George Zimmerman NOT Guilty!!!! Agree or Disagree? (478)
sofarsogood74: Did he not follow and confront this child? Was the child not just walking home after buying a soft drink and sweets? Is that what you country has become? A child goes to the shop for sweets, he is confronted by a stranger who ends up shooting him and you call it a "good shot"? Did the police not tell Zimmerman not to follow the teen? Why was he walking around with a gun in his pants anyway? If someone confronted you on the street would you not defend yourself. The teen was confronted by some lunatic he did not know while he was just walking home. The lunatic shoots him and he walks!
I wonder if the child was white would the outcome have been the same?
If it was your child would you have called it a "good shot"?
I wonder if the child was white would the outcome have been the same?
If it was your child would you have called it a "good shot"?
My response was to this.
galrads: .
why are you allowed Internet access?
why are you allowed Internet access?
LoL. Amen.
Ken_19: My response was to this.
How do you know that sofar is lying?
Just because news outlets put something in print doesn't mean they're telling the truth.
It's obvious only the 17 yr old and Zimmerman know what really happened.
Hi.
There is no independent witnesses to say the boy turned around and confronted Zimmerman,only Zimmermans word.
If i believed someone was following me,i would certainly turn around and confront them. Wouldnt you?
Again,only Zimmerman says he was attacked first,no independent witnesses.
A civilian despatcher in the police force carries alot of responsibility,and are selected for there ability to communicate,keep calm in situations,and help the public.They are not just dragged of the street and given headphones.
Of course they are going to tell him not to persue,thats what they are trained to do.They are not going to tell him to continue following and show no regard for your life,are they.
This is not about gun law,the right to bear arms,its about whether the police,forensic scientists and legal system did ther job correctly,proffessionally and without bias.
Whether he is guilty or not,the case should have been investigated and presented properly,then the doubts and debates that are taking place wouldnt be necerssary.
There is no independent witnesses to say the boy turned around and confronted Zimmerman,only Zimmermans word.
If i believed someone was following me,i would certainly turn around and confront them. Wouldnt you?
Again,only Zimmerman says he was attacked first,no independent witnesses.
A civilian despatcher in the police force carries alot of responsibility,and are selected for there ability to communicate,keep calm in situations,and help the public.They are not just dragged of the street and given headphones.
Of course they are going to tell him not to persue,thats what they are trained to do.They are not going to tell him to continue following and show no regard for your life,are they.
This is not about gun law,the right to bear arms,its about whether the police,forensic scientists and legal system did ther job correctly,proffessionally and without bias.
Whether he is guilty or not,the case should have been investigated and presented properly,then the doubts and debates that are taking place wouldnt be necerssary.
Angelpepper: Maybe George Z. Can live with Galrads. . .And He can protect him.
No thanks, Angelpepper. I thought you were my friend. I like a nice quiet life and can do without politics and the media stirring up things to keep us polarized.
sofarsogood74: This will be my reply to you from now on. Just a reminder.
You asked "Were Muslims members of the Church of England"
You asked "Were Muslims members of the Church of England"
go read what I said. I asked if the Church of England includes muslims.
kennn: I agree. The debate here really will do nothing to change the outcome of this unfortunate and unnecessary incident. The right to bear arms sometimes clouds the interpretation of the right to use them.I certainly would not want a Zimmerman living in my neighborhood. JMO
this is just utter nonsense for those who know their rights and know why they carry a gun or carry anything else that can be carried and used to defend one's own life.
galrads: No thanks, Angelpepper. I thought you were my friend. I like a nice quiet life and can do without politics and the media stirring up things to keep us polarized.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . * *Galrads: Btw: I am still your friend. We can agree & degree. And still be friends too. I just dont find it a laughing matter. It can happen to anyone. No matter, what a person race is.
Sweet Pea?
Wy, thank ye maam..., that was nice of ya.
mmmm, haven't been referred to, as that in a loooong time...
Have a great day...
~JO(sweet-pea)HN~
Wy, thank ye maam..., that was nice of ya.
mmmm, haven't been referred to, as that in a loooong time...
