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Apr 28, 2016 5:30 PM CSTMore gun control in the USA
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio, USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts

More gun control in the USA(Vote Below)

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Should the president of the USA and other leaders and preachers and duck breeders surrender their arms and armed security guards if the rest of the USA citizens are required to reduce or give up their gun rights? dunno

Live by your beliefs.... Greg Gutfeld to Geraldo Rivera: "Screw you!" - The Five

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Apr 28, 2016 6:10 PM CST More gun control in the USA
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
What is wrong with gun control? Why do certain people equate regulations with removal? Common sense would say logical control is the sensible way forward, especially in a country with such a high level of death by guns!
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Apr 28, 2016 6:19 PM CST More gun control in the USA
pedalguy59
pedalguy59pedalguy59Burlington, Ontario Canada28 Threads 1 Polls 6,976 Posts
rizlared: What is wrong with gun control? Why do certain people equate regulations with removal? Common sense would say logical control is the sensible way forward, especially in a country with such a high level of death by guns!


You know you are preaching to the choir right? Evidently an
amendment in a constitution(that states militia), is the same
as words from God.
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Apr 28, 2016 6:38 PM CST More gun control in the USA
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
rizlared: What is wrong with gun control? Why do certain people equate regulations with removal? Common sense would say logical control is the sensible way forward, especially in a country with such a high level of death by guns!

I can't disagree with this. I also believe those making the laws should live within any controls they impose.

I find I put interesting that as 'More and more women are buying guns. As the number of female gun owners has risen (in the USA) so has the number of women expressing skepticism of gun control.'

In late 2015.... 'A recently released New York Times/CBS poll included headline-grabbing findings about America’s evolving attitudes on gun control. The poll found that the number of Americans supporting a ban on assault weapons is 19 points lower today than it was after the shooting of former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and others in 2011.'


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Apr 28, 2016 6:39 PM CST More gun control in the USA
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
Apr 28, 2016 6:51 PM CST More gun control in the USA
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
pedalguy59: You know you are preaching to the choir right? Evidently an
amendment in a constitution(that states militia), is the same
as words from God.


Is the 2nd amendment is less important than any other amendment in the USA's constitutional republic? I wonder if the order of amendments in our constitution relates to their importance?

Will Katy Perry be able and purchase the Catholic 'Immaculate Heart of Mary' convent in Los Feliz, Calif. it's arguable whether they protected p*dophile priests there. The nuns living there are ticked off.
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Apr 28, 2016 6:54 PM CST More gun control in the USA
KenTn
KenTnKenTnColumbia, Tennessee USA13 Threads 10 Polls 54 Posts
rizlared: What is wrong with gun control? Why do certain people equate regulations with removal? Common sense would say logical control is the sensible way forward, especially in a country with such a high level of death by guns!


My friends and I, in Tennessee, all have Gun Carry Permits. I never go anywhere without a gun. As the old saying goes... "When seconds count the police are just minutes away."

The problem with gun control and regulation is they never know when to stop regulating.
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Apr 28, 2016 7:23 PM CST More gun control in the USA
KenTn
KenTnKenTnColumbia, Tennessee USA13 Threads 10 Polls 54 Posts
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Apr 28, 2016 7:24 PM CST More gun control in the USA
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
KenTn: My friends and I, in Tennessee, all have Gun Carry Permits. I never go anywhere without a gun. As the old saying goes... "When seconds count the police are just minutes away."

The problem with gun control and regulation is they never know when to stop regulating.


Seems like most cities with more gun regulations have bigger gun violence after regulations go into effect.

I'm ok with regulation created by and controlled in the USA but I'm totally against the push by Hillary Clinton to have all hand guns registered by NATO.
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Apr 28, 2016 7:39 PM CST More gun control in the USA
galrads: Should the president of the USA and other leaders and preachers ck breeders surrender their arms and armed security guards if the rest of the USA citizens are required to reduce or give up their gun rights?

Live by your beliefs.... Greg Gutfeld to Geraldo Rivera: "Screw you!" - The Five


I don;t think anyone is asking for Americans to give up their personal firearms ownership rights. We have a right to bear arms that is protected, but there is nothing wrong with asking for reasonable controls and protections.
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Apr 28, 2016 7:43 PM CST More gun control in the USA
loulou77
loulou77loulou77Vancouver, British Columbia Canada1 Threads 1,555 Posts
rizlared: What is wrong with gun control? Why do certain people equate regulations with removal? Common sense would say logical control is the sensible way forward, especially in a country with such a high level of death by guns!


