George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree? (565)

Sep 10, 2013 8:58 PM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA154 Threads 4 Polls 7,422 Posts
lifeisadream: September 9th, 2013.

"...On the 911 recording, Shellie Zimmerman sounded stressed, saying her husband had attacked her father and may have broken his nose.

"He’s just threatening all of us with his firearm, and he’s gonna shoot us," she said on the call. "He punched my dad in the nose, my dad has a mark on his face, I saw his glasses on the floor. He accosted my father, and took my iPad out of my hand, and smashed it and cut it with a pocket knife."

She added, “He just showed up here.... I’m really, really afraid.... I don’t know what he’s capable of, I’m really scared.”

Shellie Zimmerman filed for divorce last week. She was convicted of perjury for lying to a judge about their finances during the prosecution of her husband in the 2012 shooting death of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin. George Zimmerman was acquitted this summer in the slaying....."
just hope there will be not more killings from G. Zimmerman.









Georgie loves guns. We will see him in the news more often then not.

I don't doubt that he pulled a gun on her and I'm willing to go further and suggest that somebody talked her out of filing charges against him perhaps for her safety

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Sep 10, 2013 9:04 PM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
montemonte: http://news.yahoo.com/zimmermans-wife-calls-911-wont-press-charges-130731519.htmlGeorgie loves guns. We will see him in the news more often then not.

I don't doubt that he pulled a gun on her and I'm willing to go further and suggest that somebody talked her out of filing charges against him perhaps for her safety


I think you're right montemonte - zimmerman is a man waiting to explode - he was always on the edge of violence before he came to the police and media's attention, and now after the trial which would take a toll - he has just become unraveled.....

divorce can also create some great feelings of anger.....
Sep 10, 2013 9:11 PM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico Mexico184 Threads 24 Polls 22,575 Posts
montemonte: http://news.yahoo.com/zimmermans-wife-calls-911-wont-press-charges-130731519.htmlGeorgie loves guns. We will see him in the news more often then not.

I don't doubt that he pulled a gun on her and I'm willing to go further and suggest that somebody talked her out of filing charges against him perhaps for her safety


Hi Monte

Why is G. Zimmerman too violent?
Where is G. Zimmerman’s mother?

It looks like G. Zimmerman father (the retired judge) has pulled some strings to help his son not to be charged on his wrong actions on past occasions.
Why has his Father done so?

Who is going to be the next victim of George Zimmerman?
I hope I am mistaken.

There is a saying:

“A good judge starts in his own home.”
“El que es buen Juez en su casa empieza”


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Sep 11, 2013 7:53 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland59 Threads 5 Polls 5,198 Posts
lifeisadream: September 9th, 2013.

"...On the 911 recording, Shellie Zimmerman sounded stressed, saying her husband had attacked her father and may have broken his nose.

"He’s just threatening all of us with his firearm, and he’s gonna shoot us," she said on the call. "He punched my dad in the nose, my dad has a mark on his face, I saw his glasses on the floor. He accosted my father, and took my iPad out of my hand, and smashed it and cut it with a pocket knife."

She added, “He just showed up here.... I’m really, really afraid.... I don’t know what he’s capable of, I’m really scared.”

Shellie Zimmerman filed for divorce last week. She was convicted of perjury for lying to a judge about their finances during the prosecution of her husband in the 2012 shooting death of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin. George Zimmerman was acquitted this summer in the slaying....."
just hope there will be not more killings from G. Zimmerman.


I just love the way all the people who were telling us what a great guy he was who was just defending himself are avoiding this thread like the plague now.laugh

The man is a violent thug is has managed to get away with murder as well as other offences in the past. When he kills again I think the people of the US will really have to look at themselves.
Sep 11, 2013 8:30 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74: I just love the way all the people who were telling us what a great guy he was who was just defending himself are avoiding this thread like the plague now.

The man is a violent thug is has managed to get away with murder as well as other offences in the past. When he kills again I think the people of the US will really have to look at themselves.
I read the thread the ones I read were defending his right to a fair trial. I know I would want a fair trial . And in all honesty just because he is a loose cannon does not mean he did every thing he has been accused of. Have you done every bad thing you have been accused of in life? Sadly to put it this way but he is not the main topic of news anymore. Lots more going on in the world. Yet he tries to stay in the lime light. There are reports of his good deeds (saving another humans life) and reports of his bad deeds. That is the way of life. But no longer front page news. So is the way of life....well for those that have a life. People only stay in one spot and refuse to move on in life if an event affects them personally. Or they have nothing else going on of more importance to them. There are some that take on certain events as causes. Such as I do with pollution. Talk about an on going battle. If this is your cause (George Zimmerman) then by all means take action on it. Words are cheap action shows the depth between the doers and the whiners. Write state representatives. You can do that. You don't have to be a citzen here to do that....join a gun lobbying group. Lots of things that you can do that will be pro action. wave
Sep 11, 2013 8:41 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
lifeisadream: Hi Monte

Why is G. Zimmerman too violent?
Where is G. Zimmerman’s mother?

