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Oct 26, 2015 6:00 PM CSTShould The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State, Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts

Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?(Vote Below)

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No, that is too much, she has apologized.
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Yes, it is unceptable to kick children or anyone.
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49%
Other: please explain
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László
"The Hungarian camera operator who was filmed kicking two refugee children and tripping up a man at the border hotspot of Röszke this week has apologised, saying “something snapped in me” and she cannot believe her actions.

László was fired by Hungarian nationalist television channel N1TV after video of the incident was posted on Twitter by Stephan Richter, a reporter for the German television channel RTL.

N1TV – which has links to the far-right Jobbik party – said her behaviour was “unacceptable” and her job had been terminated “with immediate effect”.

On Thursday, Hungarian prosecutors said a criminal case for breach of the peace had been opened against her. Sandor Toro, the deputy chief prosecutor of Csongrád county, said: “In the course of the investigation, the authorities will also examine if more serious crimes … can be established.”
Claire Phipps and Daniel Nolan
Frida 11 September 2015 10.43 BST

Were you the judge to rule this case which would your verdict be?

Thanks in advance!

bouquet
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Oct 26, 2015 6:19 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Assault is assault.

And her crime was caught on camera, and in front of witnesses.
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Oct 26, 2015 6:58 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
I would have her sit in an interview with the family and the person that she degraded by tripping them to the ground.

Have her listen to their plight of fleeing.

sad flower
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Oct 26, 2015 7:51 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
chatonlyman2
chatonlyman2chatonlyman2North Bay, Ontario Canada27 Threads 7 Polls 6,600 Posts
sophiasummer: I would have her sit in an interview with the family and the person that she degraded by tripping them to the ground.

Have her listen to their plight of fleeing.
group hug
Life/Politics/whatever is so complicated these days.buddies handshake
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Oct 26, 2015 8:04 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
chatonlyman2: Life/Politics/whatever is so complicated these days.


Spose so.
My cows still get called once and then off they trot, to the next yummy field.

cheers
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Oct 26, 2015 8:56 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
dutchfreckles
dutchfrecklesdutchfrecklesmaaseik, Limburg Belgium86 Posts
thats just one site off this story ,
the other side is ceeping in hiding for the outside world

here therefutys ataking and asulting woman workers who are kleening there housing

ataking truck drivers if they dont get a ride

attacking car drivers for there cars

they set people with familie out of there rental home ,just becores off that those crimilals need housing ,and bring more money in from state
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Oct 26, 2015 9:19 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
Ocee102
Ocee102Ocee102unkown, California USA10 Threads 1,399 Posts
I'd give her 30 to 90 days in jail, and 400 hours of community service.


And not video editing/filming using her "skills" white privilege crap, I mean humility training...food shelter cleaning, trash collecting, serving the poor in an orange jumpsuit community service.
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Oct 26, 2015 9:21 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
Ocee102
Ocee102Ocee102unkown, California USA10 Threads 1,399 Posts
dutchfreckles: thats just one site off this story ,
the other side is ceeping in hiding for the outside world

here therefutys ataking and asulting woman workers who are kleening there housing

ataking truck drivers if they dont get a ride

attacking car drivers for there cars

they set people with familie out of there rental home ,just becores off that those crimilals need housing ,and bring more money in from state



There is no other side to the story of tripping an man who's carrying a small child.
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Oct 26, 2015 9:25 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
Ocee102
Ocee102Ocee102unkown, California USA10 Threads 1,399 Posts
Ocee102: There is no other side to the story of tripping an man who's carrying a small child.


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Oct 26, 2015 9:32 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
Ocee102: There is no other side to the story of tripping an man who's carrying a small child.


Exactly, whether it be in your own street, that's not the Hero shot.
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Oct 26, 2015 9:34 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
Makes me wonder where the "law and order" crowd has disappeared to off of here. He was clearly running from police, and it could be said she was simply assisting them in detaining him.

The kicking part, well, a bit over zealous perhaps, but I have to wonder what she's been through or exposed to in the whole. I can't imagine it's easy being a white woman behind the lens during all that's going on, considering the people she's filming.