I have no idea why people are so stuck with the notion of gun control is such a problem with the US...too many innocents' lives being lost due to paranoia...instead...look at countries such as Britain or Canada...why do we have less violence per capita?...we can learn from each other...
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Apr 28, 2016 8:17 PM CST More gun control in the USA
LoveRanger52
LoveRanger52LoveRanger52Bolivar, Missouri USA8 Threads 5 Polls 91 Posts
Gun control laws were all passed during the 60s. other than keeping them out of the hands of mentally ill crazies and out of schools and federal buildings. there's not much more you can do

Criminals don't care what the laws are and it stops nothing its an illusion and allows a false sense of security

But it sure does drive the gun and ammo market wild. Too bad i don't have a warehouse full of 22, 223, and 9mm moping
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Apr 29, 2016 1:56 AM CST More gun control in the USA
KenTn
KenTnKenTnColumbia, Tennessee USA13 Threads 10 Polls 54 Posts
I think its sad when I see so many people in United States spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on their home, family, children's education, healthcare insurance, life insurance, healthcare products, various medical treatments, vitamins, country clubs, gyms, doctors, dentists, and yet... they won't spend one penny on a gun to protect their home and family.

If you have little or no experience with guns you might want to consider taking a gun safety class. Here are some home defense tips for first time gun buyers...

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Apr 29, 2016 2:07 AM CST More gun control in the USA
LoveRanger52
LoveRanger52LoveRanger52Bolivar, Missouri USA8 Threads 5 Polls 91 Posts
Trained attack dogs are more proficient for home protection. most if not all criminals will steer clear of them, and along with dogs, the use of surveillance/camera equipment. they really wont come near. Other than that, a semi auto 20 or 16 gauge shotgun, shooting nitro mag slugs, will take care of the rest wink
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Apr 29, 2016 2:43 AM CST More gun control in the USA
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
galrads: I can't disagree with this. I also believe those making the laws should live within any controls they impose.

I find I put interesting that as 'More and more women are buying guns. As the number of female gun owners has risen (in the USA) so has the number of women expressing skepticism of gun control.'

In late 2015.... 'A recently released New York Times/CBS poll included headline-grabbing findings about America’s evolving attitudes on gun control. The poll found that the number of Americans supporting a ban on assault weapons is 19 points lower today than it was after the shooting of former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and others in 2011.'http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/24/why-women-are-buying-more-guns.html


Headline-grabbing Poll results are misleading, considering the average person is fairly uniformed, demonstrated again and again this election cycle. And unless it's taken on a street corner, these days people are less likely to respond to 'polls' conducted by phone or regular mail because of scams.. smile

popcorn
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Apr 29, 2016 2:47 AM CST More gun control in the USA
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
bohemianjack: Headline-grabbing Poll results are misleading, considering the average person is fairly uninformed, demonstrated again and again this election cycle. And unless it's taken on a street corner, these days people are less likely to respond to 'polls' conducted by phone or regular mail because of scams..


popcorn
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Apr 29, 2016 2:58 AM CST More gun control in the USA
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
bohemianjack: Headline-grabbing Poll results are misleading, considering the average person is fairly uniformed, demonstrated again and again this election cycle. And unless it's taken on a street corner, these days people are less likely to respond to 'polls' conducted by phone or regular mail because of scams..


People have been known to lie toogrin
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Apr 29, 2016 3:09 AM CST More gun control in the USA
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
rizlared: People have been known to lie too


Yes they do, lie, lie, lie, tell them whatever they want to hear.. grin
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Apr 29, 2016 4:21 AM CST More gun control in the USA
loulou77: There is no reason to have an assault rifle...let the police do their job...other than hunting purposes...no one should own a weapon...

what "Assault-Rifle"?laugh
The 2nd wasn't conceived in case the Deer shoot back,but to keep uppity Governments in check!
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Apr 29, 2016 5:07 AM CST More gun control in the USA
Dragos1
Dragos1Dragos1Metro, Oregon USA54 Threads 1 Polls 1,982 Posts
Conrad73: what "Assault-Rifle"?
The 2nd wasn't conceived in case the Deer shoot back,but to keep uppity Governments in check!


