Catalonia will be independent? ( Archived) (25)

Oct 25, 2012 4:42 PM CSTCatalonia will be independent?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts

Catalonia will be independent?(Vote Below)

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YES
17
28%
NO
16
27%
I DON'T KNOW
27
45%
Total Votes
60
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It's where I live, and I do not know what will happen. I think that's what most people want but the government of Spain says it will not tolerate it.
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Oct 25, 2012 4:49 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
GUZMAN1: The independentist flagIt's where I live, and I do not know what will happen. I think that's what most people want but the government of Spain says it will not tolerate it.


Better get my passport renewed in case I'm up your waydunno
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Oct 25, 2012 4:54 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
zmountainman: Better get my passport renewed in case I'm up your way


I have my passport expired, so I will wait to renew it once I know what will happen.

Maybe I can have dual nationality, Spanish and Catalan.laugh
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Oct 25, 2012 4:59 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
GUZMAN1: I have my passport expired, so I will wait to renew it once I know what will happen.

Maybe I can have dual nationality, Spanish and Catalan.
rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 25, 2012 5:21 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
Never heard of it.
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Oct 25, 2012 5:27 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
i stayed in sitges for six months (many years ago).
lovely place...went there for a week and ended up there
much longer...laugh
curious to know...
how would independence effect you?
what are your thoughts on this issue?
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Oct 25, 2012 5:35 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
HuggerMan4U: Never heard of it.


Washington ? Never heard of itbanana
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Oct 25, 2012 5:46 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
jono7: i stayed in sitges for six months (many years ago).
lovely place...went there for a week and ended up there
much longer...
curious to know...
how would independence effect you?
what are your thoughts on this issue?


Not affect me much if it does not create economic problems.

I belong to the large minority who speaks preferably Spanish, and that's the only reason I would change my opinion. But for years the Catalan is considered something like the first official language, and Spanish politicians have done nothing to change that, so the independence will mean nothing in my daily life.

Emotional reasons I care little, I was born in Spain so I´ll do not lose my nationality.
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Oct 26, 2012 1:26 AM CST Catalonia will be independent?
GreenBoots
GreenBootsGreenBootsBuenos Aires, Argentina8 Threads 6 Polls 202 Posts
Tongue + Xoxo : pleasure
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Oct 28, 2012 4:21 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
GreenBoots: Tongue + Xoxo : pleasure
Bye bye greenboots
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Sep 11, 2013 3:35 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts




Human chain of hundreds of thousands catalans for independence.

In Madrid, the catalan delegation has been attacked in revenge by members of Falange (The Phalanx), the extreme right party of the dictatorship of General Franco, which is still legal in Spain.
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Sep 11, 2013 7:00 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
janie1305
janie1305janie1305Southampton, Hampshire, England UK16 Threads 916 Posts
I live in the south of Spain and independence is not wanted or supported in general.I think most people have accepted that it will happen but they certainly don't like it.

It's rather sad for me as a Brit in Spain for many years that there is such a division.
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Sep 12, 2013 2:54 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
janie1305: I live in the south of Spain and independence is not wanted or supported in general.I think most people have accepted that it will happen but they certainly don't like it.

It's rather sad for me as a Brit in Spain for many years that there is such a division.


Imagine the people who lives in Catalonia and disagree with independence, like me.
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Sep 12, 2013 3:01 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
As a visitor to your lovely country,i wouldnt like to see it happen.I think Spain needs to pull together in these difflecult times,and not add any more problems to an already troubled nation.cheers
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Sep 12, 2013 3:37 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
GUZMAN1: The independentist flagIt's where I live, and I do not know what will happen. I think that's what most people want but the government of Spain says it will not tolerate it.
if catalans want it,why not?
if Andorra with its only 85 tousand people is independent ,then why catalonia with its 7 and half million shouldnt be independent?
I always say.Any nation over a million population deserves its own independent republic.So they got my support.
But where Barcelona FC will play then?They ll lose their competition with strong spanish teams in la liga.
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Sep 12, 2013 3:39 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
GUZMAN1: Imagine the people who lives in Catalonia and disagree with independence, like me.


thumbs up hope not. we need a stronger Spain...
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Sep 12, 2013 3:40 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
zmountainman: Washington ? Never heard of it

New York? never heard of it.laugh
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Sep 13, 2013 4:14 AM CST Catalonia will be independent?
Glitch101
Glitch101Glitch101London, Greater London, England UK21 Threads 1,079 Posts
Good Morning Guzman.

The history of the Catalan region is very complex,and the people are extremely proud of their roots, as are the Basques.

The region is well advanced economically compared to the rest of Spain,so I would imagine that the Spanish Government would fight to keep the region under it's umbrella.

Barcelona as the capitol of the region,it's port which attracts huge income from visiting cruise liners, and the beaches of the Costa Brava, another magnet for tourism,are another good reason to hold on to what would appear to be the jewel in the crown of Spain's crumbling economy.

In my humble opinion I think that it would be a shame to cut a swathe into Spain as a country,but one has to consider the people of the region and their own desires.

They certainly are capable of self government that's for sure.handshake
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Sep 13, 2013 4:17 AM CST Catalonia will be independent?
lovemedofr
lovemedofrlovemedofrbeautiful place, Nouvelle-Aquitaine France2 Threads 1,224 Posts
How about the Basque Land ... strange status, half French-half Spanish wink laugh conversing
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Sep 14, 2013 12:10 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
Azul_cielo
Azul_cieloAzul_cieloCuernavaca, Morelos Mexico197 Posts
"Divide y vencerás"
Saludos
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May 25, 2014 3:09 PM CST Catalonia will be independent?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
GUZMAN1: The independentist flagIt's where I live, and I do not know what will happen. I think that's what most people want but the government of Spain says it will not tolerate it.


After so much blood wasted in the civil war of Spain; what for to continue with the “independence” of some regions, not only Catalonia but the Basque region as well.

To my understanding is that those regions have their own flag and they use their own language as the first, being Spanish the "second"-


Why would those regions want independence from Spain in this time?

Because their leftist tendency?
Because they do not want a monarchy?
Because economics?

Why?

and would that be good for Spain as a country?


wave
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Jul 5, 2014 11:21 AM CST Catalonia will be independent?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
What is the status of the Cataluña region -from your point of view- regarding its independence, Guzmán?



coffee
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Oct 1, 2017 11:02 AM CST Catalonia will be independent?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
Catalonia's government has called a referendum on leaving Spain for today.

The Spanish Government has rejected the vote as illegal and the courts have ordered a halt. But there is a campaign for disobeying and voting in improvised voting points.

There are protesters in the streets and near 400 were injured struggling with the police.
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Oct 1, 2017 11:10 AM CST Catalonia will be independent?
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
I cannot vote yeah or nay as i do not live there. I do remember a touring holiday and out Spanish guide was very disrespectful to our guide going through Catalonia that was 12years ago so discord has been going on a long time.

The violence from the police has been disgusting and Government leaders should be letting the Spanish no
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Oct 1, 2017 11:23 AM CST Catalonia will be independent?
daniela777
daniela777daniela777Mi Paraiso, Murcia Spain44 Threads 2,714 Posts
I agree with this.thumbs up

Next it will be the pais basco
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