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May 23, 2016 10:22 PM CSTShould First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
Blain69
Blain69Blain69Mansfield, Ohio, USA54 Threads 50 Polls 60 Posts

Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds(Vote Below)

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Yes
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Don't guilt trip me!
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Wait until My country is third world to answer.
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Once was clean, safe cities, are now, not so much.
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May 23, 2016 10:37 PM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Blain69: Once was clean, safe cities, are now, not so much.


Yes, snow trails should be studying led and moved from possum run road to the highest bidder to Greece. laugh
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May 23, 2016 10:38 PM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Yes, snow trails should be sold and and moved from possum run road to the highest bidder in Greece. confused
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May 23, 2016 10:42 PM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
Greece to buy Snow trails or just trade for their warm weather
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May 23, 2016 10:58 PM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Blain69: Greece to buy Snow trails or just trade for their warm weather

trades should be allowed
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May 23, 2016 11:21 PM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
It seems the politicians want to turn it into a 3rd world country. If I want 'diversity' I'll go back living in Ireland or England, but I don't think it's compatible with the USA.
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May 25, 2016 4:55 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
Blain69: Once was clean, safe cities, are now, not so much.


Some of it is post-industrial decay. Many immigrants have been encouraged to settle and breed in areas which were which were already collapsing and this muddies the water. However, the term "chav" is used here to describe the white working class at his most degenerate yet the "chav" cannot rival the barbarity of the "nigga" which is the black working class at his most degenerate. In the whole whatever point a white person can stoop to a black person can stoop lower.
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May 25, 2016 6:28 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
If they give away (as they are trying to do now driven by imaginary guilt) then the whole world will be a nasty, violent, third world place.
Giving on a plate encourages laziness...and why on Earth someone who works hard for what he has should give it to someone who haven't lifted a finger.
So, no, bloody no way...
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May 25, 2016 6:33 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
We already have, there are 540,000 living in London alone enjoying the benefits of a first world country.
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May 25, 2016 6:35 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
tomcatwarne: We already have, there are 540,000 living in London alone enjoying the benefits of a first world country.


And that's just Indians.
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May 25, 2016 7:54 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
funke3
funke3funke3London, Greater London, England UK191 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: Some of it is post-industrial decay. Many immigrants have been encouraged to settle and breed in areas which were which were already collapsing and this muddies the water. However, the term "chav" is used here to describe the white working class at his most degenerate yet the "chav" cannot rival the barbarity of the "nigga" which is the black working class at his most degenerate. In the whole whatever point a white person can stoop to a black person can stoop lower.

Yes obviously,u know how to stoop so low,u r the one living in the slum not me.
U need to see a head shrink and don't stop taking your medication.
U r so inferior,u like to portray your inferiority complex into the most noble whites.
Pls crawl back into your whole ,nobody need your confused opinion.And remember to wash yourself and scrub your false teeth when u wake up in the morning.
I do genuinely feel sorry for u.Pls accept my sympathy.
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May 25, 2016 7:56 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
The period of colonial rule, spanning some 200 years, is routinely depicted as the systematic plundering of a nation. The popular view is that the Empire stripped India of its natural resources and gave little in return, leaving the place all but destitute when independence was finally granted in 1947.

Now, however, a new book written by an Anglo-Indian challenges this notion. It asserts that in fact Britain laid the foundations for modern-day India and the prosperity that it enjoys today.

The girders for every bridge, the track for every mile of railway and the vast array of machinery required for India's infrastructure were all carried there by the same ships that helped exploit a land thousands of miles away. The engineers who laid the cornerstones for India's development from Third World nation to burgeoning industrial superpower were British.

"The indisputable fact is that India as a nation as it stands today was originally put together and created by a small, distant island country," says Dr Kartar Lalvani, founder of the vitamins company Vitabiotics and a former Ernst and Young Entrepreneur of the Year, in the book he has spent the past eight years writing, The Making Of India: A Story Of British Enterprise. It comes out later this year.