Hi there Conrad thumbs up

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Apr 29, 2016 7:13 AM CST More gun control in the USA
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
Apr 29, 2016 5:14 PM CST More gun control in the USA
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Dragos1: Wow, you are swimming in the Kool-Aid it seems. The Strange thing is I am the guy that lives here and these ridiculous "images" I have not once seen ever in my life. And as far as glamourizing and all that I just do not see it. You must go looking for it. I do think that there is a desensitization that happens to a lot of young people or feeble minds that get caught up in obsessive gaming...maybe. But from your reaction and your locale I am more likely to believe you have been consumed by your own environment. Oh, and if you wish to speak out against my Constitution then I gladly leave you to your own mental issues. (you have some kind of obsession with small things) And "Yes", you live in a "Communist" Country. And that I have seen unlike these crazy photos you posted. I see and hear a lot about the "Chinese disregard for life". So now am I supposed to believe these stories or does the All-Knowing "Riz" have more answers about the world for everyone? Where do you come up with this NRA stuff? And who would watch it?? I mean besides you> And I guess you do. LOL...Be careful "Riz", the internet is full of all kinds of stupid stuff. And I do hope that the Chinese will be careful in how they develop their economy. Being a Human there is not so important these days. Very poor practices in the Manufacturing and Production Plants. And so it comes down to a Guy in a glorified "Greedy" Communistic Country telling me that my 2nd Amendment is Bad?? It is here to protect me from people just like you. That is pretty obvious. You may have a more free enterprise and a corporate presence there in China, but it is still a place I do not want to become. Oh, and lay off the " Three Pénis Wine" I think it could be going to your head.



A lot of people here today believe that when USA citizens lose their gun ownership right, not only will the USA federal government go tyrannical, but the rest of the world will follow in the same way.

I don't like how current regs are not enforced or implemented but I do understand their value. However, I don't understand why some people in other countries also can't see this stability which guns provide.
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Apr 29, 2016 5:35 PM CST More gun control in the USA
Dragos1
Dragos1Dragos1Metro, Oregon USA54 Threads 1 Polls 1,982 Posts
galrads: A lot of people here today believe that when USA citizens lose their gun ownership right, not only will the USA federal government go tyrannical, but the rest of the world will follow in the same way.

I don't like how current regs are not enforced or implemented but I do understand their value. However, I don't understand why some people in other countries also can't see this stability which guns provide.


Well, there are many elements that others do not take into account. For one they do not live here and even a visit to the USA is hardly grounds for knowing what it is to be a citizen of the USA. Without going into depth it is simply very convenient to condemn others and judge them from afar. It also tends to be a common practice to prejudice against others that do not act or agree with you. Even to the point in making a show to others in how "bad" or "wrong" they would claim we are.
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Apr 29, 2016 10:35 PM CST More gun control in the USA
true, I have lived here (USA) all my life and slightly less than half of that time in an urban/suburban environment and I have had no exposure to handguns. So they are not on "every street corner."

The origin of this right is rooted in freedom from tyranny. Our ancestors came here, mostly from Europe where tyrants ruled and our forefathers came here to escape them and gave citizens the right to bear arms to insure protection from tyranny, and a tyrannical government because we do not want that sort to gain roots and grow on our soil. And to make it easy to quickly form militia in defense from tyranny. At least that was the thinking at the time....

to me it still holds true. But to keep tyranny out we need an educated and active population.....
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Apr 29, 2016 11:00 PM CST More gun control in the USA
Gun control is a good idea but the truth is that for America, its too late already. There are just so many guns and they are very easy to get. If you brought in stricter gun controls today, it would take a generation before you seen any difference in the rate of gun violence.
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Apr 29, 2016 11:37 PM CST More gun control in the USA
Dragos1
Dragos1Dragos1Metro, Oregon USA54 Threads 1 Polls 1,982 Posts
felixis99: true, I have lived here (USA) all my life and slightly less than half of that time in an urban/suburban environment and I have had no exposure to handguns. So they are not on "every street corner."

The origin of this right is rooted in freedom from tyranny. Our ancestors came here, mostly from Europe where tyrants ruled and our forefathers came here to escape them and gave citizens the right to bear arms to insure protection from tyranny, and a tyrannical government because we do not want that sort to gain roots and grow on our soil. And to make it easy to quickly form militia in defense from tyranny. At least that was the thinking at the time....

to me it still holds true. But to keep tyranny out we need an educated and active population.....


