Children Beaty Pageants ( Elaborate your answer ) (114)
Im against it ...
A beauty pageant or beauty contest is ,in my opinion, a covert child abusing ,brainwashing method
A beauty pageant or beauty contest is ,in my opinion, a covert child abusing ,brainwashing method
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Should children be exposed to competition at all?
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jac379: Should children be exposed to competition at all?
Good question Jac
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Exploitation?
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I'm not totally against promote competitivity between children, in sports for example.
But a beauty contest doesn't promote any virtue and can be frustrating for them.
But a beauty contest doesn't promote any virtue and can be frustrating for them.
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GUZMAN1: I'm not totally against promote competitivity between children, in sports for example.
But a beauty contest doesn't promote any virtue and can be frustrating for them.
But a beauty contest doesn't promote any virtue and can be frustrating for them.
Life is competitive, children should be taught the skills to cope with it. But they should always be treated as children and not as vehicles for adult greed and adult ambitions or desires.------ This poll is Archived ------
LadyDiz2: Life is competitive, children should be taught the skills to cope with it. But they should always be treated as children and not as vehicles for adult greed and adult ambitions or desires.
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Maybe with the gender equality business - there should be a male child beauty pageant?
they can dress up in casual, sporting, and tuxedos
and their skills can be some sports related skills, or just as with the girls, singing and dancing.....
just sayin'
they can dress up in casual, sporting, and tuxedos
and their skills can be some sports related skills, or just as with the girls, singing and dancing.....
just sayin'
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jac379: Should children be exposed to competition at all?
Yes...and sometimes even blackmailed ( if you put your toys back in the box,you`ll get water and bread for dinner )...
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Dedovix: Yes...and sometimes even blackmailed ( if you put your toys back in the box,you`ll get water and bread for dinner )...
And bread...?
You're spoiling them, Bobbo.
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We have young ones in the ballroom comps and they learn to get up and dance in front of fairly large audiences.. ,
What this does is give them a huge amount of confidence... and of course, before they have hit the comp floor, they have come from school straight to a studio to work out..have a lesson, and learn not only routines, but to get along with their partner and teacher.
I saw all good stuff with these kids that grew into really polite and confident adults..
however, sure the dress up part is there, as is the makeup, but there are rules around dress code, which is really good..
I found out that these littlies had wonderful school results, ambition, and confidence..
and the makeup part was only light, and only for comp days... bit like a treat..
so I am all for it... (if you as a parent can afford it)
but just for beauty... no.. not at all..
What this does is give them a huge amount of confidence... and of course, before they have hit the comp floor, they have come from school straight to a studio to work out..have a lesson, and learn not only routines, but to get along with their partner and teacher.
I saw all good stuff with these kids that grew into really polite and confident adults..
however, sure the dress up part is there, as is the makeup, but there are rules around dress code, which is really good..
I found out that these littlies had wonderful school results, ambition, and confidence..
and the makeup part was only light, and only for comp days... bit like a treat..
so I am all for it... (if you as a parent can afford it)
but just for beauty... no.. not at all..
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Merriweather: We have young ones in the ballroom comps and they learn to get up and dance in front of fairly large audiences.. ,
What this does is give them a huge amount of confidence... and of course, before they have hit the comp floor, they have come from school straight to a studio to work out..have a lesson, and learn not only routines, but to get along with their partner and teacher.
I saw all good stuff with these kids that grew into really polite and confident adults..
however, sure the dress up part is there, as is the makeup, but there are rules around dress code, which is really good..
I found out that these littlies had wonderful school results, ambition, and confidence..
and the makeup part was only light, and only for comp days... bit like a treat..
so I am all for it... (if you as a parent can afford it)
but just for beauty... no.. not at all..
What this does is give them a huge amount of confidence... and of course, before they have hit the comp floor, they have come from school straight to a studio to work out..have a lesson, and learn not only routines, but to get along with their partner and teacher.