Have a great day...
~JO(sweet-pea)HN~
TheresMyFriend: Sweet Pea?
Wy, thank ye maam..., that was nice of ya.
mmmm, haven't been referred to, as that in a loooong time...
Have a great day...
~JO(sweet-pea)HN~
Wy, thank ye maam..., that was nice of ya.
mmmm, haven't been referred to, as that in a loooong time...
Have a great day...
~JO(sweet-pea)HN~
sofarsogood74: Did he not follow and confront this child? Was the child not just walking home after buying a soft drink and sweets? Is that what you country has become? A child goes to the shop for sweets, he is confronted by a stranger who ends up shooting him and you call it a "good shot"? Did the police not tell Zimmerman not to follow the teen? Why was he walking around with a gun in his pants anyway? If someone confronted you on the street would you not defend yourself. The teen was confronted by some lunatic he did not know while he was just walking home. The lunatic shoots him and he walks!
I wonder if the child was white would the outcome have been the same?
If it was your child would you have called it a "good shot"?
I wonder if the child was white would the outcome have been the same?
If it was your child would you have called it a "good shot"?
galrads: this is just utter nonsense for those who know their rights and know why they carry a gun or carry anything else that can be carried and used to defend one's own life.
I couldn't agree with you more. Basically I think we both said the same thing. Ya think?
jac379: The right to bear arms brings with it a responsibility that some people can't handle, or simply do not understand, that it brings into question the right to bear arms.
I don't think the American authorities have a responsible enough attitude towards the right to bear arms to be in a position to offer the right to bear arms.
This was clearly a case of misuse of firearms, given Zimmerman flouted the police request to remain uninvolved.
I don't think the American authorities have a responsible enough attitude towards the right to bear arms to be in a position to offer the right to bear arms.
This was clearly a case of misuse of firearms, given Zimmerman flouted the police request to remain uninvolved.
They don't offer it.
We don't relinquish it.
They are not our creators, we are there's.
Angelpepper: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * *Galrads: Btw: I am still your friend. We can agree & degree. And still be friends too. I just dont find it a laughing matter. It can happen to anyone. No matter, what a person race is.
I agree too about the "case" itself not being a laughing matter. I don't consider the outrageous bigotry and prejudiced remarks and insults, made by some of the CS posters, part of the trial case though.
These type of people don't contribute anything but spin with their remarks, and I try to laugh-off their hame calling and labels which they have thrown at me here and in other threads.
in the end someone is dead , and some one shot him , and a person is guilty of pulling the trigger.
virgosingle: in the end someone is dead , and some one shot him , and a person is guilty of pulling the trigger.
You are right. Virgo!virgosingle: in the end someone is dead , and some one shot him , and a person is guilty of pulling the trigger.
Obviously.
Ccincy: I know of one poster in particular who was making fun of galrads comments.
Hey My Ccincy! . . How are you? And what happen?rebel2: I can only read whats on here,so have i got it right?
A 17yr old (race irrelevant),is walking along,and an adult "bouncer",who is armed,follows him. For whatever reason,an altrication takes place,and the unarmed 17yr old is shot dead.
The "bouncer" claims he was brutally attacked,but showed no signs of injuries.
Forgetting gun laws,race and anything else that can be thrown in just to insult and evade the question,i am baffled with these facts as to how he could be found guilty.
Even allowing for the 17yr old being the aggressor,Zimmerman was a "bouncer",not a frail old man,who should have been able to deal with the situation without killing him.
I doubt a police officer would have shot him in the same circumstances.
Niether had injuries that would suggest a fight? I think for the sake of maintaining a just legal system,the powers that be need to looking at this very seriously.
A 17yr old (race irrelevant),is walking along,and an adult "bouncer",who is armed,follows him. For whatever reason,an altrication takes place,and the unarmed 17yr old is shot dead.
The "bouncer" claims he was brutally attacked,but showed no signs of injuries.
Forgetting gun laws,race and anything else that can be thrown in just to insult and evade the question,i am baffled with these facts as to how he could be found guilty.
