What Happened To The Kruger Millions? ( Archived) (18)

Mar 24, 2013 3:14 PM CSTWhat Happened To The Kruger Millions?
Whocanitbe
WhocanitbeWhocanitbeCape Town, Western Cape, South Africa1 Threads 1 Polls 9 Posts

What Happened To The Kruger Millions?(Vote Below)

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Nothing, It is just a story.
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Lord Milner stole it and blamed Kruger
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Paul Kruger gave it to his children.
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Paul Kruger blew it all in three years.
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Paul Kruger lost it in Monaco gambling
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It sits in a Swiss numbered account.
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It was buried in somewhere South Africa.
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I'm not sure.
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When the British captured the Transvaal mint at the end of the Boer war a lot of gold was missing. Only Paul Kruger could have taken it. He often was seen removing gold from the mint. Paul Kruger, a corrupt old man, was already a very rich man. He fled to Switzerland and died there three years after the war. Very little money was found in his house. What happened to all that money? And his personal wealth? Nothing was ever recovered.

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Mar 24, 2013 3:18 PM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
Wasn't Jan Smuts who led the gold away from the brits?
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Mar 24, 2013 3:57 PM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
Catfoot
CatfootCatfootAround here, Western Cape South Africa27 Threads 25 Polls 185 Posts
GUZMAN1: Wasn't Jan Smuts who led the gold away from the brits?


No, I don't think he was involved in this, Guzman.

We had an argument about this and now this fella is now upset with me. He’s trying to annoy me with this poll. Granted, Paul Kruger did some things wrong, like giving all the business concessions to his friends and family, but he did not steal the state’s money. He did travel around with lots of gold bullion and minted coins, but that was to pay his soldiers. Quite a few mercenaries too. French, German, Spanish and even a few Russians. Some with rank.

They were fighting a guerrilla war and he damn well could not pay them with cheques. The entire economy was destroyed. Only the gold mines were operating, mostly secretly. They had to buy food through Mozambique. With gold!
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Mar 24, 2013 4:02 PM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
Whocanitbe
WhocanitbeWhocanitbeCape Town, Western Cape South Africa1 Threads 1 Polls 9 Posts
come on now, your only covering up for your family. no need. this people died a long time ago. He did enrich himself on state money all the time. this poll can do no harm. i don't know why you duck and dive.
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Mar 24, 2013 4:05 PM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Buried somewhere in Kruger National Park.laugh :
Whocanitbe: When the British captured the Transvaal mint at the end of the Boer war a lot of gold was missing. Only Paul Kruger could have taken it. He often was seen removing gold from the mint. Paul Kruger, a corrupt old man, was already a very rich man. He fled to Switzerland and died there three years after the war. Very little money was found in his house. What happened to all that money? And his personal wealth? Nothing was ever recovered.

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Mar 24, 2013 4:29 PM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
Catfoot: No, I don't think he was involved in this, Guzman.

We had an argument about this and now this fella is now upset with me. He’s trying to annoy me with this poll. Granted, Paul Kruger did some things wrong, like giving all the business concessions to his friends and family, but he did not steal the state’s money. He did travel around with lots of gold bullion and minted coins, but that was to pay his soldiers. Quite a few mercenaries too. French, German, Spanish and even a few Russians. Some with rank.

They were fighting a guerrilla war and he damn well could not pay them with cheques. The entire economy was destroyed. Only the gold mines were operating, mostly secretly. They had to buy food through Mozambique. With gold!


We spoke about Smuts in one of your blogs. I don't know very much about the history of your country but I readed Smuts biography to know a few about the Boer Wars.

And now I found it in wikipedia, the story of the gold train which I readed years ago:

"The government of the Transvaal fled from Pretoria to convene in Machadodorp. These reverses hardened Smuts' resolve. He ordered the destruction of the gold mines, which he saw as the only British objectives, but this action was blocked by a local judge. Smuts raised an army of 500 men as quickly as he could, and demanded the banks be emptied and their reserves be placed on a train for Machadodorp. The train carrying Smuts, his soldiers, and all the Transvaal's gold was the last to leave Pretoria before the town fell, only hours later, to the British Army."