I saw all good stuff with these kids that grew into really polite and confident adults..
however, sure the dress up part is there, as is the makeup, but there are rules around dress code, which is really good..
I found out that these littlies had wonderful school results, ambition, and confidence..
and the makeup part was only light, and only for comp days... bit like a treat..
so I am all for it... (if you as a parent can afford it)
but just for beauty... no.. not at all..
I can see what you're saying, Merri, but sometimes kids can be under a lot of pressure and that can be very damaging.
If life is competitive, please excuse me.
I remember my daughter at about 6 years old in a school race. The starting pistol went off, the kids all ran...except mine who was watching a buzzard and had to be shoved from behind by one of the school staff to get her going. In another race, the little girl in the lane next to her went to pick up her hoop they had to go through by mistake, so my Meg stopped politely let her go first and then went through afterwards.
Competition isn't everything and maybe other things are more important.
That's my girl.
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jac379: I can see what you're saying, Merri, but sometimes kids can be under a lot of pressure and that can be very damaging.
If life is competitive, please excuse me.
I remember my daughter at about 6 years old in a school race. The starting pistol went off, the kids all ran...except mine who was watching a buzzard and had to be shoved from behind by one of the school staff to get her going. In another race, the little girl in the lane next to her went to pick up her hoop they had to go through by mistake, so my Meg stopped politely let her go first and then went through afterwards.
Competition isn't everything and maybe other things are more important.
That's my girl.
If life is competitive, please excuse me.
I remember my daughter at about 6 years old in a school race. The starting pistol went off, the kids all ran...except mine who was watching a buzzard and had to be shoved from behind by one of the school staff to get her going. In another race, the little girl in the lane next to her went to pick up her hoop they had to go through by mistake, so my Meg stopped politely let her go first and then went through afterwards.
Competition isn't everything and maybe other things are more important.
That's my girl.
Aww Jac... that is so cute..
bless her... No... competition isn't everything, but for these littlies.. they are so good... because its a discipline.. and one they are doing because they want to...
They seriously learn so much from it... and in social dances, it is not strange to see a littlie dance with an oldie.. just for fun..
It is another world Jac, one of social graces.. and there I believe is where the core of it all is.. and if it wasn't so expensive, I am sure more children would participate.. but its a $$ thing..
But back to topic... I would put money on it.. that none of it is done for beauty and getting dressed up.. its done for the feel good part of body movement... which apparently is great for moral, confidence, etc..
( just as a btw Jac ... mentally challenged youngun's come and participate because it produces 'feel good' mind and body experiences, which you don't get sitting around watching tele)
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Competitive sports YES but - Only if they want to do them
Parents should not push them against their will into any sport solo or Team.
PT and exercise - Fine
Encouragement toward practical hobbies of any kind and to enter competitions for prizes IF they wish - Fine
BUT - Beauty and Glamour competitions NO - NO and Thrice NO
Parents should not push them against their will into any sport solo or Team.
PT and exercise - Fine
Encouragement toward practical hobbies of any kind and to enter competitions for prizes IF they wish - Fine
BUT - Beauty and Glamour competitions NO - NO and Thrice NO
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MikeD12: Competitive sports YES but - Only if they want to do them
Parents should not push them against their will into any sport solo or Team.
PT and exercise - Fine
Encouragement toward practical hobbies of any kind and to enter competitions for prizes IF they wish - Fine
BUT - Beauty and Glamour competitions NO - NO and Thrice NO
Parents should not push them against their will into any sport solo or Team.
PT and exercise - Fine
Encouragement toward practical hobbies of any kind and to enter competitions for prizes IF they wish - Fine
BUT - Beauty and Glamour competitions NO - NO and Thrice NO
Hi Mike... I do agree with you around just beauty and glamour competitions.. that is just wrong.. but littlies love to dress up, and for school plays and dancing comps... I say yes... let them..
However, I did mention the dancing comp... because of course, its a precursor to the world of bling... and the littlies see that, and because they live in that world... it becomes the norm.. as it evolves into learned behaviour...
but by that time.. they are generally makeup age anyway... so I think, at least they learn to apply makeup and clothes with style..
