Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN? ( Archived) (67)

May 4, 2017 2:02 PM CSTDo you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts

Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?(Vote Below)

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Must be mandatory.
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May 5, 2017 4:29 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
GUZMAN1: http://www.stopmandatoryvaccination.com/personal-choice/




M y children are adults.

It's my grandchildren's health that concerns me.

If vaccines work on your children, my grandchildren shouldn't need them.

You can buy the mercury they add to vaccines on eBay.

The directions warn you against using it on humans.
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May 5, 2017 4:51 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
M y children are adults.

It's my grandchildren's health that concerns me.

If vaccines work on your children, my grandchildren shouldn't need them.

You can buy the mercury they add to vaccines on eBay.

The directions warn you against using it on humans.[/quot

I agree totally, anyway they say you do not have to vacinate everyone to bring a immunity to a community, so let those that want it get it and leave us alone to do not adhere to mass innoculations or being made to do it.very mad
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May 5, 2017 4:53 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
mykingdomforanam: M y children are adults.

It's my grandchildren's health that concerns me.

If vaccines work on your children, my grandchildren shouldn't need them.

You can buy the mercury they add to vaccines on eBay.

The directions warn you against using it on humans.



Then, are you against mandatory vaccination?
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May 5, 2017 10:32 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
its mandatory in my country ...

no one knows why , i mean, we do know why but the officials have reasonable explanation
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May 5, 2017 10:42 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
studecar
studecarstudecarsayre, Oklahoma USA7 Threads 102 Posts
://www.stopmandatoryvaccination.com/personal-choice/

I am an older person but I remember many years ago each fall at the start of the school year all the children who had not been vaccinated were lined up to receive shots, no questions addressed , it was done without having to get permission by the parents. The shots were beneficial and proved to be, it should be that way now, remember Polio ??? studecar professor
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May 5, 2017 10:48 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
I believe some vaccines should be mandatory, like MMR (measles, mumps and Rubella), Variccela(chickenpox), Rotavirus and TB ( tuberculosis) for example. But the rest should be a personal choice.
Some countries do not consider the TB vaccine important (England) but the migrant influx from Asia made it a serious concern because it's caused by bacteria and it's easily spread.
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May 5, 2017 10:59 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
KremaP: I believe some vaccines should be mandatory, like MMR (measles, mumps and Rubella), Variccela(chickenpox), Rotavirus and TB ( tuberculosis) for example. But the rest should be a personal choice.
Some countries do not consider the TB vaccine important (England) but the migrant influx from Asia made it a serious concern because it's caused by bacteria and it's easily spread.


Sorry I do not agree with this. It means babes are forced with something before they even have a choice in this world, next we will be told to have the babes with a chip, (like dogs do) from birth so they can be monitered all their lives.
I know that is going too far but my point being once you take personnel choice away ----this being parents for their own children then a slippery slope goes downward.

The MMR jab taken together has given some kids Autism did you know that, and some parents felt so strongly as our government would not budge to separate these jabs, parents paid to have them seperate. They did have a choice though.

A lot is said about medical opinions just to find out a decade later they were wrong with their assumptions so leave parents to choose it is a human right.teddybear
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May 5, 2017 11:18 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
Redex: Sorry I do not agree with this. It means babes are forced with something before they even have a choice in this world, next we will be told to have the babes with a chip, (like dogs do) from birth so they can be monitered all their lives.
I know that is going too far but my point being once you take personnel choice away ----this being parents for their own children then a slippery slope goes downward.

The MMR jab taken together has given some kids Autism did you know that, and some parents felt so strongly as our government would not budge to separate these jabs, parents paid to have them seperate. They did have a choice though.

A lot is said about medical opinions just to find out a decade later they were wrong with their assumptions so leave parents to choose it is a human right.






I agree with you that MMR is the most rumored vaccine but there is no proof yet scientifically evident for that... The vaccines for diseases that can cause an epidemic should be mandatory.
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May 5, 2017 1:39 PM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
GUZMAN1: Then, are you against mandatory vaccination?




If they work on you... there's no reason for them to be mandatory for me...
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May 5, 2017 2:16 PM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
mykingdomforanam: If they work on you... there's no reason for them to be mandatory for me...



