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What pathways do you think we could reasonably use to realize viable, carbon reducing, climate change influencing impacts in the energy sector?
Please note your ideas on carbon, CO2, impacts of mining (e.g. minerals/metals, uranium), costs (fiscal, environmental) and anything else you want to share about energy choices and impacts.
Yeah, I'm a serious kid... but I do like to have fun, too, so have fun with this if you dare!
GUZMAN1: Sometimes people forgets that no energy is needed when anything is made with human effort, walking or working with the muscles. And it's healthy.
Indeed, even I forgot... thanks for being able to remind us
In Britain it will be tidal power and underground coal gasification. Each region needs to play to its strengths, which is why I laugh when wealthy moral posturers here in England place solar panels on the roof of their homes even though the manufacture and installation of such creates a greater carbon footprint than if they just used power from the grid.
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
chris27292729: Vibration in the bedroom creates energy too.me thinks.- Have no idea what results,the combination "vibration + glow " brings.
All of which are true, I hope you will forgive me for answering the serious side of this question from the point of view of Finland. Sustainable energy
The challenges faced by energy research include, in particular, harmonisation of environmental effects and economic edge conditions as well as the optimal use of renewable natural resources for raw materials and energy. Energy solutions are key issues in terms of the present and future well-being of all mankind. Indeed, future energy solutions are significantly affected by their possible effects on human health and well-being.
The research programme will produce new and innovative scientific knowledge about energy technology, energy systems and energy efficiency. Another aim is to direct research to developing sustainable solutions as well as know-how in identifying future energy system alternatives. In the programme is research is carried out from a multidisciplinary perspective, including such fields as bioenergy and nuclear power as well as medical and economic sciences.
Aims of the research programme
to generate new and innovative scientific knowledge in energy technology, the operation of energy systems and energy efficiency to direct research to developing sustainable solutions in energy technology and energy systems, taking into account the environment and health issues to develop expertise in energy production, transfer and use; and to develop know-how in identifying future energy systems alternatives and to curbing of climate change to create new multidisciplinary research teams and national and international networks in research to increase the mobility of doctoral students and researchers to improve international competitiveness of research and industry to bring Finnish energy research up to international top level in certain research sectors to generate visible social impacts The SusEn programme consists of the following core themes
New technologies for energy production Effective energy system Energy use efficiency Other national funders
Maj and Tor Nessling Foundation, Fortum Oyj, UPM-Kymmene Oyj and Neste Oil Oyj.
Internatinal funding partners
Brasil: Brazilian National Council for Scientific and Technological Development (CNPq) Chile: Chilean National Commission for Scientific and Technological Research (CONICYT) Iceland: Orkustofnun China: National Natural Science Foundation of China (NSFC) Luxemburg: The National Research Fund (FNR) Norway: The Research Council of Norway (RCN) Poland: Ministry of Science and Higher Education (MSHE) Sweden: Swedish Energy Agency (STEM) Germany: Forschungszentrum Jülich (PTJ) Denmark: The Danish Agency for Science, Technology and Innovation (DASTI) Nordic Energy Research (NER)
Thankyou for bothering to read this. Finland takes this question seriously.
Here in Iceland we drill for hot water and lead it to our homes for heating. Also we harvest the pressure from when the hot water shoots from the ground to power turbines to produce electricity.
But most of our electricity come from powerstations where we build dams and the falling river water powers the turbines
Adalstef: Here in Iceland we drill for hot water and lead it to our homes for heating. Also we harvest the pressure from when the hot water shoots from the ground to power turbines to produce electricity.
But most of our electricity come from powerstations where we build dams and the falling river water powers the turbines
I think this is as clean energy as it gets
In Spain we haven't geysers (to my knowledge) but we have plenty of sun.
In the Canary Islands there is geothermal activity, but not much water. Perhaps sea water could be brought to the underground to power a turbine...
GUZMAN1: In Spain we haven't geysers (to my knowledge) but we have plenty of sun.
In the Canary Islands there is geothermal activity, but not much water. Perhaps sea water could be brought to the underground to power a turbine...
Yes of course hotsprings and steep falling rivers are not avalible everywhere. They started doing this here because we dont have any wood to burn so this was the only method available for heating.
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
Adalstef: Yes of course hotsprings and steep falling rivers are not avalible everywhere. They started doing this here because we dont have any wood to burn so this was the only method available for heating.
You are lucky to have this natural resource, here in Finland we have plenty of wood, but this does not help the co2 emissions.
Adalstef: Yes of course hotsprings and steep falling rivers are not avalible everywhere. They started doing this here because we dont have any wood to burn so this was the only method available for heating.
Then your country have advanced geothermic technology. Not everybody has this.
