting for Mitt Romney?” I asked. “I assume you are.”

His reply – and these were his words, not mine – was short and to the point: “Because I refuse to be that stupid twice.”
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Oct 20, 2012 8:35 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
stringman: Barack Obama’s presidency has been a halo effect. Like I did so many years ago, in 2008 America fell victim to false advertising. As the past four years have demonstrated beyond any serious debate, the idea of President Obama was far better than the reality of President Obama. We were promised the world. We were promised transparency; but we were sold an illusion. We got took.

That was the idea of President Obama. That was what many good, well-meaning people voted for. That was the hope offered and the change promised.

That was not what we got.

Though it’s certainly not a comprehensive analysis, during the second presidential debate, Mitt Romney, in response to Mr. Obama’s attempts to gloss over his mounting leadership failures, summarized a few of the big ones. While addressing an audience member who, perhaps like you, voted for Obama in 2008, Romney observed, in part, the following:


I think you know better. I think you know that these last four years haven’t been so good as the president just described and that you don’t feel like you’re confident that the next four years are going to be much better either. …

He said that, by now, we’d have unemployment at 5.4 percent. The difference between where it is and 5.4 percent is 9 million Americans without work. …

He said he would have, by now, put forward a plan to reform Medicare and Social Security, because he pointed out they’re on the road to bankruptcy. He would reform them. He’d get that done. He hasn’t even made a proposal on either one.

He said in his first year he’d put out an immigration plan that would deal with our immigration challenges. Didn’t even file it.

This is a president who has not been able to do what he said he’d do. He said that he’d cut in half the deficit. He hasn’t done that either. In fact, he doubled it.

He said that by now middle-income families would have a reduction in their health insurance premiums by $2,500 a year. It’s gone up by $2,500 a year. And if Obamacare is … implemented fully, it’ll be another $2,500. …

The middle class is getting crushed under the policies of a president who has not understood what it takes to get the economy working again. … he number of people who are still looking for work is still 23 million Americans.

There are more people in poverty, one out of six people in poverty.

How about food stamps? When he took office, 32 million people were on food stamps. Today, 47 million people are on food stamps. How about the growth of the economy? It’s growing more slowly this year than last year – and more slowly last year than the year before. …

The president has tried, but his policies haven’t worked.

Recently, my wife and I attended an outdoor festival in central Virginia. Although the event was not political, there were people from both the Obama and Romney camps handing out campaign stickers and other items. I suspect that if a poll were taken, liberals out-numbered conservatives by about two-to-one.

That’s why I was so taken aback. Although we saw dozens of people wearing Romney stickers, we only saw one man wearing an Obama sticker.

We walked up to a fellow with a gray pony tail, John Lennon glasses and Birkenstocks. He was wearing a Romney sticker.

“Mind if I ask why you’re voting for Mitt Romney?” I asked. “I assume you are.”

His reply – and these were his words, not mine – was short and to the point: “Because I refuse to be that stupid twice.”



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Oct 20, 2012 8:42 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
The allegation that the administration was engaged in a "cover-up" of events in Benghazi is so far similarly unpersuasive. Republicans have focused on remarks by several administration officials, in particular those by UN Ambassador Susan Rice, that the attacks were a spontaneous outburst linked to an anti-Islam video that provoked protests elsewhere. Obviously, the administration has a political incentive to downplay blemishes on its anti-terror record. And its message in the immediate wake of the crisis was muddled to say the least. (And not for the first time on matters relating to terrorism.) But a cover-up? Obama referred to the attack as an act of terror the day after the incident. A week later, the State Department announced it was appointing an independent panel to investigate the events in Benghazi. The administration has also made administration officials available to Congress for testimony, and those officials have not stonewalled when questioned.




Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.
On Wednesday morning, CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien asked the Utah Republican if he had "voted to cut the funding for embassy security."
"Absolutely," Chaffetz said. "Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have…15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama, in Baghdad. And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces. When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize things.”
For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million.
Consulate personnel stationed in Benghazi had allegedly expressed concerns over their safety in the months leading up to the Sept. 11 attacks that killed four Americans, including Amb. Chris Stevens. Chaffetz and Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), who chairs the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, claim those concerns were ignored.
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Oct 20, 2012 8:47 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
Ouch! "Salt Lake Tribune," Citing Romney's 47-Percent Rant, Endorses Obama

Then the Tribune slams him as an opportunistic and untrustworthy shape-shifter:
From his embrace of the party’s radical right wing, to subsequent portrayals of himself as a moderate champion of the middle class, Romney has raised the most frequently asked question of the campaign: "Who is this guy, really, and what in the world does he truly believe?"
The evidence suggests no clear answer, or at least one that would survive Romney’s next speech or sound bite. Politicians routinely tailor their words to suit an audience. Romney, though, is shameless, lavishing vastly diverse audiences with words, any words, they would trade their votes to hear.
It gets worse. The paper ridicules his refusal to provide specifics for his tax plan. And it ends with Romney's 47-percent rant:
If this portrait of a Romney willing to say anything to get elected seems harsh, we need only revisit his branding of 47 percent of Americans as freeloaders who pay no taxes, yet feel victimized and entitled to government assistance. His job, he told a group of wealthy donors, "is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
Where, we ask, is the pragmatic, inclusive Romney, the Massachusetts governor who left the state with a model health care plan in place, the Romney who led Utah to Olympic glory? That Romney skedaddled and is nowhere to be found.
They say you're never a hero in your own hometown. But here's a case in which Romney is pummeled by those who know him well and who yearn for the Romney they once saw. That Romney is long gone.
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Oct 20, 2012 8:48 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Good to see you back Dude. I was starting to to think that you had ......seen the light. Realized that last four years of posting, blogging, criticizing, angering, harping, obfiscating, shaming, and demeaning for President Obama had been a waste. Decided to sit out the 2012.

Well now Obama campaign is down to being pitiful....that according to Mitt Romney. I had kind of thought that it got there years ago. Oh sorry, I miss read they....Mitt Romney says it has gotten ...petty



When you really think about it...political correctness....is being
petty. Yes? It that not what we have lived with the last 4 years.
We cannot do the Keystone....because ground water might be polluted.
They have cleanup ground water oil spills in the past. We cannot do offshore oil drilling because.....PB's oil spill. But we got that under control.

Being petty and politically correct....is just a way to live in fear......fear something is going to happen. Of course something is going to happen. You can either shape the events or you can be political correct and ignore things.

Ignore all the warnings on troubles coming to Benghazi for the lightly secured consulate. The very day of the attack, Amb. Steven email Washington for more security. It was ignored.

Political correctness at work. Take President Obama most recent discription of the event....."they were not optimal".....Jon Stewart talked him into using the cold assessment of the events. But he weal will followed and said.

The Mother of one of the dead SEALs just went public on his heartless comment.



More in the country are seeing this shady side of President Obama, Dude. It is not so dark really....just that he get talked into saying things like this when off script. The Russians have done it to him. Liberals in his White House have done it to him. Muslims have done to him. He just repeats the given position, without thinking it through.

Been reading Edwards Klines....Amateur....here is a quote from Obama Doctor that knew his for over 20 years in Chicago.....Dr. Schiemer said this.....Schiemer is liberal and supports 'socialized medicine'...."I look at his helath are program and I can't see how it can work, he has no cost control in his program. The CBO said it is going to be incredibly expensive....and the thing I am worried about is, if it is the failure that I think it would set health reform back a long time."

Then.....

"My main objection to Barack Obama is that is a great speaker and a lousy communicator. He isn't getting his message across to the people. He is not showing that he really cares. To this day he hasn't communicated with members of Congress."

Then....

"He's got academic University of Chicago-type people around him that
don't care."

and

"I can really related to people, but I never related to him. I never had a closeness with him that I had with other patients."

Finally

Obama has academic detachment, I treated many from the University of Chicago faculty and I've been able to crack thru their academic detachment. Not Obama. We never got to where we'd discuss intimate things. For instance I never heard anything about his family life. Other patient invited me to dinner and their homes, but Obama never did. Obama invited his barber to his inauguration-his barber. But I was not invited. Believe me, that hurt."