True very true but their will always some who want to control and tie you downthumbs up
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May 5, 2017 2:21 PM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
mykingdomforanam: If they work on you... there's no reason for them to be mandatory for me...


I think that the problem is deciding what is good for others who can't decide (children).


Perhaps the doctor's decision could be needed instead of parents.
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May 5, 2017 2:44 PM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
GUZMAN1: I think that the problem is deciding what is good for others who can't decide (children).


Perhaps the doctor's decision could be needed instead of parents.






Perhaps a doctor who's not indebted to big Pharmaceutical companies: and pushing drugs in exchange for bribes.
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May 5, 2017 2:47 PM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
mykingdomforanam: Perhaps a doctor who's not indebted to big Pharmaceutical companies: and pushing drugs in exchange for bribes.


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May 5, 2017 2:48 PM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
Redex: True very true but their will always some who want to control and tie you down




Yep, I think I can find a doctor who'll recommend psychotic drugs for chemical lobotomies on control freaks.
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May 5, 2017 6:10 PM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Oh yeah, when I tried to quizz doctors about the risks of MMR they were very evasive and made it very difficult for me to find information.

That gave me a clue as to how much they cared about my child's welfare versus their big fat bonus from the pharmaceutical companies.

I expected an open and honest conversation so I could make an informed choice.
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May 5, 2017 11:22 PM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
This is from the National Autistic society, they should be a credible source.

"Our position - MMR vaccine
Autism can have profound effects on a person and families understandably have questions about its causes, including whether there is a link to vaccines, such as MMR.

Our position:

The National Autistic Society is clear that there is no link between autism and the MMR vaccine.

We believe that no further attention or research funding should be unnecessarily directed towards examining a link that has already been comprehensively discredited. Instead, we should be focusing our efforts on improving the lives of the 700,000 autistic people in the UK, and their families.

The evidence:

Much research has been devoted to this issue and the results have repeatedly shown there is no link. This includes a comprehensive review of all available studies on links between autism and vaccines in 2014, using data from more than 1.25 million children.

In addition, the original research linking the MMR vaccine and autism has been comprehensively discredited and the person who wrote it has been struck off the medical register. For a fuller account, please visit the BBC's website.

We still don't fully understand the exact causes of autism but research to date has shown it involves many complex and interacting factors, including genetics, the environment and the development of the brain. "

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May 6, 2017 2:14 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
mykingdomforanam: Yep, I think I can find a doctor who'll recommend psychotic drugs for chemical lobotomies on control freaks.


Yep and some people will swollow anything thumbs up
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May 6, 2017 2:26 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Oh yeah, when I tried to quizz doctors about the risks of MMR they were very evasive and made it very difficult for me to find information.

That gave me a clue as to how much they cared about my child's welfare versus their big fat bonus from the pharmaceutical companies.

I expected an open and honest conversation so I could make an informed choice.


Yep I agree with you and the doc who was doing research was struck off and discredited. I think it was the combination of drugs that left with bad results but our government would not seperate them so some parents were so concerned they bought the seperat vac private at £30 a shot.

The combination of shots were also blamed for some of our soldiers problems when the came home. All they needed in one jab for Iraq, they blamed results on chemicals inhaled i Iraq and we all no were those chemicals were.

the bigger problem as I see it a lot of todays people will beleive anything the read in so called research doh and blame us who doubt and need to look into things further we are ignorant.

sorry that is my igno-----rant over.grin
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May 6, 2017 2:34 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,954 Posts
KremaP: I agree with you that MMR is the most rumored vaccine but there is no proof yet scientifically evident for that... The vaccines for diseases that can cause an epidemic should be mandatory.



This.
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May 6, 2017 2:49 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
GUZMAN1: http://www.stopmandatoryvaccination.com/personal-choice/


When my son was born in 1979, I was 19.I followed through the rules.
As plunket advised, all shots.

Yet to his day I will never have the flu injection.
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May 6, 2017 2:53 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
sophiasummer: When my son was born in 1979, I was 19.I followed through the rules.
As plunket advised, all shots.

Yet to his day I will never have the flu injection.





