Should there be Compulsory Drug Testing for People to Receive their Government Payments? (18)
Since most places of employment test people before they hire them and once they're hired the same should apply to the ones receiving Government benefits.
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Austgirl71: Im interested to find out if people are fore or against compulsory drug tests for people to be able to receive their government handout or payments.
Heck, most governments don't test their employees as a requirement for employment and employees do less work than those on some kind of public assistance... So, I'd say no.... Unless everyone else receiving government money are tested. Jest my two-cents.
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galrads: Heck, most governments don't test their employees as a requirement for employment and employees do less work than those on some kind of public assistance... So, I'd say no.... Unless everyone else receiving government money are tested. Jest my two-cents.
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I think we should have compulsory drug testing for elected officials.
I'm not so familiar with your Australian benefits system. Here in the US, individuals do not get any "handouts" -- those are reserved for automakers, and banks. We do have a system called Social Security, by which the elderly receive "payments." But those are no handout either; everyone pays taxes into that fund all their working life. Perhaps you mean something like the progam we have here, in each individual state, generally called "Food Stamps"? (Although actual stamps are no longer used.) Those are not payments either; they can only be redeemed for food, in a noble effort to ensure no one goes hungry just because they lost their job or had other hard luck.
In any case, "the government" is us, and it does nothing unless we collectively say so.
I'm not so familiar with your Australian benefits system. Here in the US, individuals do not get any "handouts" -- those are reserved for automakers, and banks. We do have a system called Social Security, by which the elderly receive "payments." But those are no handout either; everyone pays taxes into that fund all their working life. Perhaps you mean something like the progam we have here, in each individual state, generally called "Food Stamps"? (Although actual stamps are no longer used.) Those are not payments either; they can only be redeemed for food, in a noble effort to ensure no one goes hungry just because they lost their job or had other hard luck.
In any case, "the government" is us, and it does nothing unless we collectively say so.
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Dagosto: I think we should have compulsory drug testing for elected officials.
I'm not so familiar with your Australian benefits system. Here in the US, individuals do not get any "handouts" -- those are reserved for automakers, and banks. We do have a system called Social Security, by which the elderly receive "payments." But those are no handout either; everyone pays taxes into that fund all their working life. Perhaps you mean something like the progam we have here, in each individual state, generally called "Food Stamps"? (Although actual stamps are no longer used.) Those are not payments either; they can only be redeemed for food, in a noble effort to ensure no one goes hungry just because they lost their job or had other hard luck.
In any case, "the government" is us, and it does nothing unless we collectively say so.
I'm not so familiar with your Australian benefits system. Here in the US, individuals do not get any "handouts" -- those are reserved for automakers, and banks. We do have a system called Social Security, by which the elderly receive "payments." But those are no handout either; everyone pays taxes into that fund all their working life. Perhaps you mean something like the progam we have here, in each individual state, generally called "Food Stamps"? (Although actual stamps are no longer used.) Those are not payments either; they can only be redeemed for food, in a noble effort to ensure no one goes hungry just because they lost their job or had other hard luck.
In any case, "the government" is us, and it does nothing unless we collectively say so.
Well this would not happen in the UK or Finland.
But America I don't know, would you test all the pensioners, and old people who rely on social security benefits, what about all the people on disabled benefits, why not marginalise them a bit more because they are not productive.
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NO there should NOT be compulsory drug testing for people receiving government benefits. First of all, it violates their civil liberties. People should not have to be forced to undergo testing just because they are poor and need assistance. Second of all, if you threw all the addicts off of government payrolls, they would just start robbing houses and cars and pedestrians for the money they need to live on and to stay wasted. Third of all, the next step would be arrest. Then the taxpayers would be paying a fortune to keep a bunch of mostly harmless addicts in prison. Why can't this country adopt a more European approach to addicts, such as more free Methodone clinics and free voluntary outpatient rehab treatment? In fact, pot is becoming legal in some states. Alcohol is legal. Does the government have the right to say that poor people can't use legal substances? Since when did poor people lose all their rights? 
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tomcatwarne: Well this would not happen in the UK or Finland.
But America I don't know, would you test all the pensioners, and old people who rely on social security benefits, what about all the people on disabled benefits, why not marginalise them a bit more because they are not productive.
But America I don't know, would you test all the pensioners, and old people who rely on social security benefits, what about all the people on disabled benefits, why not marginalise them a bit more because they are not productive.
Gee Tom, perhaps you didn't notice the O/P is in Australia, and you quoted MY post defending the US?
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Dagosto: Gee Tom, perhaps you didn't notice the O/P is in Australia, and you quoted MY post defending the US?
Semantics,
other people have the same opinion as me , so what.