I agree Felix. I think that this is only one issue and that there is a lack of not only education but that we have lost a very important element in the last few decades. I would not think of myself in saying something relating to a "generation", but I think it is unavoidable. I realize that these extreme cases have been the product of several different ages but I feel and see with my own eyes day to day that we are missing some very important qualities such as being responsible for out own actions for one. What may seem simple like stopping at a corner and looking both ways before you walk across the street (basic things we were taught when children) is no longer commonplace. Instead there is a cellphone in hand and the person would not even realize they had walked in front of a bus! I know this may make no sense to many....but that is part of the problem. It used to be very plain to see. We need to pull people back into that "family values" and a whole lot just don't know how. Unfortunately that tyranny that we left has also followed us over the years in new shapes and sizes. To disarm the USA is not a smart idea. And as I said over and over, we need to really take care of several things so we can be a proud country and look each other in the eye and not be afraid to speak to others and know that there are still people out here that are genuine when they open the door for you or pickup something that a stranger dropped and hand it to them without someone worrying that they are getting robbed. I want that back. I have seen so many smaller special interests groups get so damn political that they just break down the whole unity of the system after awhile. Well, I am glad that I am not completely alone and thanks for your post Felix. I could be wrong but I bet that we could probably sit down and have a beverage and maybe even speak and share views in a civil manner. And that seems to be a rarity more and more... and we are becoming colder as a nation of robots that cling to machines and celebrities idols. We are all still just people. LOL.
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Apr 29, 2016 11:39 PM CST More gun control in the USA
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
There will never be gun,home control.
Even with locked blocked.
Therefore, watch out who has the key.
Or who knows.

May be duck shooting.

buddies
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Apr 30, 2016 1:28 AM CST More gun control in the USA
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Dragos1: Well, there are many elements that others do not take into account. For one they do not live here and even a visit to the USA is hardly grounds for knowing what it is to be a citizen of the USA. Without going into depth it is simply very convenient to condemn others and judge them from afar. It also tends to be a common practice to prejudice against others that do not act or agree with you. Even to the point in making a show to others in how "bad" or "wrong" they would claim we are.


Yet in your last post you did exactly that regarding Chinarolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

For your information, I did live in the USA, in Austin, TX and in Indiana. I think I have a far more reasonable view of the world than many who have never left the town they were born in let alone travelled abroad!
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Apr 30, 2016 1:58 AM CST More gun control in the USA
cruiser68
cruiser68cruiser68Red Cliffs, Victoria Australia9 Threads 704 Posts
Track16: Gun control is a good idea but the truth is that for America, its too late already. There are just so many guns and they are very easy to get. If you brought in stricter gun controls today, it would take a generation before you seen any difference in the rate of gun violence.


Being an OZZY thru and thru, We had a government that passed laws and took all the guns off the people, or so they thought.... Now years down the track.... The police openly admit, there 4 times as many guns in Australia than ever before, you name it anything you like, all ILLEGAL... It was only the innocent that handed their guns in, NOT THE CRIMS....
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Apr 30, 2016 3:05 AM CST More gun control in the USA
DavidScps
DavidScpsDavidScpsCoarsegold, California USA5 Posts
KenTn: My friends and I, in Tennessee, all have Gun Carry Permits. I never go anywhere without a gun. As the old saying goes... "When seconds count the police are just minutes away."

The problem with gun control and regulation is they never know when to stop regulating.



Very true Ken, Responsible gun owners do more to deter crime just by there presence. Just take a look at all the states such as Texas and your own state of Tennessee, where now, open carry is legal without any state issued permit, that's the way I feel it should be but California infringes on it's citizens rights. If individuals are responsible with their weapons there's no reason they shouldn't be able to open carry. In these states and others around the U.S. where open carry has been allowed crime always goes way down as anyone considering posing a threat to others knows he/she is liable to be confronted by several other responsible armed gun owners! That's a big deterrent! Also as you say, if the need arises, having a gun on you can be very advantageous as a couple of seconds to react is much faster than attempting to call 911!
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Apr 30, 2016 3:35 AM CST More gun control in the USA
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
loulou77: I have no idea why people are so stuck with the notion of gun control is such a problem with the US...too many innocents' lives being lost due to paranoia...instead...look at countries such as Britain or Canada...why do we have less violence per capita?...we can learn from each other...


They give the impression that they are good in controlling other nations but they're too weak to implement rules that is judged as imperative in the global standard.. to their own safety in society/protection of innocent victims.
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