Pardon me for not jumping on the bandwagon to condemn her, but that isn't to say I approve either. There's always more to a story than what meets the eye.
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Oct 26, 2015 9:35 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
Ocee102: There is no other side to the story of tripping an man who's carrying a small child.


Would the story change if it was a cop that did the tripping? dunno
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Oct 26, 2015 9:42 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
kidatheart: Makes me wonder where the "law and order" crowd has disappeared to off of here. He was clearly running from police, and it could be said she was simply assisting them in detaining him.

The kicking part, well, a bit over zealous perhaps, but I have to wonder what she's been through or exposed to in the whole. I can't imagine it's easy being a white woman behind the lens during all that's going on, considering the people she's filming.

Pardon me for not jumping on the bandwagon to condemn her, but that isn't to say I approve either. There's always more to a story than what meets the eye.


If there was, why didn't she explain?

(White women?)
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Oct 26, 2015 9:53 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
sophiasummer: If there was, why didn't she explain?

(White women?)


I dunno, why didn't she? Maybe she hasn't been afforded the opportunity to do so, at least not in front of a lens.

Yes white, unless you see a different skin colour?
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Oct 26, 2015 10:08 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
kidatheart: I dunno, why didn't she? Maybe she hasn't been afforded the opportunity to do so, at least not in front of a lens.

Yes white, unless you see a different skin colour?


And there you have it. - the movement of misunderstanding refugees.
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Oct 26, 2015 10:24 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Ocee102: I'd give her 30 to 90 days in jail, and 400 hours of community service.And not video editing/filming using her "skills" white privilege crap, I mean humility training...food shelter cleaning, trash collecting, serving the poor in an orange jumpsuit community service.


Giving Jail to the reporter is too much, I do not think jails do good to people yet jails are a must for top-criminals.

What I would have given the Reporter is community services, how many hours not sure now yet I would have requested the Reporter to live just one day among the Refugees as a Refugee.
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Oct 26, 2015 10:26 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
sophiasummer: And there you have it. - the movement of misunderstanding refugees.


I have no idea what you mean, care to explain? confused
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Oct 26, 2015 10:29 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
kidatheart: I dunno, why didn't she? Maybe she hasn't been afforded the opportunity to do so, at least not in front of a lens.

Yes white, unless you see a different skin colour?


What I can see is that th TV company did not back her up eventhough that Tv station is anti-migrants, they fired her instead.

What has kicking someone to do with the people’s skin color?
Had she being black would she have gotten away?
Is that what you mean?
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Oct 26, 2015 10:48 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
GalwayGuy35
GalwayGuy35GalwayGuy35galway, Galway Ireland25 Threads 1,537 Posts
No she shouldn't have tripped him but should she be jailed for it?

Of course not.

When a persons country is being invaded on a daily basis by illegals who have no right to be there sometimes people lash out in the heat of the moment.
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Oct 26, 2015 10:53 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
lifeisadream: What I can see is that th TV company did not back her up eventhough that Tv station is anti-migrants, they fired her instead.

What has kicking someone to do with the people’s skin color?
Had she being black would she have gotten away?
Is that what you mean?


Perhaps she's a nutbar, and they were just looking for an excuse to get rid of her anyway. I have no idea, nothing has been said, at least not by her.

No, that's not what I meant.

I was saying that being a white woman, filming a tense situation among people from a different culture, religion, that don't appear to have respect for differing cultures, religions, and especially women, that she may have been exposed to more than has been said. Maybe she'd been through something that wasn't shown in any of the extremely short repeated clips, that could have caused her to lose her cool at the time when the cameras were turned on her.

I have to ask, were you there?
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Oct 26, 2015 10:55 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
Ocee102
Ocee102Ocee102unkown, California USA10 Threads 1,399 Posts
GalwayGuy35: No she shouldn't have tripped him but should she be jailed for it?

Of course not.

When a persons country is being invaded on a daily basis by illegals who have no right to be there sometimes people lash out in the heat of the moment.



...at children.
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Oct 26, 2015 11:02 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
kidatheart: Perhaps she's a nutbar, and they were just looking for an excuse to get rid of her anyway. I have no idea, nothing has been said, at least not by her.

No, that's not what I meant.

