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Feb 7, 2013 6:55 AM CST9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
Oblivion1000
Oblivion1000Oblivion1000Kerry, Ireland3 Threads 3 Polls 3 Posts

9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso(Vote Below)

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At the end of the day whats 3000 people, they have killed 100,000's more in the middle east... People are plenty, oil is becoming scarce.
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Feb 7, 2013 6:59 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Oblivion1000: At the end of the day whats 3000 people, they have killed 100,000's more in the middle east... People are plenty, oil is becoming scarce.




Does it really matter anyway?It's obvious it won't bring all those people back.
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Feb 7, 2013 7:00 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
What oil did they gain exactly?
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Feb 7, 2013 7:05 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
EnglishinHolland
EnglishinHollandEnglishinHollandAmsterdam, North Holland Netherlands187 Posts
I take it you are new to CS?

This subject has been posted many times, no agreement as yet, why thrash it out yet again? Or are we once again to await the arrival of the conspiracy theorists?
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Feb 7, 2013 7:05 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
OkieChic
OkieChicOkieChicOklahoma City, Oklahoma USA11 Threads 4 Polls 649 Posts
Oblivion1000: At the end of the day whats 3000 people, they have killed 100,000's more in the middle east... People are plenty, oil is becoming scarce.



the only problem I have believing this is they tried in 1993 to attack WTC---plus do you really think the government allowed al qaeda to attack us? I just really don't think so---

there are a lot of suspicious things surrounding 9-11...

I don't believe the "oil" situation...we have an abundance of oil here in the states...just certain politicians not allowing the drilling, we don't NEED the middle east's oil

JMO wave
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Feb 7, 2013 7:10 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
OkieChic: the only problem I have believing this is they tried in 1993 to attack WTC---plus do you really think the government allowed al qaeda to attack us? I just really don't think so---

there are a lot of suspicious things surrounding 9-11...

I don't believe the "oil" situation...we have an abundance of oil here in the states...just certain politicians not allowing the drilling, we don't NEED the middle east's oil

JMO


Im only speculating, but i think the only reason why they wont allow drilling in the U.S. is because politicians know that at some point oil is going to run out, and if you're living in a country that still has some, guess who gets to dictate what price should be paid for oil?
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Feb 7, 2013 7:12 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
Oblivion1000: At the end of the day whats 3000 people, they have killed 100,000's more in the middle east... People are plenty, oil is becoming scarce.


are we playing who is better or who does more damage in the world, or who should be canonized for a martyr's death?

There is no "end of the day" analysis in this case - each mass death is a stand alone issue. To suggest that 3,000 should be compared to 100,000 is just........ a stupid argument.... a stupid, stupid argument....
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Feb 7, 2013 7:16 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
OkieChic: the only problem I have believing this is they tried in 1993 to attack WTC---plus do you really think the government allowed al qaeda to attack us? I just really don't think so---

there are a lot of suspicious things surrounding 9-11...

I don't believe the "oil" situation...we have an abundance of oil here in the states...just certain politicians not allowing the drilling, we don't NEED the middle east's oil

JMO




You know I could never figure out if the US has all this abundance of oil why our political figures won't/wouldn't tap into it.

Also look at the price of oil per barrel.Puzzling.
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Feb 7, 2013 7:17 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
OkieChic
OkieChicOkieChicOklahoma City, Oklahoma USA11 Threads 4 Polls 649 Posts
DjWabbet: Im only speculating, but i think the only reason why they wont allow drilling in the U.S. is because politicians know that at some point oil is going to run out, and if you're living in a country that still has some, guess who gets to dictate what price should be paid for oil?



well, as true as that maybe, it's always nice to have an ace in the hole....nothings ever going to replace oil, however, with natural gas and electric cars, the need is getting less...so not even sure thats argumentive dunno
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Feb 7, 2013 7:20 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
I believe 9/11 happened because it was a sigh from GOD that HE is taking away his protection to US. so was sandy a wake up call to show who is really running this world. by BTW AMERICA was dedicated to GOD, based on faith in GOD. AMEN.
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Feb 7, 2013 7:23 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
OkieChic
OkieChicOkieChicOklahoma City, Oklahoma USA11 Threads 4 Polls 649 Posts
Ccincy: You know I could never figure out if the US has all this abundance of oil why our political figures won't/wouldn't tap into it.

Also look at the price of oil per barrel.Puzzling.



