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Nov 26, 2014 1:24 PM CSTFerguson Case !!

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Did they get the Ferguson Case verdict right ??!!
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Nov 26, 2014 1:43 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
MrRick77: Did they get the Ferguson Case verdict right ??!!
Since they had to go one way or another, as I stated in another post, the benefit of the doubt (and there certainly was doubt) goes to the accused. That's the whole idea of why we have America. The officer was the defendant in this action, and he is entitled to the benefit of the doubt. So, yes, they got it right.
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Nov 26, 2014 1:49 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
Rightthumbs up
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Nov 26, 2014 1:50 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
Leo_7: Right
I guess
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Nov 26, 2014 1:51 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
Leo_7: I guess
way to be firm!!laugh
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Nov 26, 2014 1:53 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
thumbs up RIGHT!!! thumbs up


~JOHN~cheers
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Nov 26, 2014 2:01 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
MrRick77: Did they get the Ferguson Case verdict right ??!!


The question should be about what both involved did, and how much dangerous were their behaviours which led to the outcome.

It's not so simple as judging someone as a deliberate murderer.
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Nov 26, 2014 2:10 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,230 Posts
GUZMAN1: The question should be about what both involved did, and how much dangerous were their behaviours which led to the outcome.

It's not so simple as judging someone as a deliberate murderer.




There's more to it. Please see my last reply in other Ferguson thread.
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Nov 26, 2014 2:20 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
secretagent09: There's more to it. Please see my last reply in other Ferguson thread.


I read your comments. I don't comment when I only know few of the facts.

In any case, I trust more courts and juries than outsider opinions. wave
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Nov 26, 2014 2:42 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
suds00
suds00suds00crown point, Indiana USA13 Threads 160 Posts
that was the verdict of a grand jury,where the burden of proof is lower.
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Nov 26, 2014 3:07 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
why do they have to shoot to kill?, why not just shoot them in the leg or somewhere to bring them down but alive.
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Nov 26, 2014 3:19 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
Orien3: why do they have to shoot to kill?, why not just shoot them in the leg or somewhere to bring them down but alive.

ever fired a Gun?
I mean in a Stress-Situation,or after some physical exertion,maybe having been assaulted and injured as that Officer was?
You might could attempt that if you haven't got a 290-pounder charging at you!
Besides,Police is trained to aim for the biggest Bodymass!
I know,Hollywood makes look easy,shooting the Gun out the Hand of a Criminal,or shoot him in his Knee,but reality is a bit different!
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Nov 26, 2014 4:17 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,230 Posts
Conrad73: ever fired a Gun?
I mean in a Stress-Situation,or after some physical exertion,maybe having been assaulted and injured as that Officer was?
You might could attempt that if you haven't got a 290-pounder charging at you!
Besides,Police is trained to aim for the biggest Bodymass!
I know,Hollywood makes look easy,shooting the Gun out the Hand of a Criminal,or shoot him in his Knee,but reality is a bit different!



I also had the question of why didn't he shoot his legs.

In his interview with ABC news, George Stefanapolous (sp?) Officer said: " I looked down the eyesight of my gun and his head was there and I shot him".

I learned a long time ago from a police officer that if I was ever questioned after I shot someone that I shouldn't say I wanted to kill them. The better way to say it is....I wanted to stop him coming towards me. The former way proves intent and that will get me the needle, in most cases.

In Officer Wilsons situation his intent was to kill Michael Brown after he knew that Brown wanted to kill him.
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Nov 26, 2014 5:28 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
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Nov 26, 2014 11:51 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
PrettyPrescious
PrettyPresciousPrettyPresciousRenton, Washington USA8 Threads 2 Polls 355 Posts
An ex cop on a talk radio show said that cops are taught to shoot to kill. This is for 2 reasons: #1 to stop the threat once and for all, and #2 to prevent years of lawsuits for injuries. I believe this would explain why they are taught to shoot the largest body mass, and it would also be easier to hit than say, a knee.
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Nov 27, 2014 8:16 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
PrettyPrescious: An ex cop on a talk radio show said that cops are taught to shoot to kill. This is for 2 reasons: #1 to stop the threat once and for all, and #2 to prevent years of lawsuits for injuries. I believe this would explain why they are taught to shoot the largest body mass, and it would also be easier to hit than say, a knee.


Really? Men and women police officers are instructed to shoot the largest body mass when they are threatened, primarily because in the heat of the moment their aim accuracy can really suffer.
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Nov 28, 2014 2:47 AM CST Ferguson Case !!
PrettyPrescious
PrettyPresciousPrettyPresciousRenton, Washington USA8 Threads 2 Polls 355 Posts
Also makes sense
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Nov 28, 2014 7:42 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
StandardsFirst
StandardsFirstStandardsFirstPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania USA24 Threads 24 Polls 61 Posts
Who knows. They have witnesses that are contradicting each other, and should not speak if unsure or make that part clear. Also, there could have been mistakes on suspects side and also the ONE cops side (not ALL cops though). People are talking like they are all the same.
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Nov 30, 2014 12:32 AM CST Ferguson Case !!
lov8b
lov8blov8bcolumbia, Missouri USA2 Threads 1 Polls 38 Posts
If Mike Brown been arrested by a HOMELAND SECURITY PEOPLE, It may be brutal than the standard police unit.professor
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Dec 1, 2014 6:44 AM CST Ferguson Case !!
MrRick77: Did they get the Ferguson Case verdict right ??!!


