Is child support just about wealth redistribution (26)
DDawson59: 'its my body and I can do what I want with it' and get paid for doing it.
I don't get the correlation between the thread title, the contents of the poll choices and "it's my body and I can do what I want with it" and get paid for doing it.
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It is because a child has a right to be supported by his parents. No kid should be left to starve.
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It's not all about the custodial parent being the one to get paid child support. There are child support agencies that distribute the payments, but some may not be distributing all of the payment per recipient.
Case in point, I've been paying child support through a CS agency all throughout my children's life spans, up until they turned young adult (18 years old.) My ex was not receiving the amount I was court-ordered to send and in fact, at some points were not receiving any payments at all. I was paying in, it was not being sent out. Lawsuit.
As well, some child support agencies may withhold sending out payments for up to two-four weeks. Why? Because that allows the agency to draw interest for those weeks, allowing them to make a profit on your children's money. They have no right to do so, but very few providers and/or recipiants are aware of it happening.
Another lawsuit, but you'd best be prepared to supply substantial evidence, and generally requires having the provider and recipient working together with a neutral lawyer.
I have no problem paying child support for my children. I have a problem with the system profiting and stealing their money.
So anyone who is paying child support, you best make certain that your children are receiving what you're sending.
Case in point, I've been paying child support through a CS agency all throughout my children's life spans, up until they turned young adult (18 years old.) My ex was not receiving the amount I was court-ordered to send and in fact, at some points were not receiving any payments at all. I was paying in, it was not being sent out. Lawsuit.
As well, some child support agencies may withhold sending out payments for up to two-four weeks. Why? Because that allows the agency to draw interest for those weeks, allowing them to make a profit on your children's money. They have no right to do so, but very few providers and/or recipiants are aware of it happening.
Another lawsuit, but you'd best be prepared to supply substantial evidence, and generally requires having the provider and recipient working together with a neutral lawyer.
I have no problem paying child support for my children. I have a problem with the system profiting and stealing their money.
So anyone who is paying child support, you best make certain that your children are receiving what you're sending.
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so glad those days are behind me. lol
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Jaysus Christ 
do you realize ur kids could one day read this?
What conclusion would they draw out of it?
That they were nothing but an 'expense' for you!
do you realize ur kids could one day read this?What conclusion would they draw out of it?
That they were nothing but an 'expense' for you!
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I know who you are
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You made helped make them buddy, you are responsible for them.
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Foxworth: Jaysus Christ do you realize ur kids could one day read this?
What conclusion would they draw out of it?
That they were nothing but an 'expense' for you!
What conclusion would they draw out of it?
That they were nothing but an 'expense' for you!
Let them eat cake
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YouMeUs: It's not all about the custodial parent being the one to get paid child support. There are child support agencies that distribute the payments, but some may not be distributing all of the payment per recipient.
Case in point, I've been paying child support through a CS agency all throughout my children's life spans, up until they turned young adult (18 years old.) My ex was not receiving the amount I was court-ordered to send and in fact, at some points were not receiving any payments at all. I was paying in, it was not being sent out. Lawsuit.
As well, some child support agencies may withhold sending out payments for up to two-four weeks. Why? Because that allows the agency to draw interest for those weeks, allowing them to make a profit on your children's money. They have no right to do so, but very few providers and/or recipiants are aware of it happening.
Another lawsuit, but you'd best be prepared to supply substantial evidence, and generally requires having the provider and recipient working together with a neutral lawyer.
I have no problem paying child support for my children. I have a problem with the system profiting and stealing their money.
So anyone who is paying child support, you best make certain that your children are receiving what you're sending.