He adds: "The 'sins' of the Empire have been widely and frequently written about while the other positive side of the imperial coin, of which Britain can be proud and which laid the foundations for modern-day India, has always been overlooked. This is the first book of its kind to recognise Britain's vast contribution to India's social, civil and physical infrastructure provided during two centuries of colonial rule."
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May 25, 2016 7:58 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
funke3
funke3funke3London, Greater London, England UK191 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: Some of it is post-industrial decay. Many immigrants have been encouraged to settle and breed in areas which were which were already collapsing and this muddies the water. However, the term "chav" is used here to describe the white working class at his most degenerate yet the "chav" cannot rival the barbarity of the "nigga" which is the black working class at his most degenerate. In the whole whatever point a white person can stoop to a black person can stoop lower.

Is that the area u was born and bred.U don't exactly look like an English person.U can fool some other people sometimes but u can't fool many people all the time.
U can't fool me!
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May 25, 2016 7:58 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
funke3
funke3funke3London, Greater London, England UK191 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: Some of it is post-industrial decay. Many immigrants have been encouraged to settle and breed in areas which were which were already collapsing and this muddies the water. However, the term "chav" is used here to describe the white working class at his most degenerate yet the "chav" cannot rival the barbarity of the "nigga" which is the black working class at his most degenerate. In the whole whatever point a white person can stoop to a black person can stoop lower.

Is that the area u was born and bred.U don't exactly look like an English person.U can fool some other people sometimes but u can't fool many people all the time.
U can't fool me!
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May 25, 2016 7:58 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
tomcatwarne: The period of colonial rule, spanning some 200 years, is routinely depicted as the systematic plundering of a nation. The popular view is that the Empire stripped India of its natural resources and gave little in return, leaving the place all but destitute when independence was finally granted in 1947.

Now, however, a new book written by an Anglo-Indian challenges this notion. It asserts that in fact Britain laid the foundations for modern-day India and the prosperity that it enjoys today.

The girders for every bridge, the track for every mile of railway and the vast array of machinery required for India's infrastructure were all carried there by the same ships that helped exploit a land thousands of miles away. The engineers who laid the cornerstones for India's development from Third World nation to burgeoning industrial superpower were British.

"The indisputable fact is that India as a nation as it stands today was originally put together and created by a small, distant island country," says Dr Kartar Lalvani, founder of the vitamins company Vitabiotics and a former Ernst and Young Entrepreneur of the Year, in the book he has spent the past eight years writing, The Making Of India: A Story Of British Enterprise. It comes out later this year.

He adds: "The 'sins' of the Empire have been widely and frequently written about while the other positive side of the imperial coin, of which Britain can be proud and which laid the foundations for modern-day India, has always been overlooked. This is the first book of its kind to recognise Britain's vast contribution to India's social, civil and physical infrastructure provided during two centuries of colonial rule."


Is that an original statement from you, or a copy and paste? hmmm
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May 25, 2016 8:02 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
mollybaby: Is that an original statement from you, or a copy and paste?


It's taken from the book.
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May 25, 2016 8:06 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Ref Dr Lalvani, who came to the UK in 1956 to study, believes that both nations benefited from the trade links that were firmly established in the 17th century and continued under the often maligned East India Company, which founded its first trading post in Surat, on the west coast of India, in 1613. Within 40 years it had another 22 bases, supplying the motherland with everything from salt to opium. At the time India, a country of disparate states, had no uniform government and it seemed that France might gain control as it also sought to expand its empire overseas. That prospect was ended by the victory of Robert Clive over French forces at Plassey, in Bengal, in 1757.

It paved the way for the British Raj to rule India for almost two centuries, for the East India Company to thrive and for fortunes to be made by individuals.

There were cases of corruption and greed and cruel reprisals against opponents but Dr Lalviani says: "It is important to note that there is a substantial list on the credit side.

"They include railways, roads, canals, mines, sewers, plantations and the establishment of English law and language.

"Great cities including Bombay, Calcutta and Madras were built and some of the finest universities and museums in India were founded. The first definitive atlas of India was drawn and there were great social reforms, such as the eradication of thugee (violent highway robbery), the banning of the custom of suttee (the burning of widows on the husband's funeral pyre) and female infanticide.