It looks like G. Zimmerman father (the retired judge) has pulled some strings to help his son not to be charged on his wrong actions on past occasions.
Why has his Father done so?

Who is going to be the next victim of George Zimmerman?
I hope I am mistaken.

There is a saying:

“A good judge starts in his own home.”
“El que es buen Juez en su casa empieza”
He taught his son,to apply the Law to suite him.-grin
Sep 11, 2013 8:43 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland59 Threads 5 Polls 5,198 Posts
Happygolucky4u: I read the thread the ones I read were defending his right to a fair trial. I know I would want a fair trial . And in all honesty just because he is a loose cannon does not mean he did every thing he has been accused of. Have you done every bad thing you have been accused of in life? Sadly to put it this way but he is not the main topic of news anymore. Lots more going on in the world. Yet he tries to stay in the lime light. There are reports of his good deeds (saving another humans life) and reports of his bad deeds. That is the way of life. But no longer front page news. So is the way of life....well for those that have a life. People only stay in one spot and refuse to move on in life if an event affects them personally. Or they have nothing else going on of more importance to them. There are some that take on certain events as causes. Such as I do with pollution. Talk about an on going battle. If this is your cause (George Zimmerman) then by all means take action on it. Words are cheap action shows the depth between the doers and the whiners. Write state representatives. You can do that. You don't have to be a citzen here to do that....join a gun lobbying group. Lots of things that you can do that will be pro action.


The whole argument on the thread was if Zimmerman was defending himself. A lot of people were adamant he was being truthful in that case and thus calling Martins girlfriend a liar in her account.

Now it was pointed out Zimmerman was a changed man since he attacked his wife in the past, was sacked from a job as a bouncer for assaulting a woman and was charged with domestic violence. This new story shows us he has not changed. It shows us he is a violent man. It shows us he has no problem using violence against a old man and waving around his fire arm.
But your contention still is that the trial he received was fair?? Fair for who? Certainly not the victim or the victims family and friends. He is a violent thug, the prosecution showed this but the jury decided to ignore it. Remind me never to seek a "fair trial" in your country.grin
Sep 11, 2013 8:45 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland59 Threads 5 Polls 5,198 Posts
chris27292729: He taught his son,to apply the Law to suite him.-


I still contend if his victim had been a white child from a nice middle class family he would have been found guilty.
Sep 11, 2013 8:50 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74: The whole argument on the thread was if Zimmerman was defending himself. A lot of people were adamant he was being truthful in that case and thus calling Martins girlfriend a liar in her account.

Now it was pointed out Zimmerman was a changed man since he attacked his wife in the past, was sacked from a job as a bouncer for assaulting a woman and was charged with domestic violence. This new story shows us he has not changed. It shows us he is a violent man. It shows us he has no problem using violence against a old man and waving around his fire arm.
But your contention still is that the trial he received was fair?? Fair for who? Certainly not the victim or the victims family and friends. He is a violent thug, the prosecution showed this but the jury decided to ignore it. Remind me never to seek a "fair trial" in your country.
The thread is here for those to read and those who can comprehend what they read. roll eyes Where did I say the outcome of the trial was fair? Huh where ????? They worked with what evidence they had to work with.
Sep 11, 2013 8:52 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74: The whole argument on the thread was if Zimmerman was defending himself. A lot of people were adamant he was being truthful in that case and thus calling Martins girlfriend a liar in her account.

Now it was pointed out Zimmerman was a changed man since he attacked his wife in the past, was sacked from a job as a bouncer for assaulting a woman and was charged with domestic violence. This new story shows us he has not changed. It shows us he is a violent man. It shows us he has no problem using violence against a old man and waving around his fire arm.
But your contention still is that the trial he received was fair?? Fair for who? Certainly not the victim or the victims family and friends. He is a violent thug, the prosecution showed this but the jury decided to ignore it. Remind me never to seek a "fair trial" in your country.
Maybe we hear in the future,the jury was threatened,"free Zimmerman,or else".
Sep 11, 2013 8:56 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland59 Threads 5 Polls 5,198 Posts
Happygolucky4u: The thread is here for those to read and those who can comprehend what they read. Where did I say the outcome of the trial was fair? Huh where ????? They worked with what evidence they had to work with.


You mentioned that the people in the thread were saying Zimmerman should get a fair trial and nothing else. But in fact a lot were sticking up for him so I suggest you read the thread again!