I come from the Helen Reddy "I am woman, hear me roar" generation, so I may have some beliefs and observations from, and of, that era. Don't mistake my meaning: I am a 150% champion of equal rights for all. Here's the rub--women should be completely equal to men, in every aspect: fairness in employment, financial institutions (i.e. it is currently STILL more difficult for women to obtain loans than men) and so on. Assuming that the best case scenario is or becomes the status quo, then here is the way I see it theoretically: She decides to get a divorce, and they have two grade-school age kids. They are both working in good professions, and, (although it doesn't matter for the moment), they are both making about the same amount of money. He agrees to let her have the house, which is carrying a 50% mortgage of, say 700.00 monthly. The children's combined monthly cost for groceries, school supplies, and medical insurance is 400.00. Here is what is FAIR-- She already gets ownership of the house, which has been 50% paid off. He does not owe her for this; he has relinquished it to her already. So, for the sake of the kids' housing, which he would have to pay none-the-less, he pays half of half the remaining mortgage. ($175.00). Likewise, he pays half of the kids' combined monthly cost ($200.00). Other non-essentials he pays half, but there needs to be room for negotiation. (Not every child gets or needs ballet lessons, art classes, expensive trips, etc..) but, let's say the annual average agreed upon is %1000.00 (he pays about $45.00 more a month). His fair share monthly should be $420.00 for both children. This business of draining the dad so the mom can live high on the hog is BS.Case in point, I've been paying child support through a CS agency all throughout my children's life spans, up until they turned young adult (18 years old.) My ex was not receiving the amount I was court-ordered to send and in fact, at some points were not receiving any payments at all. I was paying in, it was not being sent out. Lawsuit.
As well, some child support agencies may withhold sending out payments for up to two-four weeks. Why? Because that allows the agency to draw interest for those weeks, allowing them to make a profit on your children's money. They have no right to do so, but very few providers and/or recipiants are aware of it happening.
Another lawsuit, but you'd best be prepared to supply substantial evidence, and generally requires having the provider and recipient working together with a neutral lawyer.
I have no problem paying child support for my children. I have a problem with the system profiting and stealing their money.
So anyone who is paying child support, you best make certain that your children are receiving what you're sending.
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rohaan: I come from the Helen Reddy "I am woman, hear me roar" generation, so I may have some beliefs and observations from, and of, that era. Don't mistake my meaning: I am a 150% champion of equal rights for all. Here's the rub--women should be completely equal to men, in every aspect: fairness in employment, financial institutions (i.e. it is currently STILL more difficult for women to obtain loans than men) and so on. Assuming that the best case scenario is or becomes the status quo, then here is the way I see it theoretically: She decides to get a divorce, and they have two grade-school age kids. They are both working in good professions, and, (although it doesn't matter for the moment), they are both making about the same amount of money. He agrees to let her have the house, which is carrying a 50% mortgage of, say 700.00 monthly. The children's combined monthly cost for groceries, school supplies, and medical insurance is 400.00. Here is what is FAIR-- She already gets ownership of the house, which has been 50% paid off. He does not owe her for this; he has relinquished it to her already. So, for the sake of the kids' housing, which he would have to pay none-the-less, he pays half of half the remaining mortgage. ($175.00). Likewise, he pays half of the kids' combined monthly cost ($200.00). Other non-essentials he pays half, but there needs to be room for negotiation. (Not every child gets or needs ballet lessons, art classes, expensive trips, etc..) but, let's say the annual average agreed upon is %1000.00 (he pays about $45.00 more a month). His fair share monthly should be $420.00 for both children. This business of draining the dad so the mom can live high on the hog is BS.
This would have been so much easier to read if it was in paragraphs.
