DOES DONALD TRUMP IS DRAINING THE SWAMP? ( Archived) (9)

Apr 29, 2017 4:59 PM CSTDOES DONALD TRUMP IS DRAINING THE SWAMP?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts

DOES DONALD TRUMP IS DRAINING THE SWAMP?(Vote Below)

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What he meant with that phrase?
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Drain the swamp
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Swampland near Benton Ridge, Ohio; the channel pictured is used to "drain the swamp."
Drain the swamp is a term which has been used primarily by American politicians. The term alludes to the historical draining of swamps to keep mosquito populations low to combat malaria. The term has since been used as a metaphor by:

Winfield R. Gaylord to describe the socialist desire to "drain" the "capitalist swamp".

Victor L. Berger, who in his book Broadsides referred to changing the capitalist system as "drain the swamp"

Ronald Reagan, who called for "drain the swamp" of bureaucracy in the federal government in 1983.

Nancy Pelosi while announcing her 100-Hour Plan in response to more than a decade of Republican rule.

Donald Trump to describe his plan to fix problems in the federal government. Subsequent protests against the role of Goldman Sachs in the Trump administration also used the metaphor.

Traditional Unionist Voice on the front cover of their manifesto for the 2017 Northern Ireland Assembly election
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Apr 30, 2017 10:58 AM CST DOES DONALD TRUMP IS DRAINING THE SWAMP?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
What’s With All Trump’s Talk About “Draining the Swamp”?

In a press release from Oct. 17, Trump pledged to “drain the swamp in Washington, D.C.” He then tweeted: “I will Make Our Government Honest Again — believe me. But first, I’m going to have to #DrainTheSwamp.” Since then, Trump and his supporters have punctuated tweet after tweet with the hashtag. What are they talking about?

Politicians have long colored calls to clean up government corruption with drain the swamp. In 2006, newly elected Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi pledged to “drain the swamp” in Congress after 10 years of Republican control. After 9/11, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld committed to “drain the swamp” of terrorism; the phrase was a favorite of Bush administration officials during the ensuing wars they launched in the Middle East. Earlier, in 1983, President Reagan described his chief mission as “draining the swamp” of big government.

At its bottom, drain the swamp is a metaphor: If you drain the swamp, you eliminate the mosquitoes (or snakes and alligators, in other iterations) that breed disease. But, ironically, the original disease the expression referred to was the very thing Trump has built his campaign on: big business. Etymologist Barry Popik has traced drain the swamp back to the socialist movement of the early 20th century. In a 1903 letter to the Daily Northwestern, Winfield R. Gaylord, state organizer of the Social Democratic Party, precursor to Eugene Debs’ Socialist Party of America, wrote: “Socialists are not satisfied with killing a few of the mosquitoes which come from the capittalist swamp; they want to drain the swamp.” Another Wisconsin socialist, Victor Berger, provides a textbook example in 1912: “It cannot be avoided any more than malaria in a swampy country. And the speculators are the mosquitos. We should have to drain the swamp—change the capitalist system—if we want to get rid of those mosquitos.” The following year, labor and community organizer Mary “Mother Jones” Harris (and magazine namesake) deployed the phrase: “The capitalist and striker—both men are all right—only they are sick; they need a remedy; they have been mosquito bitten. Let’s kill the virulent mosquito and then find and drain the swamp in which he breeds.” The mosquitoes, for Harris, were the deeper, industrial forces that pit labor against bosses.

Drain the swamp isn’t just a vivid conceit with a revolutionary flair: It also alludes to the stubborn myth that Washington, D.C., was built on a swamp, which, fatefully, had to be drained to accommodate the new seat of American democracy and power. As historians and scientists have noted, only a tiny fraction of the District, for all its humidity, was ever swampy enough to require any such drainage; the ecosystem is actually closer to a tidal marsh. (Manage the tidal marsh, while perhaps better characterizing the day-to-day slog of government work, doesn’t have the same ring to it.) Myth aside, drain the swamp has proved sticky over the course of the 20th century, used by Democrats and Republicans, socialists and capitalists, to condemn whatever particular malady they believe is plaguing our government.

But leave it to Trump to drag this mucky metaphor even further into the mud. For Trump’s swamp isn’t just home to political cronies and crooks, whom the expression typically targets: The media, polling, leaders of his own political party, the abstract Establishment, and just about anything that challenges his view of the world, and himself, gets sucked into his vortex.

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Apr 30, 2017 6:40 PM CST DOES DONALD TRUMP IS DRAINING THE SWAMP?
Grouchyoldfart
GrouchyoldfartGrouchyoldfartSan Juan, Puerto Rico156 Posts
He's draining the swamp ( government ) of all the money he and his multi millionaire / billionaire pals can haul away and will stick you all with the bill . The really sad/bad part is most are too dumb to see what he is doing ! . . confused
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May 1, 2017 1:44 AM CST DOES DONALD TRUMP IS DRAINING THE SWAMP?
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
Grouchyoldfart: He's draining the swamp ( government ) of all the money he and his multi millionaire / billionaire pals can haul away and will stick you all with the bill . The really sad/bad part is most are too dumb to see what he is doing ! . .
What's happening in Porto Rico ? Anyone draining the swamp?
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May 2, 2017 6:12 AM CST DOES DONALD TRUMP IS DRAINING THE SWAMP?
Ttripod
TtripodTtripodAntalya, Mediterranean Turkey43 Posts
He is pretty much like drowning in the swamp.rolling on the floor laughing
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May 2, 2017 9:45 AM CST DOES DONALD TRUMP IS DRAINING THE SWAMP?
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
Ttripod: He is pretty much like drowning in the swamp.
...in Porto Ricko or Turkey ? rolling on the floor laughing
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May 2, 2017 10:21 AM CST DOES DONALD TRUMP IS DRAINING THE SWAMP?
Ttripod: He is pretty much like drowning in the swamp.

More like polluting the swamp. He is now the CEO, owner,slum lord, President, boss, top dog whatever you want to call it of the swamp.
Enjoy your stay Donaldwine
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May 2, 2017 10:48 AM CST DOES DONALD TRUMP IS DRAINING THE SWAMP?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
ooby_dooby: More like polluting the swamp. He is now the CEO, owner,slum lord, President, boss, top dog whatever you want to call it of the swamp.
Enjoy your stay Donald


Anything else Ooby?



He also cheats at golf laugh


I wonder what has happened to the thread about his accomplishments?
Did it hit the 50-51 pages giggle




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Jul 11, 2017 2:49 PM CST DOES DONALD TRUMP IS DRAINING THE SWAMP?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
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I'm a bit disappointed with Trump. He used to look like an angry bull and now he just do not seem diplomatic.
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Jul 11, 2017 2:55 PM CST DOES DONALD TRUMP IS DRAINING THE SWAMP?
Grouchyoldfart: He's draining the swamp ( government ) of all the money he and his multi millionaire / billionaire pals can haul away and will stick you all with the bill . The really sad/bad part is most are too dumb to see what he is doing ! . .

seems like you Guys in PR are doing an excellent Job of it!rolling on the floor laughing
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