Obstinance_Works: In Britain it will be tidal power and underground coal gasification. Each region needs to play to its strengths, which is why I laugh when wealthy moral posturers here in England place solar panels on the roof of their homes even though the manufacture and installation of such creates a greater carbon footprint than if they just used power from the grid.
good points... is the carbon footprint because of the need to import resources for solar products? Do you think there's room for some human power ingenuity, too, considering the dense population? perhaps some bicycle powered systems? I mean, why not have banks of bikes outside shopping areas for people to sit and cycle while they eat their lunch? it might be enough to generate electricity for night lights in the parking areas...
A_Non_A_Moose: An extremely complex question......without easy answers....
Ohhh! That is hilarious!
I LOVE it, One Windmill, indeed. I prefer the bird friendly wind energy systems myself and am always amazed when people start howling about bird and bat kills - Because - it doesn't have to be that way!
Thanks for the very funny addition to the thread and you are correct, it is complicated. Do they really only have One Windmill?!
I LOVE this! I am very glad you went into so much detail and, I'm going to let you all in on a secret, now, rather than later.
The reason I posted this is because I have several proposals in the MIT Climate CoLab Contest for 2013. There are 19 days left and multiple categories for various types of proposals addressing Global Climate Change.
I have two entries in Shifting cultures for a changing climate and a new one in Global Industrial efficiency
There are 19 days left int he contest and a $10K prize (presumably to be put towards making your proposal fly... but, the best part - check out the advisors and others who oversee the project... EXPOSURE for your ideas is pretty high level. Hopefully they pick a really good solution.
Great information Tomcat!
Thank You
tomcatwarne: All of which are true, I hope you will forgive me for answering the serious side of this question from the point of view of Finland. Sustainable energy
The challenges faced by energy research include, in particular, harmonisation of environmental effects and economic edge conditions as well as the optimal use of renewable natural resources for raw materials and energy. Energy solutions are key issues in terms of the present and future well-being of all mankind. Indeed, future energy solutions are significantly affected by their possible effects on human health and well-being.
The research programme will produce new and innovative scientific knowledge about energy technology, energy systems and energy efficiency. Another aim is to direct research to developing sustainable solutions as well as know-how in identifying future energy system alternatives. In the programme is research is carried out from a multidisciplinary perspective, including such fields as bioenergy and nuclear power as well as medical and economic sciences.
Aims of the research programme
to generate new and innovative scientific knowledge in energy technology, the operation of energy systems and energy efficiency to direct research to developing sustainable solutions in energy technology and energy systems, taking into account the environment and health issues to develop expertise in energy production, transfer and use; and to develop know-how in identifying future energy systems alternatives and to curbing of climate change to create new multidisciplinary research teams and national and international networks in research to increase the mobility of doctoral students and researchers to improve international competitiveness of research and industry to bring Finnish energy research up to international top level in certain research sectors to generate visible social impacts The SusEn programme consists of the following core themes
New technologies for energy production Effective energy system Energy use efficiency Other national funders
Maj and Tor Nessling Foundation, Fortum Oyj, UPM-Kymmene Oyj and Neste Oil Oyj.
Internatinal funding partners
Brasil: Brazilian National Council for Scientific and Technological Development (CNPq) Chile: Chilean National Commission for Scientific and Technological Research (CONICYT) Iceland: Orkustofnun China: National Natural Science Foundation of China (NSFC) Luxemburg: The National Research Fund (FNR) Norway: The Research Council of Norway (RCN) Poland: Ministry of Science and Higher Education (MSHE) Sweden: Swedish Energy Agency (STEM) Germany: Forschungszentrum Jülich (PTJ) Denmark: The Danish Agency for Science, Technology and Innovation (DASTI) Nordic Energy Research (NER)
Thankyou for bothering to read this. Finland takes this question seriously.
I Love the big hotspring filled lake you have at Reykjavík, used ti think I'd go there one day... but, I'm well acclimated to southern climates now. Klamath Falls, Oregon also uses their underground geothermal for heating the community - best decision the city ever made was to tap into that sustainable resource.
Thank You, Adalstef! And, Hooray for Icleand!
Adalstef: Here in Iceland we drill for hot water and lead it to our homes for heating. Also we harvest the pressure from when the hot water shoots from the ground to power turbines to produce electricity.
But most of our electricity come from powerstations where we build dams and the falling river water powers the turbines
ohhhhhhhhhhh... shivers up my spine... watch out for methane releases I guess and perhaps worse, jeeeez... knew it was coming... - puts a whole new sense of urgency into the solution seeking, then... good luck everybody!
venusenvy: Its hard to say but I just read an article today that states as a planet we have now passed the dangerous level of Co2 emissions...Thats scary
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What are our "best" global energy pathways?(Vote Below)
Please note your ideas on carbon, CO2, impacts of mining (e.g. minerals/metals, uranium), costs (fiscal, environmental) and anything else you want to share about energy choices and impacts.
Yeah, I'm a serious kid... but I do like to have fun, too, so have fun with this if you dare!