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Merriweather: Aww Jac... that is so cute..
bless her... No... competition isn't everything, but for these littlies.. they are so good... because its a discipline.. and one they are doing because they want to...
They seriously learn so much from it... and in social dances, it is not strange to see a littlie dance with an oldie.. just for fun..
It is another world Jac, one of social graces.. and there I believe is where the core of it all is.. and if it wasn't so expensive, I am sure more children would participate.. but its a $$ thing..
But back to topic... I would put money on it.. that none of it is done for beauty and getting dressed up.. its done for the feel good part of body movement... which apparently is great for moral, confidence, etc..
( just as a btw Jac ... mentally challenged youngun's come and participate because it produces 'feel good' mind and body experiences, which you don't get sitting around watching tele)
bless her... No... competition isn't everything, but for these littlies.. they are so good... because its a discipline.. and one they are doing because they want to...
They seriously learn so much from it... and in social dances, it is not strange to see a littlie dance with an oldie.. just for fun..
It is another world Jac, one of social graces.. and there I believe is where the core of it all is.. and if it wasn't so expensive, I am sure more children would participate.. but its a $$ thing..
But back to topic... I would put money on it.. that none of it is done for beauty and getting dressed up.. its done for the feel good part of body movement... which apparently is great for moral, confidence, etc..
( just as a btw Jac ... mentally challenged youngun's come and participate because it produces 'feel good' mind and body experiences, which you don't get sitting around watching tele)
I doubt that dressing up and beauty has nothing to do with it. I've made enough theatrical, performance art and dressing up costumes for kids to know how much they like it.
Even theatre can be competitive, with lead parts and minor parts. I do agree it's good for kids, but it can be difficult to handle so that does remain a positive thing for everyone.
I can see the good side of competition, I can see the bad side. I don't want to stop kids having fun and learning, but I do worry about some of the consequences and the social health of competitive societies.
Btw, my daughter also won a martial arts gold medal once. She was so small for her age and skill level, they couldn't find anyone for her to compete with, so she had to fight with a much bigger girl about twice her size. She didn't win on points, but she put on a damned good show and came first in her category...first out of one...
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They're might be a link between America's obsession with Beauty Pageants because it is a reality TV show - and it sells TV.
Beauty pageants like most public competitions are a fad, have survived since the 1950s and lead into careers in the entertainment business. And, it employs folk in the media business.
As far as the OPs thoughts on it - while you have a point about it ruining children; destroying girls self-image; and encouraging great evils in mothers trying to live vicariously through their daughters. It is a little overstated, and perhaps comes from a biased perspective. This can be said of those parents that push their children into child acting, or make their children practice after school in music or the arts, long after the child has lost an interest in the joy of music, sports or art.
It has been over simplified and it is not the way of all mothers who enter their child into a Beauty pageant.
Should it not make it as a form of obsession in Europe? - of course it does not belong there nor will it catch on there. It is a uniquely American thing. Except where will the women get their experience in handling the Miss Universe contests, if there is no contests when they are children? You should see how it flourishes in Central and South America.
Just putting it out there.
Beauty pageants like most public competitions are a fad, have survived since the 1950s and lead into careers in the entertainment business. And, it employs folk in the media business.
As far as the OPs thoughts on it - while you have a point about it ruining children; destroying girls self-image; and encouraging great evils in mothers trying to live vicariously through their daughters. It is a little overstated, and perhaps comes from a biased perspective. This can be said of those parents that push their children into child acting, or make their children practice after school in music or the arts, long after the child has lost an interest in the joy of music, sports or art.
It has been over simplified and it is not the way of all mothers who enter their child into a Beauty pageant.
Should it not make it as a form of obsession in Europe? - of course it does not belong there nor will it catch on there. It is a uniquely American thing. Except where will the women get their experience in handling the Miss Universe contests, if there is no contests when they are children? You should see how it flourishes in Central and South America.