And the evidence they had to work with showed he was a violent thug. The prosecution showed he had beat up his ex wife, they showed he was sacked from a job for assaulting a woman, they showed he had attacked a police officer. But the jury ignored all this and believed his story of self defence as did a lot in this thread.

My point when posting yesterday was "Look you were all wrong". laugh

He has again attacked a ex wife, he attacked her elderly father which tells me he has no problem attacking a child walking home from the store. And to top it all off he was waving his gun around like John Wayne! And instead of saying how terrible it may be this poor victim wont get justice or his family wont get justice you post the bull you have above.grin
Sep 11, 2013 9:04 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
Didiwop
DidiwopDidiwopPattaya City, Pattaya Thailand26 Posts
George Zimmerman was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, on the other hand, if ya look at it objectively, Elvis Presley was in the right place at the right time.
Sep 11, 2013 9:16 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74: You mentioned that the people in the thread were saying Zimmerman should get a fair trial and nothing else. But in fact a lot were sticking up for him so I suggest you read the thread again!

And the evidence they had to work with showed he was a violent thug. The prosecution showed he had beat up his ex wife, they showed he was sacked from a job for assaulting a woman, they showed he had attacked a police officer. But the jury ignored all this and believed his story of self defence as did a lot in this thread.

My point when posting yesterday was

He has again attacked a ex wife, he attacked her elderly father which tells me he has no problem attacking a child walking home from the store. And to top it all off he was waving his gun around like John Wayne! And instead of saying how terrible it may be this poor victim wont get justice or his family wont get justice you post the bull you have above.
Do you know anything about the United States legal system and the quality of evidence it takes to convict someone? Or do you just like to act like a child with your "Look you were all wrong"? I have read the thread. It all boils down to comprehension. My question to you do you see the post that you are talking about as being worded to defend him or being worded to defend their right to protect themselves? I am not quite seeing what you are seeing. dunno
Sep 11, 2013 9:29 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74: I still contend if his victim had been a white child from a nice middle class family he would have been found guilty.
I doubted under the same circustances,with his retired judge father,influencing Judges+Jurors in Florida,-Maybe,and this is my own assumption,jurors would come to the samwe verdict.
Sep 11, 2013 9:31 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
chris27292729: I doubted under the same circustances,with his retired judge father,influencing Judges+Jurors in Florida,-Maybe,and this is my own assumption,jurors would come to the samwe verdict.
Circumstances+ same verdict.Typo.
Sep 11, 2013 9:40 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
Happygolucky4u: The thread is here for those to read and those who can comprehend what they read. Where did I say the outcome of the trial was fair? Huh where ????? They worked with what evidence they had to work with.
The truth,no matter,how long it takes, always comes out.One day we will find out the roll of his judge retired father,manipulating evidence,behind the scenes, on behalf of his son.dunno
Sep 11, 2013 9:42 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland59 Threads 5 Polls 5,198 Posts
Happygolucky4u: Do you know anything about the United States legal system and the quality of evidence it takes to convict someone? Or do you just like to act like a child with your "Look you were all wrong"? I have read the thread. It all boils down to comprehension. My question to you do you see the post that you are talking about as being worded to defend him or being worded to defend their right to protect themselves? I am not quite seeing what you are seeing.


Don't talk to me about the USA legal system like it is infallible or try to tell me you can't be convicted of manslaughter on circumstantial evidence! If there was not enough evidence for a conviction the trial would never have went ahead!
So it was down to who the jury believed. If they believed Zimmermans story of self defence or Treyvons girlfriends evidence about the phone call.
The fact is even though the prosecution showed Zimmerman was violent, an alcoholic and he followed Treyvon after being told not to the jury still believed his story of self defence.

Now with this new story coming to light it shows him for the violent thug the prosecution knew he was. It shows he has no problem waving around his fire arm, it shows he has no problem attacking someone. But we knew this already.
So it shows us that this man has got away with killing a minor. But again instead of saying how awful that is you're spouting more bull about your legal system. All I know is I would hate to be a black victim in your "great" legal system. laugh
Sep 11, 2013 9:45 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland59 Threads 5 Polls 5,198 Posts
sofarsogood74: Don't talk to me about the USA legal system like it is infallible or try to tell me you can't be convicted of manslaughter on circumstantial evidence! If there was not enough evidence for a conviction the trial would never have went ahead!
So it was down to who the jury believed. If they believed Zimmermans story of self defence or Treyvons girlfriends evidence about the phone call.
The fact is even though the prosecution showed Zimmerman was violent, an alcoholic and he followed Treyvon after being told not to the jury still believed his story of self defence.

