Your fiancee wants you to sign a prenuptial agreement. Will you? (69)
Sliprywnwt: So your fiancee, male or female, wants you to sign a prenuptial agreement before marriage.
Are you willing to? What kind of impact does this request have on you and your relationship?
well i say yes...... before sighing it, i sell everything, hide the money declair bankruptcy... then add extra extra fine print.... saying that if we split up then i become santa claws... and she get my secret money stash.Are you willing to? What kind of impact does this request have on you and your relationship?
oops sorry ... dosed off for a seccond ... um yess i sign it and all is well with the world
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ynotleon69: well i say yes...... before sighing it, i sell everything, hide the money declair bankruptcy... then add extra extra fine print.... saying that if we split up then i become santa claws... and she get my secret money stash. oops sorry ... dosed off for a seccond ... um yess i sign it and all is well with the world
You are the man with the plan!
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Sliprywnwt: You are the man with the plan!
plan ??? what plan??? ummmm errrr uhhh i wuz sleeping... realy im just glad no one can see my evil grin.------ This poll is Archived ------
I would insist
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Sliprywnwt: So your fiancee, male or female, wants you to sign a prenuptial agreement before marriage.
Are you willing to? What kind of impact does this request have on you and your relationship?
Are you willing to? What kind of impact does this request have on you and your relationship?
Of course, I would not do it any other way!
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I wont mind signing pre nuptial agreement i would insist he make one for me
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My guy and I wouldn't need one cause most of what we own we bought together.
We're not worried each other as we are about his family members.
We're not worried each other as we are about his family members.
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Ccincy: My guy and I wouldn't need one cause most of what we own we bought together.We're not worried each other as we are about his family members.
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Ccincy: My guy and I wouldn't need one cause most of what we own we bought together.We're not worried each other as we are about his family members.
That's refreshing.
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i'm not gonna sign a thing...
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uvektu: thats trusting
yup....
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online today!online today!pisceslady7Kincumber nr. Gosford, New South Wales Australia21 Threads 4 Polls 1,910 PostsAs I am 'extablished' and expect any man I am with would also be so I feel it is only right to sign one. It doesn't matter to me who has the most property, but they surely have the right to leave a relationship (high divorce rates..NOT negativity) with what they had when they entered it if there is a huge discrepancy. Whatever was earned when you are together should be shared.
IMHO
IMHO
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Sliprywnwt: So your fiancee, male or female, wants you to sign a prenuptial agreement before marriage.
Are you willing to? What kind of impact does this request have on you and your relationship?
I don't really plan on marrying again but if I did I would not mind signing one because I would insist he sign one Are you willing to? What kind of impact does this request have on you and your relationship?
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pisceslady7: As I am 'extablished' and expect any man I am with would also be so I feel it is only right to sign one. It doesn't matter to me who has the most property, but they surely have the right to leave a relationship (high divorce rates..NOT negativity) with what they had when they entered it if there is a huge discrepancy. Whatever was earned when you are together should be shared.
IMHO
IMHO
I kind of agree with what you are saying, except I would also want to leave with my whole and entire pension benefits, stocks and their income and my precious metals inventory.... as well as all of my guns, reloading equipment and armor.... because they were earned before the relationship.
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If either one of us are wealthy at the time, I would sign it without a second thought.
If we're not wealthy, and one of us wins the lottery in the future, it could be to my advantage if it's written properly. I would have an attorney make sure of that.
If we're not wealthy, and one of us wins the lottery in the future, it could be to my advantage if it's written properly. I would have an attorney make sure of that.
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online today!online today!pisceslady7Kincumber nr. Gosford, New South Wales Australia21 Threads 4 Polls 1,910 Postsgalrads: I kind of agree with what you are saying, except I would also want to leave with my whole and entire pension benefits, stocks and their income and my precious metals inventory.... as well as all of my guns, reloading equipment and armor.... because they were earned before the relationship.
If you care to read it again, what I said was....
“they surely have the right to leave a relationship (high divorce rates..NOT negativity) with what they had when they entered it....... IMHO”
Does that not cover what you just said as well???
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online today!online today!pisceslady7Kincumber nr. Gosford, New South Wales Australia21 Threads 4 Polls 1,910 Postslov8b: how about joint prenuptial agreement...
I thought ALL prenups were joint as each party is advised to have their own solicitor?
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pisceslady7: If you care to read it again, what I said was....
“they surely have the right to leave a relationship (high divorce rates..NOT negativity) with what they had when they entered it....... IMHO”
Does that not cover what you just said as well???
“they surely have the right to leave a relationship (high divorce rates..NOT negativity) with what they had when they entered it....... IMHO”
Does that not cover what you just said as well???
Well, I think, yes and no. Some here in the usa consider pensions new and ongoing earned income and others dont. If considered as "earned" it is also considered part of present day lifestyle making it a possible target for alimony. I think I should have used "especially" in my post.
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online today!online today!pisceslady7Kincumber nr. Gosford, New South Wales Australia21 Threads 4 Polls 1,910 Postsgalrads: Well, I think, yes and no. Some here in the usa consider pensions new and ongoing earned income and others dont. If considered as "earned" it is also considered part of present day lifestyle making it a possible target for alimony. I think I should have used "especially" in my post.
Here we have superannuation, and every worker has it. You can receive it as a lump sum or as a pension on retirement. It is considered joint marital property in a divorce...the same as the home, investments etc.
I feel that if a person marries some-one who already has a great deal of property, then it is intelligent to have pre-nups.
I know from experience, that the person you enter a relationship with is definitely not the person you part from years later!