The flu jabs are useless as the stamp changes very fast...
I'll never get one myself or do it to my boy...
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May 6, 2017 3:47 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
Jenny5IA
Jenny5IAJenny5IACabopino, Andalusia Spain8 Threads 247 Posts
Yes, and I kick them too
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May 6, 2017 4:31 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
KremaP: 100% agree with you.
We recently had a breakout of Measles in a Gypsy area, because they don't care to vaccinate their kids.
No need to mention that many cases have a fatal end.
It's not the mandatory vaccination that violates the human's rights but the risk you put on people's lives with your careless and ignorant attitude.

My sister in law lived in a town where they decided to make MMR voluntary, because of the false rumours she didn't have her children vaccinated. at the age of 9 her daughter caught measles, and as a result became deaf. Today she is in her 30's, single and still deaf, her mother had a breakdown due to her blaming herself for not vaccinating the children, today she is a manic depressive.
This is one of the main reasons why I am so against scaremongering, especially with unproven "facts".
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May 6, 2017 4:35 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
The irony there is that it really wouldnt be such a big deal in comparison, being on the spectrum.
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May 6, 2017 4:44 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
rizlared: My sister in law lived in a town where they decided to make MMR voluntary, because of the false rumours she didn't have her children vaccinated. at the age of 9 her daughter caught measles, and as a result became deaf. Today she is in her 30's, single and still deaf, her mother had a breakdown due to her blaming herself for not vaccinating the children, today she is a manic depressive.
This is one of the main reasons why I am so against scaremongering, especially with unproven "facts".


Sorry about your niece but yes that is a fact some children do get this disease with bad consequenses.

My own sons had allergies and in my younger days when I believed all I read i blindly had my sons inoculated. The MMR jab was not out then but after jabs because of their allergies they only recieved small doses and had stop in clinic to make sure no reaction. They had mumps and measles one was so bad they called in scarlet teener. However luckily like thousands of kids got the disease with no after effects.

There unfortunately was always some children out of thousands who succumbed with bad after effects. Your poor sister-in-law now seems to be taking it upon her shoulders for everything that happens to her daughter.
Manic depression does not come on from purely stress she may have that in her genetic makeup anyway. Stress can make manic eposides worse but not make the disease initially.

Still the relatively few cases in the grand scheme of things should not make the inoculation 3fold nor make it maditorysad flower
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May 6, 2017 5:03 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Redex: Sorry about your niece but yes that is a fact some children do get this disease with bad consequenses.

My own sons had allergies and in my younger days when I believed all I read i blindly had my sons inoculated. The MMR jab was not out then but after jabs because of their allergies they only recieved small doses and had stop in clinic to make sure no reaction. They had mumps and measles one was so bad they called in scarlet teener. However luckily like thousands of kids got the disease with no after effects.

There unfortunately was always some children out of thousands who succumbed with bad after effects. Your poor sister-in-law now seems to be taking it upon her shoulders for everything that happens to her daughter.
Manic depression does not come on from purely stress she may have that in her genetic makeup anyway. Stress can make manic eposides worse but not make the disease initially.

Still the relatively few cases in the grand scheme of things should not make the inoculation 3fold nor make it maditory


Have to agree to disagreebouquet
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May 6, 2017 5:07 AM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
rizlared: Have to agree to disagree


thank you for being gentlemanly about it that is a treat on cs
teddybear
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May 6, 2017 12:24 PM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
Proof That Thimerosal Induces Autism-Like Neurotoxicity
August 06, 2009 | 103,929 views


A new scientific study proves that the mercury-based compound used as vaccine preservative -- known as ‘thimerosal’ -- induces neural damage similar to that seen in autism patients.vaccine, thimerosal

According to the study, thimerosal-induced cellular damage caused concentration- and time-dependent mitochondrial damage, reduced oxidative-reduction activity, cellular degeneration, and cell death. Thimerosal at low concentrations induced significant cellular toxicity in human neuronal and fetal cells.

Thimerosal was found to be significantly more toxic than the other metal compounds examined.

I’m always pleased to see another study confirming what vaccine-safety advocates have tried to get across for so long—that the mercury-based preservative thimerosal is seriously bad news and should never be injected. I don’t know how much proof will be required take to get the truth to finally get through, but a mountain of evidence is apparently still not enough for some nay-sayers.