"Perhaps most innovative of all was the bringing together of several different states into one unified India."

Gradually the power of the East India Company was eroded to be replaced by more direct British government of India, leading to more investment. The Indian Army was formed and its top officers trained in new military academies, modelled on Sandhurst.

At the heart of India's development was the expansion of the rail network, originally built to secure the colonial hold, which still prospers.

Within 25 years, 10,000 miles of track were laid joining distant parts of the nation. By independence, 136,000 bridges had been constructed.

Today Indian Railways is the world's largest employer, with a staggering 1.6 million workers on the payroll. By the mid-19th century India had a postal system, the spread of the English language allowed communication between people from different backgrounds, and the arts were thriving.

Wildlife and ancient buildings, such as the Taj Mahal, were protected.
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May 25, 2016 8:07 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
funke3
funke3funke3London, Greater London, England UK191 Posts
tomcatwarne: We already have, there are 540,000 living in London alone enjoying the benefits of a first world country.

Actually the economy of London and development of London is the best in Europe and one of the best in the world.!
Reality is where no third world people live is usually the poorest.
And London have a beautiful Queen which none of them has got.And they all want to come here from all their European civilised countries to grab the sterling of the most wonderful Queen.
London economy is still blooming while most others is collapsing,and it's the town which populates most of the third world immigrants.
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May 25, 2016 8:10 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
funke3: Actually the economy of London and development of London is the best in Europe and one of the best in the world.!
Reality is where no third world people live is usually the poorest.
And London have a beautiful Queen which none of them has got.And they all want to come here from all their European civilised countries to grab the sterling of the most wonderful Queen.
London economy is still blooming while most others is collapsing,and it's the town which populates most of the third world immigrants.


I don't diepute what you saybouquet
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May 25, 2016 8:28 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
funke3
funke3funke3London, Greater London, England UK191 Posts
KremaP: If they give away (as they are trying to do now driven by imaginary guilt) then the whole world will be a nasty, violent, third world place.
Giving on a plate encourages laziness...and why on Earth someone who works hard for what he has should give it to someone who haven't lifted a finger.
So, no, bloody no way...

U r absolutely right.Why give to lazy people whatever their race,colour or creed?
Encourage people to work to earn.Encourage individual govts to create jobs for its own people.
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May 25, 2016 9:12 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
itsimpossible
itsimpossibleitsimpossibleBrisbane, Queensland Australia4 Threads 777 Posts
tomcatwarne: It's taken from the book.
did you get permission to use it? it's copyright
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May 25, 2016 9:48 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: With advances in neuroscience and surveillance it's going to become increasingly difficult to disguise the general differences in character, temperament and ability between the races.

Everyone, liberals included, need to leave late 20th century politically correct ideals behind and embrace 21st century true colours philosophy which does not so easily fit into any ideological niche. If I'm saying some races/cultures/individuals are less wrong and more able than others this doesn't mean kill the inferior. It doesn't even mean cut them off. It's simply the truth and there are many ways a society can respond to the truth.

The true test of how tolerant we actually are will come when we stop pretending that we're all equal. Even Marx had from each according to their ability which is at least a tacit acceptance of natural inequality. It's strange how we now live in a capitalist society which is in some respects redder than Marx.


Political correctness is an invention of white middle class people with their lawns mowed to a length beneath 5mm. It's a sham. It rests on people never having much close experience with other races and cultures and that's why the establishment can carry on saying things which streetwise people know to be a lie.

Black women are most into thug-loving, muslim men(and Indians)are the most creepy etc... These are things young people know already. Okay middle class young people, being ever so much sophisticated, will make the same point in an ironic and plausibly deniable way but it's still the same point being made.
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May 25, 2016 10:04 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
TheRedSquirrel87: With advances in neuroscience and surveillance it's going to become increasingly difficult to disguise the general differences in character, temperament and ability between the races.

Everyone, liberals included, need to leave late 20th century politically correct ideals behind and embrace 21st century true colours philosophy which does not so easily fit into any ideological niche. If I'm saying some races/cultures/individuals are less wrong and more able than others this doesn't mean kill the inferior. It doesn't even mean cut them off. It's simply the truth and there are many ways a society can respond to the truth.