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galrads: Well, I think, yes and no. Some here in the usa consider pensions new and ongoing earned income and others dont. If considered as "earned" it is also considered part of present day lifestyle making it a possible target for alimony. I think I should have used "especially" in my post.
I just learned yesterday that the contribution your employer makes to an employees medical insurance is now taxable.
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montemonte: I just learned yesterday that the contribution your employer makes to an employees medical insurance is now taxable.
OMG ! You are kidding! Right? My pension system currently pays 100% of my healthcare premium! I hope this tax doesn't apply to us pensioners. Will medicaide as well as medicare people also have to pay this new tax to. This must be part of how obama care is paid for!
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galrads: OMG ! You are kidding! Right? My pension system currently pays 100% of my healthcare premium! I hope this tax doesn't apply to us pensioners. Will medicaide as well as medicare people also have to pay this new tax to. This must be part of how obama care is paid for!
Not kidding.
I was emailing my daughter that I was thinking about having taxes come out of my Social Security cause last year I had to pay quite a bit to the IRS cause I didn’t have enough taxes taken out of my unemployment. My unemployment ended last May so I was afraid I was going to have to pay again for 2012 but I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that I’m getting a refund.
This is her exact quote “They’re going to tax what your employer pays for your medical insurance as untaxed income”. I don’t know if they will be taxing Medicare payments.
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montemonte: Not kidding.
I was emailing my daughter that I was thinking about having taxes come out of my Social Security cause last year I had to pay quite a bit to the IRS cause I didn’t have enough taxes taken out of my unemployment. My unemployment ended last May so I was afraid I was going to have to pay again for 2012 but I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that I’m getting a refund.
This is her exact quote “They’re going to tax what your employer pays for your medical insurance as untaxed income”. I don’t know if they will be taxing Medicare payments.
I was emailing my daughter that I was thinking about having taxes come out of my Social Security cause last year I had to pay quite a bit to the IRS cause I didn’t have enough taxes taken out of my unemployment. My unemployment ended last May so I was afraid I was going to have to pay again for 2012 but I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that I’m getting a refund.
This is her exact quote “They’re going to tax what your employer pays for your medical insurance as untaxed income”. I don’t know if they will be taxing Medicare payments.
Well if they don't tax actual federal healthcare medicare premiums they shouldn't be taxing my state pension paid healthcare premiums either ....
sorry OP, here's the the most recent information I find on this employer sponsored healthcare issue:
Half Of Americans Would See Their Taxes Go Up If This Obamacare Tax Hike Is Implemented
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR 12/25/12 12:09 PM ET EST
FOLLOW: Health Care Reform, Video, Business News, Obamacare, Obamacare Tax, Obamacare Tax Hike, Obamacare Taxes, Obamacare-Tax-On-The-Rich, Obamacare-Tax-Penalty, Obamacare-Taxes-2013, Business News
WASHINGTON — New taxes are coming Jan. 1 to help finance President Barack Obama's health care overhaul. Most people may not notice. But they will pay attention if Congress decides to start taxing employer-sponsored health insurance, one option in play if lawmakers can ever agree on a budget deal to reduce federal deficits.
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galrads: OMG ! You are kidding! Right? My pension system currently pays 100% of my healthcare premium! I hope this tax doesn't apply to us pensioners. Will medicaide as well as medicare people also have to pay this new tax to. This must be part of how obama care is paid for!
Texas retired teachers pay over $300.00 monthly for health insurance.
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galrads: OMG ! You are kidding! Right? My pension system currently pays 100% of my healthcare premium! I hope this tax doesn't apply to us pensioners. Will medicaide as well as medicare people also have to pay this new tax to. This must be part of how obama care is paid for!
Relax. For now, anyway. The amount of your insurance premium is not taxable, regardless of where it comes from, in part, or in whole. For instance, let's say you gross 2,000.00 in a month. Your total health premium is 500.00. Your employer pays half and you pay half. You are only taxed on 1,750.00 as income. If you were to pay the full 500.00, you would only be taxed on 1,500.00 as income. Accountants working for payroll deduct the non-taxable premium amounts before figuring the net. This is in the employees' favor.------ This poll is Archived ------
Sliprywnwt: So your fiancee, male or female, wants you to sign a prenuptial agreement before marriage.
Are you willing to? What kind of impact does this request have on you and your relationship?
Are you willing to? What kind of impact does this request have on you and your relationship?
Ordinarily, I wouldn't have a problem with this as I don't have anything to hide, I don't have a hidden agenda and I am not interested in anyone's money, assets or titles, etc.
However, call me old-fashioned... I would have serious doubts as to whether my hubby-to-be fully understood me, trusted me and who should be more interested in a mutual, jointly-ventured and equal relationship than what I was to gain should we part. I believe in looking to the future, of course, but not with a view that we may part and who's is who's and what belongs where.
Its all become very sad, hasn't it?
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freesparrow: Texas retired teachers pay over $300.00 monthly for health insurance.
Hi, freesparrow.
Retired teachers here, with more than 10-years service, pay nothing towards their health care premium until they turn 65 and on medicare. Their contribution amount may be changing too though, as other state retirees are now paying more
State teacher retirees here have had the best pension of any other public employee in Ohio. At one time their pension alone was spread equally over 12 monthly payments but they also received a 13th check (direct deposit) equalling one of the original twelve. Go figure.
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Your fiancee wants you to sign a prenuptial agreement. Will you?(Vote Below)
Are you willing to? What kind of impact does this request have on you and your relationship?