I know it's outrageous!! I know you don't like me talking about what I hear on the news (lol) but on a local news they were reporting of all this drilling in Oklahoma is what has sparked these minor earthquakes...ok to me that is rubbish..we all know the '20's marked the "oil boom" here and I don't think any earthquakes were occuring then..I think why we are not tapping into it is because like what was said awhile ago...preserving it for the future dunno
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Feb 7, 2013 7:24 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
OkieChic
OkieChicOkieChicOklahoma City, Oklahoma USA11 Threads 4 Polls 649 Posts
stringman: I believe 9/11 happened because it was a sigh from GOD that HE is taking away his protection to US. so was sandy a wake up call to show who is really running this world. by BTW AMERICA was dedicated to GOD, based on faith in GOD. AMEN.


me too stringman thumbs up
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Feb 7, 2013 7:24 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Ah another 911 truther.......when will the world be gone with them? I know each has his theory to the events of the day. They know more than the 911 Commission, the CIA, the FBI, the Department of Defense Intelligence Service, the New York State investigation of 911 and the multitude of United States government agencies that invesitgated the event.

They even know more than bin Laden and alQeada. For the bin Laden documents taken at his Abbottsbad compound implicating them in the 911 attack. From his video statement taking responsibility for the attack.
They even know more than the GITMO alQeada detianees...tried and being tried for involvement in the attack. Many of whom have admitted guilt.

Ah so the 911 truther knows something......that we don't. He has found that single key piece of evidence that implicates the Bush administration into the 911 event. And none of the rest of the evidence, investigations, court trials and admissions of guilt.....matter. Because he has the truth......
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Feb 7, 2013 7:26 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
OkieChic: I know it's outrageous!! I know you don't like me talking about what I hear on the news (lol) but on a local news they were reporting of all this drilling in Oklahoma is what has sparked these minor earthquakes...ok to me that is rubbish..we all know the '20's marked the "oil boom" here and I don't think any earthquakes were occuring then..I think why we are not tapping into it is because like what was said awhile ago...preserving it for the future




Bet I can guess for who's future too.


laugh
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Feb 7, 2013 7:29 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
stringman: I believe 9/11 happened because it was a sigh from GOD that HE is taking away his protection to US. so was sandy a wake up call to show who is really running this world. by BTW AMERICA was dedicated to GOD, based on faith in GOD. AMEN.


So why the 911 cross left at the ground zero site? I see it just the opposite. That by making the ground zero cross in the midst of the destruction that day, God was saying he was there and will be there in the future to America.

The only way that the 911 Cross was formed 100s of tons of debrie fell on it.....was a act of God.
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Feb 7, 2013 7:31 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
Hunibabs
HunibabsHunibabsWestmeath, Ireland2 Threads 71 Posts
Ccincy: Does it really matter anyway?It's obvious it won't bring all those people back.


Totally agree hug thumbs up
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Feb 7, 2013 7:39 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
Pulease,NOT another Truth-Commission!rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 7, 2013 7:41 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Conrad73: Pulease,NOT another Truth-Commission!


Ah common Conrad.....we can "debunk" another one......
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Feb 7, 2013 7:42 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
TTom50: So why the 911 cross left at the ground zero site? I see it just the opposite. That by making the ground zero cross in the midst of the destruction that day, God was saying he was there and will be there in the future to America.

The only way that the 911 Cross was formed 100s of tons of debrie fell on it.....was a act of God.


yes I see the cross as a sighn from GOD. yes GOD is still watching over AMERICA for now. but I believe HE wants AMERICA to turn back to GOD, AMERICA is turning away from GOD and it starts in the white house.
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Feb 7, 2013 7:44 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
OkieChic
OkieChicOkieChicOklahoma City, Oklahoma USA11 Threads 4 Polls 649 Posts
Ccincy: Bet I can guess for who's future too.


me too!
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Feb 7, 2013 7:47 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Oblivion1000: At the end of the day whats 3000 people, they have killed 100,000's more in the middle east... People are plenty, oil is becoming scarce.


please Forgive me Father for which I`m about to do ...

Bash America...dancing

unless I get bribed ...grin
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Feb 7, 2013 7:55 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
stringman: yes I see the cross as a sighn from GOD. yes GOD is still watching over AMERICA for now. but I believe HE wants AMERICA to turn back to GOD, AMERICA is turning away from GOD and it starts in the white house.


I have come to see the 911 cross being there as a comfort the 911 victim's families.

It took me a while to get there in that thinking. But ever since the Christ's cross at Calvary, that is what the cross has represented. God's comfort and his redemption with a risen Christ.

This view comes one person at a time, I think. Each as to his/her faith and walk with God and Christ. Changing of hearts, one person at a time. So you cannot expect all 312m Americans t have the same view point or belief.

But if bin Laden thought he was striking at America's faith with the 911 attack. God had something else in mind for that tragic day. When he made that 911 Cross, he made Christian believers across this country......across the world even.
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Feb 7, 2013 8:15 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Boban1: Forgive me Father for which I`m about to do ...

Bash America...

unless I get bribed ...


We can send you some of the US shale oil ....that might sooth you some.
But since we are on the topic. Shale oil reserves were well known prior to 911. The Government knew of the western shale oil fields of Wyoming and Colorado from the 1970s. They had drilling in the Wyoming shale fields as early as 1980s. I had a buddy that worked in them.