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Mar 24, 2013 4:42 PM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
Whocanitbe
WhocanitbeWhocanitbeCape Town, Western Cape South Africa1 Threads 1 Polls 9 Posts
Paul Kruger made regular requisitions for gold from the mint and directly from the gold mines during the last few months before he fled to Switzerland. very few of those ‘burgers’ as you call them got paid. they were starved to death. the mercenaries were gone by then. To avoid capture by the british. what happened to all that gold? with all the inflation since then it is billions by now, not millions.
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Mar 24, 2013 4:57 PM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Who cares??? dunno
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Mar 24, 2013 4:59 PM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
Catfoot
CatfootCatfootAround here, Western Cape South Africa27 Threads 25 Polls 185 Posts
GUZMAN1: We spoke about Smuts in one of your blogs. I don't know very much about the history of your country but I readed Smuts biography to know a few about the Boer Wars.


Interesting Guzman, but the argument here is about something that happened at another time.
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Mar 24, 2013 5:00 PM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
venusenvy: Who cares???
I do care, if I could find a treasure like this. wow
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Mar 24, 2013 5:02 PM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
Catfoot
CatfootCatfootAround here, Western Cape South Africa27 Threads 25 Polls 185 Posts
Here in this country we care Venus, just like you care about what happened in your past. Your heroes are precious to you.
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Mar 24, 2013 5:07 PM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
I care more about peeps blamin up any old crap on the PIC threads...But hey! care away eh...roll eyes
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Mar 24, 2013 5:11 PM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
Catfoot: Interesting Guzman, but the argument here is about something that happened at another time.


It was another gold? I forgot that you have a lot of it! laugh
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Mar 25, 2013 12:49 AM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
Catfoot
CatfootCatfootAround here, Western Cape South Africa27 Threads 25 Polls 185 Posts
GUZMAN1: It was another gold? I forgot that you have a lot of it!


Not as much as India!!laugh

A long time ago I read somwhere that 90% of all gold in private possession sits in India. I wonder if it is still like that?
dunno confused
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Mar 25, 2013 1:10 AM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
Whocanitbe
WhocanitbeWhocanitbeCape Town, Western Cape South Africa1 Threads 1 Polls 9 Posts
GUZMAN1: It was another gold? I forgot that you have a lot of it!


hi guzman, the gold I'm talking about probably went missing when kruger fled the country in 1900. ostensibly to raise help. he did go to germany but the kaiser refused to see him. he never came back.

when lord milner took posession of the mint about 2 million pounds worth of gold was missing plus a undisclosed amount in minted kruger pounds and brittish currency. not to mention moneys recorded as paid out that was never paid out.
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Mar 25, 2013 1:33 AM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Hundred thousands of Africaaners have worshipped Kruger as their National hero against the Brits.The time has come to learn he was an embezzler and a common thief.
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Mar 25, 2013 2:36 AM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
Catfoot
CatfootCatfootAround here, Western Cape South Africa27 Threads 25 Polls 185 Posts
Do you see what you have done? I asked you very nicely to leave this topic for a few weeks. There are things underfoot that you will not understand now. This is not the way to treat your friend, even if you are upset with me.
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Mar 25, 2013 5:05 AM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
Whocanitbe
WhocanitbeWhocanitbeCape Town, Western Cape South Africa1 Threads 1 Polls 9 Posts
Catfoot: Do you see what you have done? I asked you very nicely to leave this topic for a few weeks. There are things underfoot that you will not understand now. This is not the way to treat your friend, even if you are upset with me.


i have done nothing my friend. you are biased in this matter. trying to protect your family. at some time the truth must come out. it is no disgrace to you if the grandfather of your grandfather looted his own people.
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Mar 26, 2013 2:05 PM CST What Happened To The Kruger Millions?
Lukeon
LukeonLukeonPort Elizabeth 6000, Eastern Cape South Africa7 Threads 8 Polls 115 Posts
Eishhhhsigh
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