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Feb 14, 2015 11:28 AM CSTilluminati.

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your thoughts on new world order,etc.
Feb 14, 2015 12:00 PM CST illuminati.


The Illuminati, was a small freethinker society founded in 1776 by a man named Adam Weishaupt. Among the group's goals were the opposition of prejudice, superstition, and abuse of political power. In the universe that rational people agree to recognize as reality, the Illuminati ceased to exist in 1787, when Karl Theodor, Prince-Elector of Bavaria, had the group banned for spreading sedition

In the parallel universe where the likes of Henry Makow and David Icke hang their hats (and the snakes living therein), they not only have continued to exist, but have developed such enormous capacity for secrecy, power, and control that the complete absence of evidence for their existence, power, and control ...proves their existence, power, and control.



The spread of the Illuminati legend and continued belief in them today can be traced back to the book Proofs of a Conspiracy by John Robinson, a 1798 anti-Freemasonry book (the Freemasons and Illuminati are often regarded as one and the same by conspiracy theorists). Proofs of a Conspiracy has become a source of inspiration to many conspiracy theorists since its initial publication and has been reprinted by, among others, the John Birch Society. Many modern variations of the Illuminati conspiracy have them being a controlling influence in the New World Order. Another influential series was "Mémoires pour servir a l'histoire du Jacobinisme" by Abbé Augustin de Barruel.


The alleged continued existence of the "Illuminati" looms large in many conspiracy theories, tall tales by evangelical Satanic Panic-fakers like Mike Warnke and John Todd, crank anti-Semitic and anti-Masonic writings, pseudolaw theories, etc. Depending on which version of the "Illuminati" story one believes, they are either a Satanic, Masonic, Zionist, atheist, reptilian,or secular financial conspiracy. Despite the many different versions of the conspiracy, each version claims to have evidence that they are correct. They secretly control world events and their symbol, the all-seeing eye, is on the back of the U.S. $1 bill. This belief, in whatever version, is patently ridiculous but it persists. When the Founding Fathers designed the Great Seal, the all-seeing eye was proposed by members of design committees who were not Freemasons. It was also not named the "all-seeing eye," as the cranks believe, but rather the "eye of providence," a symbol for God.

Several 20th century conspiracy theory books such as those by William Guy Carr and Des Griffin combined John Robinson's allegations about the Illuminati and Freemasonry with those of the hoax book, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, to come up with an explicitly anti-Semitic version of the Illuminati theory. Jack Chick and Alberto Rivera on the other hand promoted an anti-Roman Catholic variant of the theory, alleging the Illuminati was a creation of the Vatican.



Robertson, it seems, has company among other theocratic media weirdos personalities. Rick Wiles is under the impression that the Illuminati is not only linked to the 9/11 attacks but that the new One World Trade Center is actually a tribute to what he terms the Free Mason/Illuminati New World Order.


Mike Warnke and John Todd, mentioned above, are two fake ex-Satanist Protestant evangelists. They have both described the Illuminati as the highest level of Satanism. Warnke claimed he learned of the Illuminati when attending a high-level conference of Satanists and Witches, shortly before he dropped out of Satanism to join the Navy and convert to Christianity. Todd claimed to have been a member of the Illuminati himself, which he said was a high council of druids secretly working to destroy Christianity and make witchcraft the official religion of the United States. Belief in the Illuminati as a Satanic conspiracy continues to be held by many evangelical Christians, despite both Warnke and Todd being exposed as frauds.


laugh
Feb 14, 2015 12:47 PM CST illuminati.
OutsideofBali
OutsideofBaliOutsideofBalifarfaraway, Aargau Switzerland158 Posts
blues Thanks Conrad, the bubble I've lived in just burst crying
Feb 14, 2015 12:57 PM CST illuminati.
Not just Illumanti, but Freemasons and Skull & Bones societies.

Even though, Freemasons claim that they are not a "secret society, but a society with secrets". The New World Order has always been here. Way before there was a "United States of America".
Feb 14, 2015 1:00 PM CST illuminati.
Snookums3
Snookums3Snookums3Johannesburg, South Africa87 Threads 36 Polls 1,495 Posts
reb56: your thoughts on new world order,etc.


I read a book about the illuminati

I am not into politics, and would rather not openly discuss my ideas on a new world order.

It is obvious to someone with eyes what is going on. My vote will make no difference as to what will happen.

Enjoy!!!
Feb 14, 2015 1:20 PM CST illuminati.
Conspiracy theories like the illuminati are a distraction welcomed to those who can't face the truth. The culprit in human despair isn't the Illuminati, or the Bilderbergs, or the Rothschilds, or the Freemasons, or the Zionists, or the Satanists, or the Jesuits,or The anti-Christ, or anything resembling those. It's easy to believe it's one of those, because in your subconscious you are thinking, "Well if the _______ is revealed as the controllers of the world and if we depose them, the world will go back to being sunshine and rainbows and perfection!"
The reality is that it is never going to happen like that. Conspiracy theories, like voting, only show that people still place blind faith in the "right" person in authority instead if the "wrong" person. Either way, people who believe this refuse to see that it is and has always been the State that oppresses people. It is the nature of government itself to oppress.