Just putting it out there.
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jac379: I doubt that dressing up and beauty has nothing to do with it. I've made enough theatrical, performance art and dressing up costumes for kids to know how much they like it.
Even theatre can be competitive, with lead parts and minor parts. I do agree it's good for kids, but it can be difficult to handle so that does remain a positive thing for everyone.
I can see the good side of competition, I can see the bad side. I don't want to stop kids having fun and learning, but I do worry about some of the consequences and the social health of competitive societies.
Btw, my daughter also won a martial arts gold medal once. She was so small for her age and skill level, they couldn't find anyone for her to compete with, so she had to fight with a much bigger girl about twice her size. She didn't win on points, but she put on a damned good show and came first in her category...first out of one...
Even theatre can be competitive, with lead parts and minor parts. I do agree it's good for kids, but it can be difficult to handle so that does remain a positive thing for everyone.
I can see the good side of competition, I can see the bad side. I don't want to stop kids having fun and learning, but I do worry about some of the consequences and the social health of competitive societies.
Btw, my daughter also won a martial arts gold medal once. She was so small for her age and skill level, they couldn't find anyone for her to compete with, so she had to fight with a much bigger girl about twice her size. She didn't win on points, but she put on a damned good show and came first in her category...first out of one...
That is wonderful... I bet she was right happy and you wore a smile for the day /week.. well done... good work..
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54xmax: I am curious, what do you think about one more typically American obssesion.
Children Beatuy Pageants
I am personally against it, because for the most part, mothers are living through their children, are ruening their self image, and in effect are emotionaly abusing their children.
They tried to export the franchise to Europe, and Australia. Unsucesfuly, becasue people simply did not accept it in any shape or form. Nor should they.
Children Beatuy Pageants
I am personally against it, because for the most part, mothers are living through their children, are ruening their self image, and in effect are emotionaly abusing their children.
They tried to export the franchise to Europe, and Australia. Unsucesfuly, becasue people simply did not accept it in any shape or form. Nor should they.
Honey boo boo.
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JeanKimberley: They're might be a link between America's obsession with Beauty Pageants because it is a reality TV show - and it sells TV.
Beauty pageants like most public competitions are a fad, have survived since the 1950s and lead into careers in the entertainment business. And, it employs folk in the media business.
As far as the OPs thoughts on it - while you have a point about it ruining children; destroying girls self-image; and encouraging great evils in mothers trying to live vicariously through their daughters. It is a little overstated, and perhaps comes from a biased perspective. This can be said of those parents that push their children into child acting, or make their children practice after school in music or the arts, long after the child has lost an interest in the joy of music, sports or art. It has been over simplified and it is not the way of all mothers who enter their child into a Beauty pageant.
Should it not make it as a form of obsession in Europe? - of course it does not belong there nor will it catch on there. It is a uniquely American thing. Except where will the women get their experience in handling the Miss Universe contests, if there is no contests when they are children? You should see how it flourishes in Central and South America.
Just putting it out there.
Beauty pageants like most public competitions are a fad, have survived since the 1950s and lead into careers in the entertainment business. And, it employs folk in the media business.
As far as the OPs thoughts on it - while you have a point about it ruining children; destroying girls self-image; and encouraging great evils in mothers trying to live vicariously through their daughters. It is a little overstated, and perhaps comes from a biased perspective. This can be said of those parents that push their children into child acting, or make their children practice after school in music or the arts, long after the child has lost an interest in the joy of music, sports or art. It has been over simplified and it is not the way of all mothers who enter their child into a Beauty pageant.
Should it not make it as a form of obsession in Europe? - of course it does not belong there nor will it catch on there. It is a uniquely American thing. Except where will the women get their experience in handling the Miss Universe contests, if there is no contests when they are children? You should see how it flourishes in Central and South America.
Just putting it out there.
JK... I am sure that experience to win a beauty contest could come from many sources.. I mean... if your beauty pageants are just that... American beauty pageants.. then where do you suppose the rest of the worlds contestants learn ..
