Which is superior? ( Archived) (86)

May 2, 2013 8:02 PM CSTWhich is superior?
lalasierra
lalasierralalasierralos angeles, California USA178 Threads 82 Polls 1,293 Posts

Which is superior?(Vote Below)

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Capitalism
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57%
Socialism
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43%
Total Votes
46
Why?

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May 2, 2013 9:08 PM CST Which is superior?
Why is America the only country in the world referred to as "The land of opportunity?" Because it is capitalist based. I don't see anyone flocking to socialist countries! If someone doesn't like capitalism, then MOVE to a country that is already socialist, but don't try to drag down the greatest nation on earth.
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May 2, 2013 9:14 PM CST Which is superior?
KIBALUV: Why is America the only country in the world referred to as "The land of opportunity?" Because it is capitalist based. I don't see anyone flocking to socialist countries! If someone doesn't like capitalism, then MOVE to a country that is already socialist, but don't try to drag down the greatest nation on earth.

thumbs up wave it's so nice to read someone else saying good things about this great country and what is has represented.
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May 2, 2013 9:19 PM CST Which is superior?
Bogart_1960online now!
Bogart_1960online now!Bogart_1960Portugal and Cap Ferrat, Provence-Alpes-Cote dAzur France43 Threads 1 Polls 8,629 Posts
KIBALUV: Why is America the only country in the world referred to as "The land of opportunity?" Because it is capitalist based. I don't see anyone flocking to socialist countries! If someone doesn't like capitalism, then MOVE to a country that is already socialist, but don't try to drag down the greatest nation on earth.


America WAS the land of opportunity..for emigrants, (history shows all great fortunes were achieve by emigrants)... but by your comments...I can see that you still living in the 1800´s... so no more comments.

I would suggest you reading about what makes a "great country" ... but no worries- US is also included as great country....

By the way, capitalism, as a philosophy, is not what US is practicing... for long time
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May 2, 2013 9:22 PM CST Which is superior?
Bogart_1960: America WAS the land of opportunity..for emigrants, (history shows all great fortunes were achieve by emigrants)... but by your comments...I can see that you still living in the 1800´s... so no more comments.

I would suggest you reading about what makes a "great country" ... but no worries- US is also included as great country....

By the way, capitalism, as a philosophy, is not what US is practicing... for long time


What are you smoking tonight, Bog? Name one country you can prove is better than the USA?
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May 2, 2013 9:25 PM CST Which is superior?
Bogart_1960online now!
Bogart_1960online now!Bogart_1960Portugal and Cap Ferrat, Provence-Alpes-Cote dAzur France43 Threads 1 Polls 8,629 Posts
galrads: What are you smoking tonight, Bog? Name one country you can prove is better than the USA?


Galrads,cheers had to be you !!... not smoking but enjoying a single malt... old
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May 2, 2013 9:27 PM CST Which is superior?
Bogart_1960: Galrads, had to be you !!... not smoking but enjoying a single malt... old
thumbs up cheers
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May 3, 2013 4:24 AM CST Which is superior?
KIBALUV: Why is America the only country in the world referred to as "The land of opportunity?" Because it is capitalist based. I don't see anyone flocking to socialist countries! If someone doesn't like capitalism, then MOVE to a country that is already socialist, but don't try to drag down the greatest nation on earth.
The "greatest nation on earth" has never been "great". An actor on the TV show 'Newsroom' put it perfectly. Google it and stop talking drivel. By the way, the Vietnamese don't believe the USA is the greatest nation on earth nor do the Taliban.
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May 3, 2013 4:40 AM CST Which is superior?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia207 Threads 7 Polls 29,897 Posts
lalasierra: Why?

Why what??? We never actually outgrew Feudalism.The fact that a leading group of greedy bastards had to make sure to control all the worlds wealth by colonization, economic slavery , imposing laws by bribery and blackmail .
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May 3, 2013 4:51 AM CST Which is superior?
Iuchi_Zien
Iuchi_ZienIuchi_ZienSheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK28 Threads 9 Polls 2,382 Posts
scon1916: The "greatest nation on earth" has never been "great". An actor on the TV show 'Newsroom' put it perfectly. Google it and stop talking drivel. By the way, the Vietnamese don't believe the USA is the greatest nation on earth nor do the Taliban.


The US is the greatest country on Earth? What a joke!

Where else in the world is it considered 'acceptable to sit a small child in the front garden with a loaded gun?

50.1 MILLION people in the US struggle to put food on the table every day.

1 in 7 people are enrolled in Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). Nearly half of them are children.