Daniel Hawkins (High-Schooler)laugh
Feb 14, 2015 1:30 PM CST illuminati.
Harryonline
HarryonlineHarryonlineLondon, Outer London, England UK5 Threads 1,024 Posts
There was a relatively recent documentary on the Queen, where she says that there are powers at be who are forces at work in the shadows, that are running things.
Feb 14, 2015 1:42 PM CST illuminati.
Montpellier
MontpellierMontpellierParis, Ile-de-France France45 Posts
Conrad73: Conspiracy theories like the illuminati are a distraction welcomed to those who can't face the truth. The culprit in human despair isn't the Illuminati, or the Bilderbergs, or the Rothschilds, or the Freemasons, or the Zionists, or the Satanists, or the Jesuits,or The anti-Christ, or anything resembling those. It's easy to believe it's one of those, because in your subconscious you are thinking, "Well if the _______ is revealed as the controllers of the world and if we depose them, the world will go back to being sunshine and rainbows and perfection!"
The reality is that it is never going to happen like that. Conspiracy theories, like voting, only show that people still place blind faith in the "right" person in authority instead if the "wrong" person. Either way, people who believe this refuse to see that it is and has always been the State that oppresses people. It is the nature of government itself to oppress.Daniel Hawkins (High-Schooler)



Please note: The 'Illuminati' has never had a political agenda. Those interested in earlier origins of the 'Illuminati' may wish to direct their researches to Thutmose III.
Feb 14, 2015 1:45 PM CST illuminati.
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 6,786 Posts
reb56: your thoughts on new world order,etc.


I would describe it as an emergent conspiracy. Or an informal conspiracy. It's not a formal, deliberate conspiracy in the sense the word is typically used; there's no secret council of elders meeting to plot and plan their evil deeds to subjugate the world. Instead something resembling a conspiracy develops from the collective actions of a civilisation in which nearly all of its players behave alike, as a hive.
Feb 14, 2015 2:04 PM CST illuminati.
Harryonline: There was a relatively recent documentary on the Queen, where she says that there are powers at be who are forces at work in the shadows, that are running things.


right. that would be Wall St and Lloyd's on alternating days
Feb 15, 2015 7:57 AM CST illuminati.
There is no doubt that governments are only puppets with very little real power.

I think there are a few very rich and influencial individuals and companies pulling the strings.
Feb 15, 2015 8:35 AM CST illuminati.
postneoludite
postneoluditepostneoluditeWest Vancouver, British Columbia Canada47 Threads 28 Polls 1,307 Posts
Harryonline: There was a relatively recent documentary on the Queen, where she says that there are powers at be who are forces at work in the shadows, that are running things.

She gets like that.
Reigny days and Mondays always get one down. sad
Feb 15, 2015 9:00 AM CST illuminati.
postneoludite
postneoluditepostneoluditeWest Vancouver, British Columbia Canada47 Threads 28 Polls 1,307 Posts
The new world order will require a high degree of self-delusion, just like the old world order.

So what's wrong with that?

You could choose the route of hellfire, or conspiracy theories, or something newer like this:



Either way, you will be under pressure to believe what someone else expects you to believe and behave the way someone else expects you to behave.

My personal self-delusion is that best best days are ahead of me. Everything won't be tickety-boo every day.

Now everybody sing

Feb 15, 2015 9:08 AM CST illuminati.
postneoludite: The new world order will require a high degree of self-delusion, just like the old world order.

So what's wrong with that?

You could choose the route of hellfire, or conspiracy theories, or something newer like this:
Either way, you will be under pressure to believe what someone else expects you to believe and behave the way someone else expects you to behave.

My personal self-delusion is that best best days are ahead of me. Everything won't be tickety-boo every day.

Now everybody sing



I tend not to over-think and worry about things outside of my control.

Ants in the ground don't worry about our politics. And we are about as insignificant as them in the grand scheme of things!

So, party on! cheering
Feb 15, 2015 9:26 AM CST illuminati.
postneoludite
postneoluditepostneoluditeWest Vancouver, British Columbia Canada47 Threads 28 Polls 1,307 Posts
mollybaby: I tend not to over-think and worry about things outside of my control.

Ants in the ground don't worry about our politics. And we are about as insignificant as them in the grand scheme of things!

So, party on!

It's expected grin

And good thinking.

The new world order expects you to over-think so that you will drive yourself mad and become very susceptible to the simple answers that THEY dole out like candy on Halloween
Feb 15, 2015 9:27 AM CST illuminati.
reb56: your thoughts on new world order,etc.


I am always more concerned with the disorder of things..... drinking
Feb 15, 2015 9:27 AM CST illuminati.
bungallow55
bungallow55bungallow55Lakeland, Florida USA297 Threads 14 Polls 5,615 Posts
reb56: your thoughts on new world order,etc.


Rand Paul?laugh
Feb 16, 2015 11:45 AM CST illuminati.
Snookums3: I read a book about the illuminati

I am not into politics, and would rather not openly discuss my ideas on a new world order.