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Spot-on, Witchay, except you neglected to mention the taxpayer would get stuck with the cost of all that needless testing to begin with.
Witchaywoman: NO there should NOT be compulsory drug testing for people receiving government benefits. First of all, it violates their civil liberties. People should not have to be forced to undergo testing just because they are poor and need assistance. Second of all, if you threw all the addicts off of government payrolls, they would just start robbing houses and cars and pedestrians for the money they need to live on and to stay wasted. Third of all, the next step would be arrest. Then the taxpayers would be paying a fortune to keep a bunch of mostly harmless addicts in prison. Why can't this country adopt a more European approach to addicts, such as more free Methodone clinics and free voluntary outpatient rehab treatment? In fact, pot is becoming legal in some states. Alcohol is legal. Does the government have the right to say that poor people can't use legal substances? Since when did poor people lose all their rights?
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Dagosto: Spot-on, Witchay, except you neglected to mention the taxpayer would get stuck with the cost of all that needless testing to begin with.
Are you sure you want to argue along the lines of what the taxpayer would get stuck with? Bridges to nowhere, $ 20,000 hammers, pointless wars, and such come to mind
Money has been spent on far worse.------ This poll is Archived ------
Witchaywoman: NO there should NOT be compulsory drug testing for people receiving government benefits. First of all, it violates their civil liberties. People should not have to be forced to undergo testing just because they are poor and need assistance. Second of all, if you threw all the addicts off of government payrolls, they would just start robbing houses and cars and pedestrians for the money they need to live on and to stay wasted. Third of all, the next step would be arrest. Then the taxpayers would be paying a fortune to keep a bunch of mostly harmless addicts in prison. Why can't this country adopt a more European approach to addicts, such as more free Methodone clinics and free voluntary outpatient rehab treatment? In fact, pot is becoming legal in some states. Alcohol is legal. Does the government have the right to say that poor people can't use legal substances? Since when did poor people lose all their rights?
There are different government benefits: Social Secuity and Unemployment, Food Stamps for starters.
I am collecting Social Security and I don't think the government has a right to drug test me because I collect. I worked all these years and paid into the Social Security system so the benefit is my right.
When I lost my job I collected Unemployment. IF I was a drug user I still don't think they would have a right to drug test me because I paid into Unemployment since the program started.
However, if I was getting food stamps from the government, then I think it would be appropriate to drug test anyone who gets food stamps or any other kind of financial handout. If they can afford drugs then they can affrd to buy their own food.
Last year a woman was collecting food stamps and won a lot of money in the lottery. She never told the government to stop sending her food stamps. Eventually she was found out.
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Poll: Should there be Compulsory Drug Testing for People to Receive their Government Payments?
I'm against compulsory drugs altogether.
I'm against compulsory drugs altogether.
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Ccincy: Since most places of employment test people before they hire them and once they're hired the same should apply to the ones receiving Government benefits.
Many years ago I heard one Govt. official speculate that drugs for social welfare recipients should be mandatory as they wouldn't know or care if they got any and that eventually they'd die sooner and the benefits would stop, eventually saving millions of dollars going to the totally useless...interesting concept...
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RayfromUSA: Poll: Should there be Compulsory Drug Testing for People to Receive their Government Payments?
I'm against compulsory drugs altogether.
I'm against compulsory drugs altogether.
Me too. Drugs are too expensive to be compulsory.
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Austgirl71: Im interested to find out if people are fore or against compulsory drug tests for people to be able to receive their government handout or payments.
the governments always want to add strings to the taxpayers money - like it will hold one set of people - the poor - to a higher standards then the others.
I think there should be compulsory drug tests before our legislators and politicians draft laws, rules or address congress on national interests - including tests for alcohol.
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There'd be a bloodbath if they tried anything like compulsory drug tests. You'd be lumping many employed recreational drug users together with longterm unemployed junkies. There is a very real problem here, but this is no solution, and there is a better way of striking at the scum of society than this.
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I think if your going 2 have the testing inforced, then you would have 2 also have rehabilitation clinics and extremely good support system in place, Also the mental health system would have 2 also be first class. So many issues and the cost would be epic!!!!!! 
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JeanKimberley: the governments always want to add strings to the taxpayers money - like it will hold one set of people - the poor - to a higher standards then the others.
I think there should be compulsory drug tests before our legislators and politicians draft laws, rules or address congress on national interests - including tests for alcohol.
I think there should be compulsory drug tests before our legislators and politicians draft laws, rules or address congress on national interests - including tests for alcohol.
I agree Jean and compulsory drug testing for all people who own weapon licences. And people who run for public office, oh hell for everyone
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