It is being projected that approximately 50 percent of all U.S. children will be on food stamps at some point in their lives before they reach the age of 18.

The US census bureau says that in 2010 35 MILLION US citizens are living in poverty

About 1.56 million people used an emergency shelter or a transitional housing program during the 12-month period between October 1, 2008 and September 30, 2009. This number suggests that roughly 1 in every 200 persons in the U.S. used the shelter system at some point in that period.

1.5 MILLION = the number of children in America who go to sleep without a home each year

The US is supposed to be a first world country. Its treatment of the poor looks more kike India or Brazil. If you are wealthy I'm sure the US is a wonderful place to be, like India or Brazil. If you are poor you might actually be better off living in a third world country. When international aid agencies are starting to operate in a first world country providing health care and food something is REALLY going wrong.
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May 3, 2013 4:54 AM CST Which is superior?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,629 Posts
galrads: Name one country you can prove is better than the USA?


Canada... wine

(hiya galrads wave..
(grin)
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May 3, 2013 4:58 AM CST Which is superior?
Iuchi_Zien: The US is the greatest country on Earth? What a joke!

Where else in the world is it considered 'acceptable to sit a small child in the front garden with a loaded gun?

50.1 MILLION people in the US struggle to put food on the table every day.

1 in 7 people are enrolled in Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). Nearly half of them are children.

It is being projected that approximately 50 percent of all U.S. children will be on food stamps at some point in their lives before they reach the age of 18.

The US census bureau says that in 2010 35 MILLION US citizens are living in poverty

About 1.56 million people used an emergency shelter or a transitional housing program during the 12-month period between October 1, 2008 and September 30, 2009. This number suggests that roughly 1 in every 200 persons in the U.S. used the shelter system at some point in that period.

1.5 MILLION = the number of children in America who go to sleep without a home each year

The US is supposed to be a first world country. Its treatment of the poor looks more kike India or Brazil. If you are wealthy I'm sure the US is a wonderful place to be, like India or Brazil. If you are poor you might actually be better off living in a third world country. When international aid agencies are starting to operate in a first world country providing health care and food something is REALLY going wrong.
the Topic actually is,whether Capitalism or Socialism is superior!
But it seems the US-Bashers always find a way to get to their favorite Topic!rolling on the floor laughing
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May 3, 2013 5:03 AM CST Which is superior?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, Alberta Canada32 Threads 24,548 Posts
jono7: Canada...

(hiya galrads ..
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I agree, and without a shadow of a doubt in my mind, especially after having travelled extensively in both and seeing how people live, and survive.

Hiya Jwave bouquet
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May 3, 2013 5:05 AM CST Which is superior?
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money"

Margret Thatcher
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May 3, 2013 5:07 AM CST Which is superior?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, Alberta Canada32 Threads 24,548 Posts
Conrad73: the Topic actually is,whether Capitalism or Socialism is superior!
But it seems the US-Bashers always find a way to get to their favorite Topic!


Ahh, Conrad, it's hardly a worthwhile comparison, either are just partial evaluations of any given country on the planet, and many have aspects of every "system" of governance known.

wave
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May 3, 2013 5:08 AM CST Which is superior?
AustralianGirlAU
AustralianGirlAUAustralianGirlAUIzmir, Mediterranean Turkey276 Posts
scon1916: The "greatest nation on earth" has never been "great". An actor on the TV show 'Newsroom' put it perfectly. Google it and stop talking drivel. By the way, the Vietnamese don't believe the USA is the greatest nation on earth nor do the Taliban.

yes i saw that on HBO - it was great. Also the Nick Naylor charachter in Thank you for Smoking also challenges this unfounded statement

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May 3, 2013 5:08 AM CST Which is superior?
if Socialism is so great...why does it have to be mandated and forced on people?
devil devil devil
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May 3, 2013 5:10 AM CST Which is superior?
lalasierra: Why?

Superior to what end?

Not sure why people are bashing the US for being Capitalist. When the big Auto Giants got bailed out that was a kick in the teeth to Capitalism.
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May 3, 2013 5:14 AM CST Which is superior?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,629 Posts
kidatheart: I agree, and without a shadow of a doubt in my mind, especially after having travelled extensively in both and seeing how people live, and survive.

Hiya J


thumbs up
hiya kid wave
cheers
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May 3, 2013 5:17 AM CST Which is superior?
MADDOG69: Superior to what end?