The true test of how tolerant we actually are will come when we stop pretending that we're all equal. Even Marx had from each according to their ability which is at least a tacit acceptance of natural inequality. It's strange how we now live in a capitalist society which is in some respects redder than Marx.


For example the police. When every single officer is filmed throughout every moment of his beat it will answer whether the police discriminate against black people or whether black people are more likely to be a criminal and resist arrest.

So long as society is constantly monitored then justice will be done and political correctness will hang soon after.
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May 25, 2016 10:23 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
tomcatwarne: And that's just Indians.
wha...?????? you mean red indians.....I saw some tents up....didnt know they were wigwams.....jesus christ....do they still scalp people...uh oh uh oh uh oh your be alright....as you as bald as a egg......giggle giggle rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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May 25, 2016 10:03 PM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
KenTn
KenTnKenTnColumbia, Tennessee USA13 Threads 10 Polls 54 Posts
Anytime you resettle large numbers of people you get large numbers in chaos. Expect it...

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May 25, 2016 10:39 PM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
All First Nation's shared the land with all the invaded.
The People of all Nations, need to be equal.




jmho
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May 26, 2016 1:28 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: All First Nation's shared the land with all the invaded.
The People of all Nations, need to be equal.

jmho





No, people are not equal,
you can not equalise a bright, intelligent person who works hard towards prosperity and a lazy bum who expects everything on a plate just because they are both human...
Forced equality will only bring anarchy...
People are different in any way...
If you are an employer would you pay equally your manager and your cleaner?!
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May 26, 2016 2:13 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
KremaP: No, people are not equal,
you can not equalise a bright, intelligent person who works hard towards prosperity and a lazy bum who expects everything on a plate just because they are both human...
Forced equality will only bring anarchy...
People are different in any way...
If you are an employer would you pay equally your manager and your cleaner?!
..if you worked for me...you would get paid very well....for cooking/ironing.....(.cleaning floors....scrubber).....yes.professor laugh laugh grin morning.......
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May 26, 2016 3:36 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
We are subjected to extreme experiments by the global oligarchs and here you are,asking Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds...
laugh
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May 26, 2016 6:01 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
thelad2007
thelad2007thelad2007Waterford, Ireland645 Posts
Dedovix: We are subjected to extreme experiments by the global oligarchs and here you are,asking Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds...


id have to agree to some degree with this statement. i do think we are being controlled by oligarchs and debt is their main tool of choice. most if not all third world debt should be forgiven to allow these countries to grow and prosper. the individuals of the first world should not have to give up their worldly goods in order for this to happen. i realise this isnt exactly straightforward, but the individuals on this planet are not really the problem but the debt based monetary system we have created is the main problem.
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May 26, 2016 6:15 AM CST Should First World Nations give away their comfort of living to Third Worlds
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
thelad2007: id have to agree to some degree with this statement. i do think we are being controlled by oligarchs and debt is their main tool of choice. most if not all third world debt should be forgiven to allow these countries to grow and prosper. the individuals of the first world should not have to give up their worldly goods in order for this to happen. i realise this isnt exactly straightforward, but the individuals on this planet are not really the problem but the debt based monetary system we have created is the main problem.


Then who should pay for a fair trade with the poor of the earth if not the western consumer? I mean genuine fair trade, not the brand. We're the ones creaming off their misery in the form of cheap foreign goods just as the super-rich cream off huge profit from the transaction of said goods.

But I agree. I'd much rather we cancelled debt of the poor, and subsequently paid higher prices for the goods we consume(every man of us in the west), rather than keeping the sweatshop cheap goods and dumping a load of desperate brown people in the heart of the white working class because of the white middle class guilty conscience over abusing the world.

It's unfair. Old white people get most of the cheap goods, young people pay most of the welfare for the foreign friends, and this guilt-ridden vanity project of allowing millions of desperados into the country completely ignores the millions upon of millions of desperados crawling in misery out of sight and out of mind. Old white get easy living, young white people pay more tax, and dark people are barely helped. Thank you diversity.
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