So with a massive shale reserves in the country. With shale drilling techniques being developed.....why does the US need Afghan or Iraqi oil?

Also a Wall Street Journal article.....said of the 12 oil contract rm. Only 1...a small one called a currency contract went to a United States firm.

In 2008 Iraqi oil contract went to Shell, BP, Total, Exxon Mobil, Chevron


In 2009 of the 18 Iraqi oil contracts, only 2 went to US firms.


In 2011, China became a big player in Iraqi oil


So if the Iraqi oil contract are not going to American firms that refine and market in the US.....how is the US benefiting from Iraq's oil in the long term? Iraqi control their oil contracts...not the US.
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Feb 7, 2013 8:29 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
OkieChic: me too stringman


I agree, Too bad Clinton was too busy with Monica when Pakistan was going to give Osama over to us, and Clinton basically said no thanks. When someone brings up the "inside Job" bs, they have no clue as to what the terrorists are doing, I wonder if those who think it was a inside job are supporters of terrorism.
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Feb 7, 2013 8:30 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Since we are all on 911 and energy. I just thought some opinions on the Supreme Leader Khatenie rejection of one on one talks with the United States on Iranian nuclear programs would of interest.

If you have not been following this. Last week VP Biden opened the door to one on one talks between the two countries. This has been something Tehran was positive to in the past.

But suddenly the Supreme Leader Katenie quashes the idea....saying such talks are "like the United States placing a gun to the head of Iran." A little over the top, I might say there.



Anyways, Iran has been convicted in a US court as having great involvement in 911. The 911 families got a 2b dollar settlement.


The 911 families say that Iran knew and aided in the 911 attack. That later after Afghanistan fell, bin Laden sends 4 sons and a daughter to Tehran.....for "safe keeping", we say. Tehran says "House arrest". But the daughter slips from Tehran custody onday a few years ago....and flees to the Saudi Embassy (our old embassy in Tehran). Were she has been ever since.

The Iranian will not let her out of the country. For some reason...like she knows to much maybe?

So if you really wish to be a 'truther' about 911.....maybe went get the stories from bin Laden's children in Tehran.....we will get a much clearer view of the truth of 911.
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Feb 7, 2013 9:03 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
Mysst
MysstMysstSpringfield, Missouri USA8 Threads 1 Polls 181 Posts
Like all wars, something must trigger them, 911 was a trigger to set in motion by the military industrial complex, to give another infusion to its shareholders and set in motion a new more creative way of staying in the pocket of the taxpayer as they seize control of the US and launch their Skynet drone squadron and make us all the terrorists...

its politically and financially easier to keep a war on your own soil than it is to keep it abroad and now that they've trained and worked all the bugs out in the middle east, its time to come home and open shop

911 is what it is...a financial trigger.

just follow the money...have a peak into the bush family holdings and profits wink
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Feb 7, 2013 10:55 AM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
TTom50: China got the contract award for the world biggest copper mine in Afghanistan, Boban. The US firms bid it, but came in second place.

Controlling the oil market? Boban there are only 16m Iraqi.....they don't have that many vehicles. Sure Sadam was giving them gas at 10 cents a gallon. But the price of a gallon of gas in Iraq today is much less what you or I pay.

And in Afghanistan, there are fewer autos and drivers than in Iraq. They ride camels and buorrughs. So who wants to control the world poorest countries energy market? Not sure the the US will pay for its 16t debt that way......))

Under your theory....we should have invade Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf countries. They got plenty of expensive cars there.

I saw lot of Iraqi on the streets knocking Sadam Hussien statutes after Baghdad fell. So enslaving? I saw lot of purple thumbs after the Iraqi and Afghan elections....


Nice ,thats an awesome post and Im sure that people who have been in come for the last 60 years or came to earth just yesterday without any previous knowledge about the third rock from the sun, will be trilled ... America has a certain Interest in Iraq,Afghanistan , Libya,Yemen,Jordan Syria, Bahrain and so on
either directly or via proxies
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Feb 7, 2013 2:03 PM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
TTom50: Ah another 911 truther...They know more than the 911 Commission, the CIA, the FBI, the Department of Defense Intelligence Service, the New York State investigation of 911 and the multitude of United States government agencies that invesitgated the event.


It's not that the truthers know more than the actual perpetrators and conspirators you mention.

But they are more sincere in their attempts to expose the truth.
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Feb 7, 2013 2:31 PM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
TTom50: ...So if the Iraqi oil contract are not going to American firms that refine and market in the US.....how is the US benefiting from Iraq's oil in the long term? Iraqi control their oil contracts...not the US.


The reason for invading Iraq was not to get oil contracts for American firms. It was to guarantee that the money from Iraq's oil revenue went to further globalist plans rather than to improve the lot of the Iraqi people.

