I love animals and always feel like they r not very different than humans.We are all the product of same nature ?So always wondering if they have souls as we humans do? If u think they do,then does it apply to all living creatures?or u think most or all of them are just programmed machines?
I m asking this question cos theres no scientific answer to it.its about how u feel and believe.
bodleingGreater Manchester, England UK13,810 posts
"I sometimes say animals are closer to God than humans. They are closer to the source. The humans are more lost in the mind forms. Being is more obscured to the human because of the overlay of ego and mental formation.
I call animals “guardians of Being,” especially animals that live with humans. Because, for many humans, it’s through their contact with animals they get in touch with that level of being.
We are destined not to go back to the level of animals that we’ve come from but to return to being by going beyond thinking. The animals are at a level prior to thinking. They haven’t lost themselves in thought. We rise above thinking and then we meet them again, where we’re both in no-thought. There’s a deep connection.
The consciousness of the animal also begins to change when it interacts with a human who’s gone beyond thinking. It’s not only the animals assisting us; we are also assisting the animals. The animals certainly like to be close to humans, especially as humans go through the shift in consciousness."
bodleing: "I sometimes say animals are closer to God than humans. They are closer to the source. The humans are more lost in the mind forms. Being is more obscured to the human because of the overlay of ego and mental formation.
I call animals “guardians of Being,” especially animals that live with humans. Because, for many humans, it’s through their contact with animals they get in touch with that level of being.
We are destined not to go back to the level of animals that we’ve come from but to return to being by going beyond thinking. The animals are at a level prior to thinking. They haven’t lost themselves in thought. We rise above thinking and then we meet them again, where we’re both in no-thought. There’s a deep connection.
The consciousness of the animal also begins to change when it interacts with a human who’s gone beyond thinking. It’s not only the animals assisting us; we are also assisting the animals. The animals certainly like to be close to humans, especially as humans go through the shift in consciousness."
The soul to me is the part of you closest to nature: your organic and instinctive programming. I don't regard the soul as a creation of the intellect and it's the intllect that(somewhat)differentiates us from the animals.
But animals do not have a cultural soul(the forms of civilisations)unlike mankind. Which means that the instinct of the ape never change without long and drawn out biological change(evolution), whereas the instincts of men change with the hour.
Obstinance_Works: But animals do not have a cultural soul(the forms of civilisations)unlike mankind. Which means that the instinct of the ape never change without long and drawn out biological change(evolution), whereas the instincts of men change with the hour.
there are a group of apes that whose leaders are the female, all the males are subservient to her...... I thought that would amuse you Obstinance -
and a group of lions that enjoy swimming all the time.
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
JeanKimberley: there are a group of apes that whose leaders are the female, all the males are subservient to her...... I thought that would amuse you Obstinance -
and a group of lions that enjoy swimming all the time.
JeanKimberley: there are a group of apes that whose leaders are the female, all the males are subservient to her...... I thought that would amuse you Obstinance -
and a group of lions that enjoy swimming all the time.
And I bet she's a very unhappy ape!
I think many traditional Conservatives view feminism as violating nature, but not I, I wholly believe that feminism in practice is an individualistic return to the savage state of nature; women in tribal societies loved the bad boys like they do today. No, I argue in favour of the romantic Beta myths of chastity and chivalry and against feminism for pro-civilisation reasons, not because they are evolutionary fact.
Leo_7: I love animals and always feel like they r not very different than humans.We are all the product of same nature ?So always wondering if they have souls as we humans do? If u think they do,then does it apply to all living creatures?or u think most or all of them are just programmed machines?
I m asking this question cos theres no scientific answer to it.its about how u feel and believe.
They absolutely have more soul than most humans. I feel much safer around animals....
Thomas Aquinas attributed "soul" to all organisms but taught that only human souls are immortal.
Other religions teach that all biological organisms have souls, and others further still that non-biological entities (such as rivers and mountains) possess souls.
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
"....this has a direct bearing on the question of whether humans and other living creatures have souls.
As Kant pointed out over 200 years ago,
everything we experience – including all the colors, sensations and objects we perceive – are nothing but representations in our mind. Space and time are simply the mind's tools for putting it all together.
Now, to the amusement of idealists, scientists are beginning dimly to recognize that those rules make existence itself possible. Indeed, the experiments above suggest that objects only exist with real properties if they are observed. The results not only defy our classical intuition, but suggest that
a part of the mind – the soul – is immortal and exists outside of space and time.
"The hope of another life" wrote Will Durant "gives us courage to meet our own death, and to bear with the death of our loved ones; we are twice armed if we fight with faith."
And we are thrice armed if we fight with science....
"I sometimes say animals are closer to God than humans. They are closer to the source. The humans are more lost in the mind forms. Being is more obscured to the human because of the overlay of ego and mental formation.
I call animals “guardians of Being,” especially animals that live with humans. Because, for many humans, it’s through their contact with animals they get in touch with that level of being.
We are destined not to go back to the level of animals that we’ve come from but to return to being by going beyond thinking. The animals are at a level prior to thinking. They haven’t lost themselves in thought. We rise above thinking and then we meet them again, where we’re both in no-thought. There’s a deep connection.
The consciousness of the animal also begins to change when it interacts with a human who’s gone beyond thinking. It’s not only the animals assisting us; we are also assisting the animals. The animals certainly like to be close to humans, especially as humans go through the shift in consciousness."
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Do animals have soul?(Vote Below)
If u think they do,then does it apply to all living creatures?or u think most or all of them are just programmed machines?
I m asking this question cos theres no scientific answer to it.its about how u feel and believe.