This case is over - the only cases coming up are the violent protesters who have and will continue to get arrested and the federal and the civil cases that will arise out of it.

Lesson learned - the police force must diversify - it should be made up of members of the general population..... but change comes slowly to the southern states.
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Dec 1, 2014 7:03 AM CST Ferguson Case !!
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
JeanKimberley: This case is over - the only cases coming up are the violent protesters who have and will continue to get arrested and the federal and the civil cases that will arise out of it.

Lesson learned - the police force must diversify - it should be made up of members of the general population..... but change comes slowly to the southern states.



Same issue exist up north. I think It's not like you can blame eeo recruitment efforts though. Major cities up north are reassessing how to attract more women and minorities.

In Columbus:
Amy Delong, head of the city’s Civil Service Commission, said the group has discussed with (Mayor) Coleman three changes in the background standards:

• Candidates would not be removed if they took a drug not prescribed to them such as a Percocet or Ambien no more than once.

• The city would not disqualify applicants if their drivers license was suspended for financial reasons, such as nonpayment of car insurance.

• Applicants would not be removed if they admit to minor physical or emotional domestic violence in the past 10 years, such as a fight with a sibling as minors that didn’t result in criminal charges.

Police- and fire-union officials have said the standards should not be changed (LOWERED), because of the sensitive nature of public-safety jobs.

The U.S. Department of justice has filed suits against cities, everywhere, for not having better diversity of women and minorities.
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Dec 1, 2014 7:58 AM CST Ferguson Case !!
ajp7614
ajp7614ajp7614Afton, Michigan USA1 Posts
In my opinion they got it all wrong. A man with his hands in the air is obviously surrendering so Wilson did not have to shoot him. Besides that shooting, police officers are given non-lethal weapons to use as a first option instead of resorting to their firearms. If the officer in Cleveland, Ohio had used non-lethal force on that 12 year old boy he would be alive today. That officer killed that boy over a toy and should be tried for murder. Cops are getting away with to much violence and it's time to hold them accountable. I say. HANDS UP----DON'T SHOOT.
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Dec 1, 2014 9:56 AM CST Ferguson Case !!
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
GUZMAN1: “Professor Occupy”, good nickname.
that group wants to come in also,n guys who wear masks,also.over n done?
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Dec 1, 2014 10:14 AM CST Ferguson Case !!
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
reb56: that group wants to come in also,n guys who wear masks,also.over n done?


By here these protest makers are very popular from a few years.

occupy the media.
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Dec 1, 2014 11:43 AM CST Ferguson Case !!
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
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reb56: that group wants to come in also,n guys who wear masks,also.over n done?

would be over and done with but sheeple believe media fairy tales,
holder and subversives tryin to stir up civil war, need to shine lite
on them & media, always makin 20 loosers look like 300 victims, fairy tales don't pop out of thin air that stuff is scripted, planed, managed
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Dec 1, 2014 12:07 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Protestors today through the USA want everyone to walk off the job because of what happened to Mr. Brown in Ferguson.

President Obama meeting with civil rights leaders today about what happened to Mr. brown in Ferguson.
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Dec 1, 2014 12:09 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
Orien3: why do they have to shoot to kill?, why not just shoot them in the leg or somewhere to bring them down but alive.
there is a good way to capture the person by using the Dart Gun
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Dec 1, 2014 12:14 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
ali110: there is a good way to capture the person by using the Dart Gun



Too risky, because a dart is usually fired from a rifle and can penetrate and leave a victim, possibly harming anyone behind the intended target.... Whereas, bullets most police use are designed to tumble around inside the intended target and not exit.
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Dec 1, 2014 12:53 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
galrads: Too risky, because a dart is usually fired from a rifle and can penetrate and leave a victim, possibly harming anyone behind the intended target.... Whereas, bullets most police use are designed to tumble around inside the intended target and not exit.

Most of the time "Reduced Load" Ammunition!
"Tumbling" Bullets are inherently inaccurate!
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Dec 1, 2014 1:06 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Conrad73: Most of the time "Reduced Load" Ammunition!
"Tumbling" Bullets are inherently inaccurate!



Hm, maybe I should have used expanding or hollow-point, mushroom on contact instead of tumble style bullets in my previous post. Police here are required to use this type ammunition to qualify to carry. In any case the hollow point bullet leaves a larger hole if it does exit body mass, but it doesn't have much energy left after that.

Growing in popularity with some police here is the Mi-bullet or multiple impact bullet, expands into four interconnected parts as it exits the barrel, improving accuracy.
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Dec 1, 2014 1:28 PM CST Ferguson Case !!
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
galrads: Protestors today through the USA want everyone to walk off the job because of what happened to Mr. Brown in Ferguson.

President Obama meeting with civil rights leaders today about what happened to Mr. brown in Ferguson.


this just came out

Al Sharpton will attend Monday White House civil rights meeting as White House proposes $263 million plan to put body-worn cameras in police departments and reviews police 'militarization'

it would be great if charlatan would do his freddies fashion mart shtick/routine while at the big white traylor, think anybody knows what I am talking about? show him for what he is?
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