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rohaan: I come from the Helen Reddy "I am woman, hear me roar" generation, so I may have some beliefs and observations from, and of, that era. Don't mistake my meaning: I am a 150% champion of equal rights for all. Here's the rub--women should be completely equal to men, in every aspect: fairness in employment, financial institutions (i.e. it is currently STILL more difficult for women to obtain loans than men) and so on. Assuming that the best case scenario is or becomes the status quo, then here is the way I see it theoretically: She decides to get a divorce, and they have two grade-school age kids. They are both working in good professions, and, (although it doesn't matter for the moment), they are both making about the same amount of money. He agrees to let her have the house, which is carrying a 50% mortgage of, say 700.00 monthly. The children's combined monthly cost for groceries, school supplies, and medical insurance is 400.00. Here is what is FAIR-- She already gets ownership of the house, which has been 50% paid off. He does not owe her for this; he has relinquished it to her already. So, for the sake of the kids' housing, which he would have to pay none-the-less, he pays half of half the remaining mortgage. ($175.00). Likewise, he pays half of the kids' combined monthly cost ($200.00). Other non-essentials he pays half, but there needs to be room for negotiation. (Not every child gets or needs ballet lessons, art classes, expensive trips, etc..) but, let's say the annual average agreed upon is %1000.00 (he pays about $45.00 more a month). His fair share monthly should be $420.00 for both children. This business of draining the dad so the mom can live high on the hog is BS.
I'm not seeing the relevance of your reply to my post. I did state that "I have no problem paying child support for my children. I have a problem with the system profiting and stealing their money." My post was meant to give a heads-up on anyone (both men and women) who may have been order through the court system to pay child support, to make certain that their child(ren) recieve all of their money.
There are some crooked child support agencys out there who won't bat an eye on the opportunity to profit from child support, regardless of which gender that is paying it.
But your reply did remind me of a Jerry Reed song; "She Got The Goldmine (I Got The Shaft)"
They split it all down the middle, and gave her the better half.
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secretagent09: This would have been so much easier to read if it was in paragraphs.
It did not occur to me that it should be, or was needing to be, parsed, as the idea was a 'whole', and not interrupted by vague connecting pauses, as is customary for paragraphing. This was not a resume. You could be right, but for my purposes here it did not rise to the level of exacting prose. My question would more be, "Did you get the gist of it"?------ This poll is Archived ------
YouMeUs: I'm not seeing the relevance of your reply to my post.
I did state that "I have no problem paying child support for my children. I have a problem with the system profiting and stealing their money." My post was meant to give a heads-up on anyone (both men and women) who may have been order through the court system to pay child support, to make certain that their child(ren) recieve all of their money.
There are some crooked child support agencys out there who won't bat an eye on the opportunity to profit from child support, regardless of which gender that is paying it.
But your reply did remind me of a Jerry Reed song; "She Got The Goldmine (I Got The Shaft)"
They split it all down the middle, and gave her the better half.
So sorry--I can see where you or others might not. (I am an advocate for men's rights, and get on a hot point at times). The relevance is that I do believe it is all too frequently just a wealth redistribution, unfairly so. The tie-in was that many women demand their rights, but then freely or demandingly take more than the fair share. Hope this makes it more succinct for you. I did state that "I have no problem paying child support for my children. I have a problem with the system profiting and stealing their money." My post was meant to give a heads-up on anyone (both men and women) who may have been order through the court system to pay child support, to make certain that their child(ren) recieve all of their money.
There are some crooked child support agencys out there who won't bat an eye on the opportunity to profit from child support, regardless of which gender that is paying it.
But your reply did remind me of a Jerry Reed song; "She Got The Goldmine (I Got The Shaft)"
They split it all down the middle, and gave her the better half.
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rohaan: So sorry--I can see where you or others might not. (I am an advocate for men's rights, and get on a hot point at times). The relevance is that I do believe it is all too frequently just a wealth redistribution, unfairly so. The tie-in was that many women demand their rights, but then freely or demandingly take more than the fair share. Hope this makes it more succinct for you.
Oh, I clearly understood your first reply in full context of its intent. and I'm with you on the fairness bit 100%. But what threw me off was that my post was about watching/paying close attention to the system that distributes the money, while yours was about the fairness (or lack thereof) of said distribution between the genders (parents.)Your original reply to my post, as I see it, deserved its own post entirely, as it holds plenty of ground all on its own for this thread topic. And definitely would have been less confusing.
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YouMeUs: Oh, I clearly understood your first reply in full context of its intent. and I'm with you on the fairness bit 100%. But what threw me off was that my post was about watching/paying close attention to the system that distributes the money, while yours was about the fairness (or lack thereof) of said distribution between the genders (parents.)