The guy the US put into power in Iraq, Talabani (that name has to be a joke) is a stooge. Just like Karsai whom they put into power in Afghanistan. The latter was actually a former executive for the US oil company Unoco and had been part of the initial team that planned out the oil pipeline now being constructed in Afghanistan by US companies. That pipeline was the real reason that the US wanted to invade Afghanistan in the first place. That and opium poppies.
911 was just the very convenient excuse.

As for Talibani, he's not even really an Iraqi, he's a Kurd seperatist from the part of Iraq that has been fighting against Iraq for 50 years. It's like as if the Russians invaded the US and set up an illegal alien Mexican who wanted to reclaim the western half of the US for Mexico as US president..

Talibani does not in any way represent Iraq's interests. He is a foreign dictator ruling over a conquered nation.

So stop pretending that Iraq has any independence whatsoever. It's not true.
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Feb 7, 2013 3:55 PM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
RayfromUSA: The reason for invading Iraq was not to get oil contracts for American firms. It was to guarantee that the money from Iraq's oil revenue went to further globalist plans rather than to improve the lot of the Iraqi people.

The guy the US put into power in Iraq, Talabani (that name has to be a joke) is a stooge. Just like Karsai whom they put into power in Afghanistan. The latter was actually a former executive for the US oil company Unoco and had been part of the initial team that planned out the oil pipeline now being constructed in Afghanistan by US companies. That pipeline was the real reason that the US wanted to invade Afghanistan in the first place. That and opium poppies.
911 was just the very convenient excuse.

As for Talibani, he's not even really an Iraqi, he's a Kurd seperatist from the part of Iraq that has been fighting against Iraq for 50 years. It's like as if the Russians invaded the US and set up an illegal alien Mexican who wanted to reclaim the western half of the US for Mexico as US president..

Talibani does not in any way represent Iraq's interests. He is a foreign dictator ruling over a conquered nation.

So stop pretending that Iraq has any independence whatsoever. It's not true.


So the Iraqi don't get a share of the oil wealth of the country Ray?
~thomph1/iraq.htm

If these projections are correct in 20 years the per capita income of the Iraqi oil will be $300,000 per person. Today's Iraqi has a income average of $8000 per year. Tha $300,000 per person income will make the Iraqi one of the richest countries in the middle east.

That is assuming that the Shia Iraqi government which controls the distribution of the oil wealth will share it. Which given the division of Shia, Sunni and Kurd is a real issue and question.

In fact the Kurds are now planning their own pipeline thru Turkey to carry Kurdish crude.

The one thing that is certain, the Sadam Hussien would not allowed the Kurds to have thier own pipeline. Heck the Iraqi Shia don't want them to have it.

So let us both admit.....that if Sadam Hussien was still in power....the sharing of Iraqi oil wealth would not happen. It would
go into another 30 or 40 lavish palaces for his family. Heck he only had 27 of them, some now being turned in Museums and public places for the Iraqi.

I don't know how this is going to play out. I doubt if any one does. But leaving Sadam Hussien in power was not going to benefit the Iraqi people that he was using chemical weapons on. So he was not going to share the wealth......or to allow them to develop the oil resources of the country for their benefit.
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Feb 7, 2013 4:19 PM CST 9/11 was an inside job, fabricated to justify an invasion of the middle east to obtain precious reso
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
TTom50: So the Iraqi don't get a share of the oil wealth of the country Ray?
~thomph1/iraq.htm

If these projections are correct in 20 years the per capita income of the Iraqi oil will be $300,000 per person. Today's Iraqi has a income average of $8000 per year. Tha $300,000 per person income will make the Iraqi one of the richest countries in the middle east.

That is assuming that the Shia Iraqi government which controls the distribution of the oil wealth will share it. Which given the division of Shia, Sunni and Kurd is a real issue and question.

In fact the Kurds are now planning their own pipeline thru Turkey to carry Kurdish crude.

The one thing that is certain, the Sadam Hussien would not allowed the Kurds to have thier own pipeline. Heck the Iraqi Shia don't want them to have it.

So let us both admit.....that if Sadam Hussien was still in power....the sharing of Iraqi oil wealth would not happen. It would
go into another 30 or 40 lavish palaces for his family. Heck he only had 27 of them, some now being turned in Museums and public places for the Iraqi.

I don't know how this is going to play out. I doubt if any one does. But leaving Sadam Hussien in power was not going to benefit the Iraqi people that he was using chemical weapons on. So he was not going to share the wealth......or to allow them to develop the oil resources of the country for their benefit.



Sadamm Hussein wanted to make sure his criminal acts continued after after his death and so he had his sons in training to continue torturing Iraqi citizens. They were animals and if they weren't killed it would be very different in Iraq today.
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