It is obvious to someone with eyes what is going on. My vote will make no difference as to what will happen.

Enjoy!!!
yes,check out 2013 ones exposed,they have split to trilateral/younger,33 degree masons n skull n bones/dead give away,like kiss my azz,bush/kerry ran for prez win/win for skull n bones,ppl just ignore it,last days anyway/population control,etc.manic monday/conrad,lol.
Feb 18, 2015 10:34 AM CST illuminati.
bungallow55: Rand Paul?
yep,who owns him,etc.which order,KOCH bros own wisc.gov.in race!
Feb 18, 2015 10:51 AM CST illuminati.
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA1 Threads 4,261 Posts
Iluminati is any enity that thinks they know what is best for you.
Like Obamacare forced on people to have healthcare. In reality
they are looking to make slaves out of the people. laugh
Feb 18, 2015 10:52 AM CST illuminati.
Feb 18, 2015 10:57 AM CST illuminati.
postneoludite: It's expected

And good thinking.

The new world order expects you to over-think so that you will drive yourself mad and become very susceptible to the simple answers that THEY dole out like candy on Halloween
thx n string,too.hard to get back in to post/rattle a cage?just lookin for signs,its gods will/end of age,beheadings,etc.
Feb 19, 2015 10:25 AM CST illuminati.
Harryonline: There was a relatively recent documentary on the Queen, where she says that there are powers at be who are forces at work in the shadows, that are running things.
yup/shadow govt.worth over 200 million u get drafted in trilateral clinton/bush,etc.if business is in a part,look for 13 in logo/mc donalds,etc.prez has 12 muslim advisors,hes 13,hm.
Feb 19, 2015 10:37 AM CST illuminati.
Harryonline
HarryonlineHarryonlineLondon, Outer London, England UK5 Threads 1,024 Posts
reb56: yup/shadow govt.worth over 200 million u get drafted in trilateral clinton/bush,etc.if business is in a part,look for 13 in logo/mc donalds,etc.prez has 12 muslim advisors,hes 13,hm.


There are those who are above the law and no one can touch them.

I can say that there is many things going on internationally where there is no one watching it (to even prevent it or to catch them out). There are no organization doing this in many fields...and besides who is going to fund them independently and who is going to watch the watchers.

With the field I am in, this what I am talking about can be called organized white collar crime (and I know it is affecting ordinary people where medicine is concerned)
Feb 19, 2015 10:56 AM CST illuminati.
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland104 Threads 14,241 Posts
Would the free masons be classed as illuminati,

And those in the elite that have secret society's ,,that exist of people with power of controll

Over the public so called sheep,

They themselves are bla bla with their new found beliefs inverted comas " based on whats gone before,

Are they the untouchables that consist of a variet of people's in power,
Feb 19, 2015 11:30 AM CST illuminati.
peachmelba: Would the free masons be classed as illuminati,

And those in the elite that have secret society's ,,that exist of people with power of controll

Over the public so called sheep,

They themselves are bla bla with their new found beliefs inverted comas " based on whats gone before,

Are they the untouchables that consist of a variet of people's in power,
mainly just called the elite,many spin offs/skull n bones,etc.new world order,etc.
Feb 19, 2015 11:33 AM CST illuminati.
Harryonline: There are those who are above the law and no one can touch them.

I can say that there is many things going on internationally where there is no one watching it (to even prevent it or to catch them out). There are no organization doing this in many fields...and besides who is going to fund them independently and who is going to watch the watchers.

With the field I am in, this what I am talking about can be called organized white collar crime (and I know it is affecting ordinary people where medicine is concerned)
rockefellers,etc.superrich,in power over 3000 yrs.they dont like internet,outs too many of them!
Feb 19, 2015 11:54 AM CST illuminati.
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland104 Threads 14,241 Posts
I'm in the elite,


conversing


Ssssh don't tell anyone,
Feb 19, 2015 11:57 AM CST illuminati.
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland104 Threads 14,241 Posts
peachmelba: I'm in the elite, Ssssh don't tell anyone,





We believe that there is a third dimension in the surreality of your dreams but only we the elite have the fourth dimension ,

We ate on the top floor of manhatten skpscraper,


laugh
Feb 20, 2015 10:56 AM CST illuminati.
peachmelba: Would the free masons be classed as illuminati,

And those in the elite that have secret society's ,,that exist of people with power of controll

Over the public so called sheep,

They themselves are bla bla with their new found beliefs inverted comas " based on whats gone before,

Are they the untouchables that consist of a variet of people's in power,
yup,have 2 unelected monitors in senate,who tells senate what bills to send to prez!?voting here is a joke,electorial college vote prez in,i turned in card/wangers,lol.
Feb 20, 2015 11:03 AM CST illuminati.
peachmelba: We believe that there is a third dimension in the surreality of your dreams but only we the elite have the fourth dimension ,

We ate on the top floor of manhatten skpscraper,
wealth will do that,live on 13th floor?trademark/666.

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