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WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
ORLANDO SENTINAL ENDORSES ROMNEY AFTER BACKING OBAMA IN 2008

Four years after throwing its support behind then-presidential candidate Barack Obama, the Orlando Sentinel is saying it's time to change course.

In an editorial announcing the paper's endorsement of GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney, the editorial board of the large Florida daily delivers some harsh criticisms of the president, while admitting that they're not entirely satisfied with Romney's positions.

"We have little confidence that Obama would be more successful managing the economy and the budget in the next four years," the editorial board writes, after outlining their displeasure with nagging deficits and a slow economic recovery. "For that reason, though we endorsed him in 2008, we are recommending Romney in this race."

The editorial goes on to accuse Obama of not pursuing sufficient bipartisan efforts to tackle the debt and deficit, while praising Romney for making entitlement reform a prominent campaign issue. The paper also makes clear that its opposition to Obama doesn't stem from conspiracy theories or fringe arguments about his supposed lack of patriotism, and that its support for Romney doesn't come without some reservations



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TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
What many feel about CRowley bailing out Obama in the town hall are saying....



Crowley 82 questions to pick from. So knew what was going to be asked.
She admitted that she "research" this one. Pure liberal media bias was shown in the townhall.
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Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
WhatUwish4: Agreed - but as one who holds a degree in Journalism, I can tell you this is not how the subject is (WAS) taught. The emphasis was on objectivity and how to construct a story in ways to AVOID media bias.

That all went out the window when George Soros started buying up the medis.


Professionalism in the media requires a theme of impartiality. Yet the pretense of objectivity can easily be cast aside within a factionalized society - whether this be in the media, education or most dangerously, the scientific world.
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WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Rumple4skin: Professionalism in the media requires a theme of impartiality. Yet the pretense of objectivity can easily be cast aside within a factionalized society - whether this be in the media, education or most dangerously, the scientific world.


thumbs up It's highly dangerous in all of those institutions. thumbs up
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TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
While Obama prepares for his final debate.....event around the world continue to spin out of control

NKorea threatens SKorea with military hostilities is leaflet from the south are sent north over the DMZ



A large car bomb was detonate in Beruit, the first in many years. It killed the Lebanon prosecutor that had connected the Syrians and Assad to the PM Raferkiti death years before. It happened near a school just as the student were being released.



Iran says Israel did it



At lease it was not a movie trailer.......

Here in the US....violent crime had it first increase in 20 years....it was up 18% and non violent crimes was up 11%



So why? Maybe because the poor economy has 47m drawing food stamps and one in 16 under the poverty line. And a President Obama that made division in the country between wealthy and poor....it is easier to pull that trigger when the person has been dehumanized....
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WhatUwish4: I routinely scan about 200 news articles a day from all the sources. I start with AOL/Huffington Post, then move to Fox, then CNN, CBS, the White House sites, and media throughout the world. Then I pick the stories apart for "spin" and find the common ground of the facts. In this case, we now have the published e-mails and cables, plus what we all saw on national TV and what came out of Obama's mouth personally.Some things just can't be covered up, much to mainstream media's distress.


thumbs up good for you to keep so on top of the news and read and analyze the content from many sources - and to see you so passionate about politics -

You are putting a lot on one man - he is just the elected leader - he is not the be all or end all and electing a president matters - but not as much as you are making out to be.

Action is key to a good president not words - I believe the actions and direction that Obama have taken have been setting us as a nation in the right direction. It is also up to each of us to work in our communities and at home to make it better for us. the republican policies are old, outdated and won't work in our global economy.

and another thing....... everyone talks about less government more private - when the budgets to government is reduced you are talking about laying off, putting out of work - librarians, police, water and sewer technicians, engineers, biologists, doctors - all who work in a government capacity. Not politicians - real bonofide americans who are paid with our tax dollars - the republicans want to fire them - and call it reducing government budgets -
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