Now with this new story coming to light it shows him for the violent thug the prosecution knew he was. It shows he has no problem waving around his fire arm, it shows he has no problem attacking someone. But we knew this already.
So it shows us that this man has got away with killing a minor. But again instead of saying how awful that is you're spouting more bull about your legal system. All I know is I would hate to be a black victim in your "great" legal system.


P.S My another point is they were so quick to believe a man with a violent history who was following this minor after being told not to, armed with a gun, was defending himself. There was far more evidence to suggest the contrary. grin
Sep 11, 2013 9:46 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland59 Threads 5 Polls 5,198 Posts
chris27292729: The truth,no matter,how long it takes, always comes out.One day we will find out the roll of his judge retired father,manipulating evidence,behind the scenes, on behalf of his son.


Well it seems middle America were behind him. They were very quick to believe a man with a violent past, armed with a gun was defending himself against a kid. Says a lot about Middle America really.
Sep 11, 2013 9:50 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
chris27292729: The truth,no matter,how long it takes, always comes out.One day we will find out the roll of his judge retired father,manipulating evidence,behind the scenes, on behalf of his son.
That I believe teddybear
Sep 11, 2013 9:51 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74: Don't talk to me about the USA legal system like it is infallible or try to tell me you can't be convicted of manslaughter on circumstantial evidence! If there was not enough evidence for a conviction the trial would never have went ahead!
So it was down to who the jury believed. If they believed Zimmermans story of self defence or Treyvons girlfriends evidence about the phone call.
The fact is even though the prosecution showed Zimmerman was violent, an alcoholic and he followed Treyvon after being told not to the jury still believed his story of self defence.

Now with this new story coming to light it shows him for the violent thug the prosecution knew he was. It shows he has no problem waving around his fire arm, it shows he has no problem attacking someone. But we knew this already.
So it shows us that this man has got away with killing a minor. But again instead of saying how awful that is you're spouting more bull about your legal system. All I know is I would hate to be a black victim in your "great" legal system.
And i thought """I have a dream""",is a thing of the past.-laugh
Sep 11, 2013 10:03 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74: Don't talk to me about the USA legal system like it is infallible or try to tell me you can't be convicted of manslaughter on circumstantial evidence! If there was not enough evidence for a conviction the trial would never have went ahead!
So it was down to who the jury believed. If they believed Zimmermans story of self defence or Treyvons girlfriends evidence about the phone call.
The fact is even though the prosecution showed Zimmerman was violent, an alcoholic and he followed Treyvon after being told not to the jury still believed his story of self defence.

Now with this new story coming to light it shows him for the violent thug the prosecution knew he was. It shows he has no problem waving around his fire arm, it shows he has no problem attacking someone. But we knew this already.
So it shows us that this man has got away with killing a minor. But again instead of saying how awful that is you're spouting more bull about your legal system. All I know is I would hate to be a black victim in your "great" legal system.
I see now you want to put words in my mouth. So I take it you are incapable of comprehending and only see what you want to see. Cannot have intelligent conversation when you want to change a persons words to suit your own agenda! Could be why people are not posting. It is kind of like feeding a troll. A person who wants to incite trouble. So they will try and twist words around to make it into something it is not. bye!
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Sep 11, 2013 10:09 AM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland59 Threads 5 Polls 5,198 Posts
Happygolucky4u: I see now you want to put words in my mouth. So I take it you are incapable of comprehending and only see what you want to see. Cannot have intelligent conversation when you want to change a persons words to suit your own agenda! Could be why people are not posting. It is kind of like feeding a troll. A person who wants to incite trouble. So they will try and twist words around to make it into something it is not. bye!


I'm a troll because I disagree with you? You were the one who commented on my post so if there is a troll here it's you.laugh

Facts are people in this thread were so quick to believe it was self defence when the evidence didn't really show that. You have to ask yourself why that is.

And now we have this other incident were Zimmerman has attacked a woman and elderly man while brandishing his fire arm we can see the Jury really got it wrong.

But again instead of sympathising with the victim and the family you choose to try to pick holes in what points I am making and you're failing miserably.
And you call me a troll!rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 11, 2013 9:50 PM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
lifeisadream
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sofarsogood74: I just love the way all the people who were telling us what a great guy he was who was just defending himself are avoiding this thread like the plague now.

The man is a violent thug is has managed to get away with murder as well as other offences in the past. When he kills again I think the people of the US will really have to look at themselves.



It does not matter who is right or who is wrong.

However, I do hope that you and everyone –including myself- that thinks that G. Zimmerman is a violent man with not limits, are wrong and there will be no more victims.




uncertain
Dec 11, 2013 2:46 PM CST George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree?
sofarsogood74
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Says it all really.laugh
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