It’s a great idea to have drug testing in the workplace so workers can ind out which drug they like. After all, those who work from home test drugs on themselves. Everyone should have that freedom.
Yes, even though it'd probably send us all back into recession as some of the most ambitious and talented people I know are on cocaine and the economy would crash if we lost them all at once.
Maybe if we could exempt cocaine and focus on the purely loserish drugs, or gradually bring in testing so people can clean up at a faster rate then they're getting sacked.
Obstinance_Works: Yes, even though it'd probably send us all back into recession as some of the most ambitious and talented people I know are on cocaine and the economy would crash if we lost them all at once.
Maybe if we could exempt cocaine and focus on the purely loserish drugs, or gradually bring in testing so people can clean up at a faster rate then they're getting sacked.
Kattte: It’s a great idea to have drug testing in the workplace so workers can ind out which drug they like. After all, those who work from home test drugs on themselves. Everyone should have that freedom.
No. Definitely a "hot potato" topic around the water-cooler. Some jobs have some requirements - ie; as a member of a flight crew I cannot indulge for a set number of hours before duty,....but if I can meet those requirements, I am good to go - but only if the drugs are legal or prescribed. Many jobs do not endanger or jeopardize lives,....constitutionality also comes into play. Should parents be "licensed" before having children, tested for drugs and genetic pre-dispositions that will cost taxpayers in health care costs? An interesting poll.
For my current main job, for some tasks I have to use alcohol wipes for sterilising equipment before carrying out tests.
Well, something out of the ordinary happened and I had to test again...and again...and again...
Anyway, once I was finished and had sorted the problem, I became aware of a peculiar feeling.
As alcohol can be absorbed through the skin and I'm such a light-weight, I realised I was just a little bit tipsy and horribly embarassed for the next hour.
I think perhaps testing might need to take accidental imbibing into account before terminating people's employment.
jac_the_gripper: For my current main job, for some tasks I have to use alcohol wipes for sterilising equipment before carrying out tests.
Well, something out of the ordinary happened and I had to test again...and again...and again...
Anyway, once I was finished and had sorted the problem, I became aware of a peculiar feeling.
As alcohol can be absorbed through the skin and I'm such a light-weight, I realised I was just a little bit tipsy and horribly embarassed for the next hour.
I think perhaps testing might need to take accidental imbibing into account before terminating people's employment.
Indeed,...the harmless ingestion of a muffin with poppyseeds can often lead to a "positive" for opiates. Yet, there is a "section" of society that demands dismissal for ANY "infraction" in regards to there puritanical overlording of what people can and cannot, and should and should not do.
Absolutely not, but then again, I'm self employed.
I have worked for companies that drug test, never had a worry about passing, but I have also refused to work for ones that do test, simply because they do.
I'm completely against it, it's an invasion of privacy, and often only applies to a certain part of the workforce in areas where they do test anyway.
Obstinance_Works: Yes, even though it'd probably send us all back into recession as some of the most ambitious and talented people I know are on cocaine and the economy would crash if we lost them all at once.
Maybe if we could exempt cocaine and focus on the purely loserish drugs, or gradually bring in testing so people can clean up at a faster rate then they're getting sacked.
If I was the best employer in town paying the highest wages in the finest conditions then I'd bring in drug testing and a whole range of other paternalistic social policies to select and condition the best workers. In exchange for treating workers well workers have to behave properly and the high wages and top conditions would pay for themselves because of this superior workforce and inevitably low staff turnover.
The more typically misanthropic employer can be as liberal as he likes and let his workers do what they want because he'll sure as hell do anything he wants to them.
Obstinance_Works: If I was the best employer in town paying the highest wages in the finest conditions then I'd bring in drug testing and a whole range of other paternalistic social policies to select and condition the best workers. In exchange for treating workers well workers have to behave properly and the high wages and top conditions would pay for themselves because of this superior workforce and inevitably low staff turnover.
The more typically misanthropic employer can be as liberal as he likes and let his workers do what they want because he'll sure as hell do anything he wants to them.
This philanthropic paternalism may seem out of place, but what it really is is premature. For the moment state-regulations(somewhat)prevent misanthropic employers doing what they want to working people, but not for much longer. The employment laws we have are not competitive on the global stage, there's no money left to subsidise them, and it will soon be the case that we can no longer afford the universal protections and privileges of a first world country.
And that's where paternalism chimes in. Paternalism is how developing nations become first world nations - from the Far East today to the Quakers of Victorian England - whereas the prevailing cultural ethos of today is how first world countries sink into underdevelopment.
if safety is not an issue, i think a person's employer should judge an employee on performance.
when safety is involved, i understand that preventative actions can be required for the safety of all.
now.... who or how do we decide what's safe.....?
(i worked with a woman for years that was unstable and created a lot of grief for a lot of folks including her co-workers, employer, and clients because of both her inferior work ethic and her personality....but she wasn't on drugs...
and at the same job, there was a guy that routinely did drugs (smoked pot on his own time, not before or at work. he was fabulous at his job, the clients loved him and he was fun to work with...)
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