I was saying that being a white woman, filming a tense situation among people from a different culture, religion, that don't appear to have respect for differing cultures, religions, and especially women, that she may have been exposed to more than has been said. Maybe she'd been through something that wasn't shown in any of the extremely short repeated clips, that could have caused her to lose her cool at the time when the cameras were turned on her.


kidatheart: ...I have to ask, were you there?

So, I should not comment on situations were I am not present?
So, Do you ever comment on situations were you are not present???

hmmm

This reporter has being prosecuted and I do find the option of giving her jail as unfair yet I do believe she deserves a consequence for her doing.
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Oct 26, 2015 11:02 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
GalwayGuy35
GalwayGuy35GalwayGuy35galway, Galway Ireland25 Threads 1,537 Posts
Ocee102: ...at children.


Like I said it shouldn't have happened but I don't believe she should be thrown in jail for it.
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Oct 26, 2015 11:15 PM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
kidatheart: I have no idea what you mean, care to explain?


Hi Kidatheart

The women works in front of a lense, her job is very important to put out to the world, honesty and life as it happens.
She clearly as many do in their work enviroments get stumbled,(excuse the pun) and suffered for her decision.

It has taken away the stilled moment of shocking frantic running of millions to flee their power imposed countries.

She could have used that moment of fleeing to challenge the world.

No disrespect to you, I may have put it wrong.

Soph
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Oct 27, 2015 12:39 AM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
lifeisadream: So, I should not comment on situations were I am not present?
So, Do you ever comment on situations were you are not present???



This reporter is being prosecuted and I do find the option of giving her jail as unfair yet I do believe she deserves a consequence for her doing.


Maybe not.hmmm
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Oct 27, 2015 12:51 AM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
sophiasummer: Hi Kidatheart

The women works in front of a lense, her job is very important to put out to the world, honesty and life as it happens.
She clearly as many do in their work enviroments get stumbled,(excuse the pun) and suffered for her decision.

It has taken away the stilled moment of shocking frantic running of millions to flee their power imposed countries.

She could have used that moment of fleeing to challenge the world.

No disrespect to you, I may have put it wrong.

Soph


I also think it shows that those that are being let into host countries have little respect for the authorities, and as a result place themselves and those that they're accompanying into danger as a result.

Not saying what she did is "right", but I also won't condemn her from a short set of repetitive and narrated video clips. They obviously don't show the entire story, and I have yet to hear the rest, or her side.


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Oct 27, 2015 1:15 AM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
lifeisadream: László
"The Hungarian camera operator who was filmed kicking two refugee children and tripping up a man at the border hotspot of Röszke this week has apologised, saying “something snapped in me” and she cannot believe her actions.

László was fired by Hungarian nationalist television channel N1TV after video of the incident was posted on Twitter by Stephan Richter, a reporter for the German television channel RTL.

N1TV – which has links to the far-right Jobbik party – said her behaviour was “unacceptable” and her job had been terminated “with immediate effect”.

On Thursday, Hungarian prosecutors said a criminal case for breach of the peace had been opened against her. Sandor Toro, the deputy chief prosecutor of Csongrád county, said: “In the course of the investigation, the authorities will also examine if more serious crimes … can be established.”
Claire Phipps and Daniel Nolan
Frida 11 September 2015 10.43 BST

Were you the judge to rule this case which would your verdict be?

Thanks in advance!

Well in my humble opinion, her journalist license should be canceled for life ,
Jail??? Dont really know ...
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Oct 27, 2015 1:21 AM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
I was concentrating on the journalist's actions and the people she attacked.

I've just watched the video again and noticed she had her face covered from the eyes down with a bandanna.

I wonder what that was all about.
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Oct 27, 2015 1:26 AM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Oh, and to answer the thread question, I don't know if she should have a custodial sentence, but I do think this apparent set of assaults and child abuses should be subject to appropriate legal procedure.
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Oct 27, 2015 1:50 AM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
lifeisadream: So, I should not comment on situations were I am not present?

You creating a storm in a tea cup,with this thread.
lips lips lips
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Oct 27, 2015 3:42 AM CST Should The Hungarian Reporter Kicking Refugees Being Punished With Jail?
EQandIQ2online today!
EQandIQ2online today!EQandIQ2Budapest or Rarotonga CI, Central Hungary Hungary185 Posts

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