Not sure why people are bashing the US for being Capitalist. When the big Auto Giants got bailed out that was a kick in the teeth to Capitalism.
you mean that Crony-Corporatism that is still touted as "Capitalism" on both Sides of the Isle?laugh
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May 3, 2013 6:07 AM CST Which is superior?
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland59 Threads 5 Polls 5,198 Posts
lalasierra: Why?


I don't know of any country that is capitalist or socialist. I know of many nations that use a mixture of the two. Some nations are more of one and some more of another.

The US is not use capitalism in it's pure form no more than China uses Communism in it's pure form.
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May 3, 2013 6:15 AM CST Which is superior?
Migsy
MigsyMigsycandelaria quezon, Quezon City Philippines19 Threads 2,098 Posts
I know who is superior SUPERman:-)
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May 3, 2013 6:19 AM CST Which is superior?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 6,786 Posts
KIBALUV: Why is America the only country in the world referred to as "The land of opportunity?" Because it is capitalist based. I don't see anyone flocking to socialist countries! If someone doesn't like capitalism, then MOVE to a country that is already socialist, but don't try to drag down the greatest nation on earth.


Not so much people, but all the world's wealth, technology and industry certainly are.

And you're called a land of opportunity because you are/were a land of opportunity. There was a load of natural resources, good land and plenty of living space with few mouths to feed from it - this is your opportunity, opportunity that physically(not ideologically)exists.
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May 3, 2013 6:21 AM CST Which is superior?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand125 Threads 8,649 Posts
You could say that New Zealand is a Democratic Dictatorship with Socialist ideals maligned with a Communist streak, overall represented by a Constitutional Monarchy.

In reality it is a mixture of Socialistic and Democratic governmental system that is based upon the Constitutional Monarchy of the UK. The economic system as a 'free market economy' is certainly capitalistic, but is regulated by the ideals of the governing body.

uh oh
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May 3, 2013 6:30 AM CST Which is superior?
Non... Both serve plutocracygrin
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May 3, 2013 6:34 AM CST Which is superior?
galrads: What are you smoking tonight, Bog? Name one country you can prove is better than the USA?
laugh laugh laugh Virgincheering cheering cheering cheering islands.applause applause applause
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May 3, 2013 6:42 AM CST Which is superior?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 6,786 Posts
There is no such thing as Capitalism and Socialism in practice.

These words simpy mask a dichotomy as old civilisation itself, which is the compromise between the individual and the society's rights, the balance between freedom and order, liberty and organisation and the one and the many.
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May 3, 2013 6:44 AM CST Which is superior?
Obstinance_Works: There is no such thing as Capitalism and Socialism in practice.

These words simpy mask a dichotomy as old civilisation itself, which is the compromise between the individual and the society's rights, the balance between freedom and order, liberty and organisation and the one and the many.
Society has no right other than what the Individual has,except in the feverish Minds of the Statists!
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May 3, 2013 6:51 AM CST Which is superior?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 6,786 Posts
Conrad73: Society has no right other than what the Individual has,except in the feverish Minds of the Statists!


Really? I wear my seat belt every time I drive.

And I'm not talking just about the state. There's organically occuring organisation. Social pressures that lead the individual to behave in a way that maximises the social good: Such as marriage or the way we discourage people from taking drugs.
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May 3, 2013 6:53 AM CST Which is superior?
Iuchi_Zien
Iuchi_ZienIuchi_ZienSheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK28 Threads 9 Polls 2,382 Posts
Conrad73: if Socialism is so great...why does it have to be mandated and forced on people?


Because the vast majority of the population are greedy, selfish and have no idea of where their taxes go and what they pay for. They expect everybody ELSE to pay for things but when it is their turn at the trough they barge everybody out of the way. If you, Conrad, are happy to move the corpses of the starved from the road as you drive past, or more likely, over them then that is your problem. But when you have that car stolen you'd better be prepared to pay for its finding and recovery yourself. And don't expect me to pay for the punishment of the person who stole it.
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May 3, 2013 7:11 AM CST Which is superior?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 6,786 Posts
Iuchi_Zien: Because the vast majority of the population are greedy, selfish and have no idea of where their taxes go and what they pay for.


Then we need to develop a system that accords to Human nature.

But what needs to be remembered is that there's a difference between the civilsed man and the savage - or there could be no art, no culture and no science - The civilised man will think objectively and abstractly over the longterm in enlightened self-interest, the savage(see Conrad)will respond to nothing but instinctive animal lusts and motivations of immediate self-interest.

In any case, we need a system that accurately refelcts how much of the population is civilised and how much is savage at any given time. Socialism, I feel, is above Humanity except under highly exceptional circumstances and times - which is why it leads to the Gulag.
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