My guess is from other hobbies that they take on, which may or not include beauty..
Our Jennifer Hawkins managed just fine..
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54xmax: I am curious, what do you think about one more typically American obssesion.
Children Beatuy Pageants
I am personally against it, because for the most part, mothers are living through their children, are ruening their self image, and in effect are emotionaly abusing their children.
They tried to export the franchise to Europe, and Australia. Unsucesfuly, becasue people simply did not accept it in any shape or form. Nor should they.
Children Beatuy Pageants
I am personally against it, because for the most part, mothers are living through their children, are ruening their self image, and in effect are emotionaly abusing their children.
They tried to export the franchise to Europe, and Australia. Unsucesfuly, becasue people simply did not accept it in any shape or form. Nor should they.
They tried to have it in Ireland. The venue refused but they managed to have it run in another venue. I don't think there has been one since.
I think they are disgusting. And the mothers are scum.
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Usually low IQ mothers invlove their daughters to atend pageant beauty contests.
Like Honey Boo Boo in America, a good example.
Like parents who is puting tons of their children/babies pictures in Facebook, it's not for their kids, it's for parents to boost their egos.
Like Honey Boo Boo in America, a good example.
Like parents who is puting tons of their children/babies pictures in Facebook, it's not for their kids, it's for parents to boost their egos.
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Lilly32: Usually low IQ mothers invlove their daughters to atend pageant beauty contests.
Like Honey Boo Boo in America, a good example.
Like parents who is puting tons of their children/babies pictures in Facebook, it's not for their kids, it's for parents to boost their egos.
Like Honey Boo Boo in America, a good example.
Like parents who is puting tons of their children/babies pictures in Facebook, it's not for their kids, it's for parents to boost their egos.
Exactly
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not every childs parents do it, id 1% of the worlds poputaions do it so?
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Oprah Winfray 1971 Miss Fire Prevention & Miss Black Tennessee
Halle Berry 1986 Miss Ohio USA
Sharon Stone 1976 Miss Crawford County
Vanessa Wiliams 1984 Miss America
Diane Sawyer, 1963 Americas Junior Miss
Gretch Calson 1989 Miss America
Halle Berry 1986 Miss Ohio USA
Sharon Stone 1976 Miss Crawford County
Vanessa Wiliams 1984 Miss America
Diane Sawyer, 1963 Americas Junior Miss
Gretch Calson 1989 Miss America
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54xmax: First we need to change within ourselves of course, then step by step, change the world to be a better place for us, and our kids.
Precisely my feelings about misusing the term 'schizophrenic' and my objection to complaints about political correctness.
This just popped into my mind and I wondered if anyone had any thoughts on it:
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jac379: Precisely my feelings about misusing the term 'schizophrenic' and my objection to complaints about political correctness.
This just popped into my mind and I wondered if anyone had any thoughts on it:
This just popped into my mind and I wondered if anyone had any thoughts on it:
This particular clip or Shirley Temple in general jac
(I was inspired to go read up about her early career days, interesting
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jac379: Precisely my feelings about misusing the term 'schizophrenic' and my objection to complaints about political correctness.
This just popped into my mind and I wondered if anyone had any thoughts on it:
This just popped into my mind and I wondered if anyone had any thoughts on it:
Some of these threads hit home. A friend of mine years ago hadthis Illness, and was not diagnosed until too late. The group of us
could not figure it out as he tried to quell it with Alcohol. Sadly
he Killed himself at age 32, so tragic.
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Bad Idea!
Especially what it has morphed into!
Especially what it has morphed into!
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Children Beaty Pageants ( Elaborate your answer )(Vote Below)
Children Beatuy Pageants
I am personally against it, because for the most part, mothers are living through their children, are ruening their self image, and in effect are emotionaly abusing their children.
They tried to export the franchise to Europe, and Australia. Unsucesfuly, becasue people simply did not accept it in any shape or form. Nor should they.