Even allowing for the 17yr old being the aggressor,Zimmerman was a "bouncer",not a frail old man,who should have been able to deal with the situation without killing him.
I doubt a police officer would have shot him in the same circumstances.
Niether had injuries that would suggest a fight? I think for the sake of maintaining a just legal system,the powers that be need to looking at this very seriously.
Zimmerman's nose had been broken and the back of his head was split open (lacerated) in several places from Martin slamming Zimmerman's head against the concrete curb over and over until Zimmerman finally defended himself.
Angelpepper: Hey My Ccincy! . . How are you? And what happen?
Hey to you also.I've been fine.
virgosingle: in the end someone is dead , and some one shot him , and a person is guilty of pulling the trigger.
The jury thought otherwise,NOT GUILTY,despite pulling the trigger.Glatlol: While a 17 year old is not a child, he is not a grown man either.
He had the right to carry a gun eh, well anyone thats been on here any lenght of time knows my feeling on that. Did he have the right to kill who he decided to also?
He had the right to carry a gun eh, well anyone thats been on here any lenght of time knows my feeling on that. Did he have the right to kill who he decided to also?
Someone posted that Zimmerman was part a neighborhood watch group and that he had a right to carry a gun.
I've belonged to a neighborhood watch group but no one carried a gun.
Glatlol: While a 17 year old is not a child, he is not a grown man either.
He had the right to carry a gun eh, well anyone thats been on here any lenght of time knows my feeling on that. Did he have the right to kill who he decided to also?
Glatlol! I agree, with you! Btw: And a humanbeing too!He had the right to carry a gun eh, well anyone thats been on here any lenght of time knows my feeling on that. Did he have the right to kill who he decided to also?
Ccincy: Someone posted that Zimmerman was part a neighborhood watch group and that he had a right to carry a gun.
I've belonged to a neighborhood watch group but no one carried a gun.
I've belonged to a neighborhood watch group but no one carried a gun.
I have been part of that group here for years. Thankfully people here are not allowed carry weapons that are made to maim and kill and the vaste majority dont want to.
Glatlol: I have been part of that group here for years. Thankfully people here are not allowed carry weapons that are made to maim and kill and the vaste majority dont want to.
All us watch captains had were walkie takies and a NW phone number to call to check on police reports to pass on to the rest of the members of the watch.
I read that this Trayvon had been caught with jewellery in his schoolbag before. Presumably from a house robbing. So what was he doing in the gated community looking around? Scoping out houses to rob? 
rebel2: snipped 'if he had been found guilty,the powers that be,who accepted him as a nieghbourhood watch officer,would be sued up hill and down hill,and would open up the system to intense scrutiny'
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
Actually that is an interesting sidebar. Neighborhood Watch, Inc. has already been very clear Zimmerman is not one of theirs, so whose was he? The heat for this in the upcoming civil action will probably fall upon the Homeowners Association (HOA) in whose name Zimmerman was allegedly acting. Either way culpable or not I see the HOA being forced to spend a heck of a lot of money in the upcoming civil action. The dollar costs of that will probably blow right on by the upper limit of their liability insurance. Since 'wrongful death lawsuits are probably not a routine item on their budget the way they will be forced to pay for it is to raise their assessments on the lots and consider imposing Special Assessments to cover current and future legal costs.
MADDOG69: I read that this Trayvon had been caught with jewellery in his schoolbag before. Presumably from a house robbing. So what was he doing in the gated community looking around? Scoping out houses to rob?
Yes he had the quite a past yet that was not allowed in court as evidence. Don't understand why not?Possibly the same as UK law. Previous convictions and anything simaliar cannot be bought up before a verdict,so not to influence any jury.
They must only relate to the facts concerning the current case.
They must only relate to the facts concerning the current case.
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Sometimes I think it's an atrocity how he operates!
Remember the Rapecase that was no Rapecase he played up until there was a Riot?
I wonder sometimes how him and Jesse still have any Credibility left in the African-American Community.
Seems now they want to replay the 1980 Miami Riots again!
Or maybe those after the Acquittal of those Officers in the Rodney King-Beating!