Your original reply to my post, as I see it, deserved its own post entirely, as it holds plenty of ground all on its own for this thread topic. And definitely would have been less confusing.
I see that. My bad....(I'll try to stay more focused!)Your original reply to my post, as I see it, deserved its own post entirely, as it holds plenty of ground all on its own for this thread topic. And definitely would have been less confusing.
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DDawson59: so glad those days are behind me. lol
Those days of paying child support are behind me as well, but it was a financial and mental strain having to undergo the lawsuits against the system when they kept putting their greedy li'l paws in my payments. 
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ya it was. its the females who are baby factories and use the system for income. the kids are poorly dressed, nurtured and nourished and yet her 100 a month cell phone, beer in the fridge for the new guy(s), iPhone downloads, etc etc, just seems to be selfish. what explains a female who doesn't isn't involved in their kids lives and just send them out the door, while she entertains for the nose candy 'friends' ? with so many teen pregnancies and exteen mums raising teens who now are also making babies. no morality. no standards. just irresponsible feminism 'and her right to open the pantry and push out whatever, and never really take a 'mums' job seriously.
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DDawson59: ya it was. its the females who are baby factories and use the system for income. the kids are poorly dressed, nurtured and nourished and yet her 100 a month cell phone, beer in the fridge for the new guy(s), iPhone downloads, etc etc, just seems to be selfish. what explains a female who doesn't isn't involved in their kids lives and just send them out the door, while she entertains for the nose candy 'friends' ? with so many teen pregnancies and exteen mums raising teens who now are also making babies. no morality. no standards. just irresponsible feminism 'and her right to open the pantry and push out whatever, and never really take a 'mums' job seriously.
So what about the father of the babies? Where is their responsibility? There is something like contraception and if one parent is unfit to look after the children, the other parent should step in and raise the kid, providing a stable home, values and morality.
I only see blaming the females there, I did pay attention in school and know that it takes 2 to produce children.
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This is like a post by Rimi...only in better English.
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hi DD
"Child support" is just that.
So many mothers do not state on the birth certificate the father.
In NZ its terrible.
They lose 30$ p week by not stating them.
What!
They don't care/don't know/scared
What does that do, no ownership for their
baby.
Another
Father: "Unknown" On the Birth Certificate
Another child searching.
Very Sad
"Child support" is just that.
So many mothers do not state on the birth certificate the father.
In NZ its terrible.
They lose 30$ p week by not stating them.
What!
They don't care/don't know/scared
What does that do, no ownership for their
baby.
Another
Father: "Unknown" On the Birth Certificate
Another child searching.
Very Sad
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I think it's a way to ensure that the ex inever gets to take his new mrs to a nice dinner or buy her anything expensive
Miao
Miao
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DDawson59: 'its my body and I can do what I want with it' and get paid for doing it.
This is why I use childsoftware services. Instead of getting a woman pregnant and paying through my nose, I run this program and it simulates childrearing. In week one, I don't get any sleep, because the compute whines and wails every two hours. At age twenty i have to pay tuition, at age 13 braces for the teeth, at 3 some gummy bears for playtoys, etc.
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What's "Child support"?? None of my children had it from their dad.. And we managed very well!.. Last one in university now 
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Nurse said unknown, I said no, name not given.
When a man wants to be a father his name will be given.
It took 4 years, but I think he was living in fear of back child support and interest on it
mounting for lack of care of his child.
I choose to be a poor or broke mother than a mother needing a bad father.
When a man wants to be a father his name will be given.
It took 4 years, but I think he was living in fear of back child support and interest on it
mounting for lack of care of his child.
I choose to be a poor or broke mother than a mother needing a bad father.
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DDawson59: 'its my body and I can do what I want with it' and get paid for doing it.
Normally, it's a distribution of responsability, measures enforcing parents to assume it's part of the burden of upbringing their joint ventures.
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