This latest study confirms that damage does occur in human neuronal and fetal cells, even at low concentrations.

As you’ve likely heard by now, rates of autism in the U.S. have increased nearly 60-fold since the late 1970s, rising right along with the increasing number of vaccinations added to the childhood vaccination schedule.

This oftentimes debilitating neurological disorder now affects about one in 150 U.S. children, but an article in the Daily Mail two years ago reported the rate of autism in Great Britain could be as high as 1 in 58.

Although autism may be apparent soon after birth, most autistic children experience at least several months, or even a year or more of normal development -- followed by regression, defined as loss of function or failure to progress.

Typically, by the age of three, at which time the child has received at least 24 of their scheduled vaccinations, symptoms of autism are fully apparent, affecting their communication and social skills, and impairing the child's ability to play, speak and relate to the world.

The Genetic Catch-All

Many have tried to debunk the autism-vaccine link, oftentimes blaming the disorder on genetic factors, but the connection refuses to go away. And for valid reasons.

So far, scientists have been able to link genetic defects to a mere one percent of autism cases. Although the other 99 percent are still unaccounted for, conventional media rarely underscore this fact, focusing instead on the minority link to genetic predisposition.

For example, last year the U.S. government concluded that childhood vaccines contributed to symptoms of autism in 9-year-old Hannah Poling. According to U.S. Division of Vaccine Injury Compensation, the shots "significantly aggravated an underlying mitochondrial disorder" and resulted in a brain disorder "with features of autism spectrum disorder."

Again, they finally conceded that those with genetic predispositions can develop autism when injected with thimerosal. But industry is still refusing to take any responsibility for having anything to do with the other 99 percent of autism cases, and our health officials are playing along, protecting the interests of industry, not that of your child.
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May 6, 2017 12:36 PM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
All medications, including vaccines, can cause mild, moderate or severe adverse reactions. It can therefore be said that absolute safety (absence of any adverse reaction) does not exist when administering a vaccine.

Vaccines, unlike other medicines, are administered to healthy people for a preventive purpose and therefore it is necessary that their safety profile be maximum. This is an essential requirement for a healthy population to accept preventive vaccination.
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May 6, 2017 12:38 PM CST Do you VACCINATE your CHILDREN?
Lie #2 “Mercury was removed from all childhood vaccines in (pick any year between 1999 and the present).”

The Facts: After “realizing” the amount of mercury in the childhood vaccination schedule recommended by the CDC exceeded all national and global maximum safety limits, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the United States Public Health Service called for the immediate removal of Thimerosal from all vaccines on July 7, 1999.

By 2003, the vaccine manufacturers had begun to react to the 1999 call by lowering the mercury content in many of the Thimerosal-preserved early childhood vaccines. However, in April of 2002, the CDC began recommending that pregnant women and very young children get annual Thimerosal-preserved flu shots. The result was a ‘shell game’ which has caused widespread confusion in the public because of press reports declaring, “Since (select a year between 1999 and the present), mercury has been removed from all recommended vaccines for children except for some flu shots.”

Astoundingly, the total level of mercury exposure, if a child receives all the possible CDC-recommended vaccinations that are still Thimerosal preserved, from 6 months to 18 years of age, has actually increased. Significantly, if you put the amount of mercury added to the immunization schedule as a result of the CDC-recommended seasonal and (in 2009) H1N1 flu shots** on one side of a scale, and the amount of mercury that was subtracted from that schedule by reformulating early childhood vaccines without Thimerosal on the other side, the total amount of mercury added far outweighs the amount of mercury subtracted. In addition, today most tetanus shots and the multi-dose Sanofi Menomune® vaccine that are approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) still contain 25-micrograms-a-dose mercury.

Currently, the actions taken by the vaccine manufacturers, the FDA and the CDC have increased the possible maximum childhood exposure to mercury from vaccines to twice the level that triggered the 1999 call to remove mercury from all vaccines as soon as possible! Also, new vaccine formulations with 25 micrograms of mercury per 0.5-mL dose are still being approved by the FDA for administration to pregnant women and children.

**Most doses of these flu vaccines are Thimerosal-preserved.
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