Why do long relationships sometimes breakdown; your opinion of the #1 factor? (73)
online today!online today!Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,428 PostspKrema: Being raw, honest and real suppose to be part of you anyway...
I think so
It might have something to do with many women not knowing what they want from men, turning men into, what they think they want them men to be, but realising that they don't really like them to be weak and spineless cry babies, because those type of men are not attractive to women and can never take charge of any situation...
Mercedes_00: I think so
The bloody laughing emoticon was not suppose to be there...sorry 
LeeCharming: It might have something to do with many women not knowing what they want from men, turning men into, what they think they want them men to be, but realising that they don't really like them to be weak and spineless cry babies, because those type of men are not attractive to women and can never take charge of any situation...
Hmm I don't mind a man with a sensitive side. In fact I find it quite charming (excuse the pun)I know what I want and don't want 99% of the time. Often I have found that men try to change what I want.
Even down to why I come on here. I make it clear I don't want anything and I have no intention of taking it off here. It gets ignored, then comes the pushy and the attempts at manipulation to take it further. Totally dismissing and disrespecting the fact I was honest with them to begin with.
I am certainly capable of saying at any given time of what I want, need and desire. I can't make people listen though. So it isn't all women.
It has got to the stage I have removed my pictures to escape the messages of that nature.
online today!I think a lot of it is the patience to wait for someone, maybe the lack of a timeline. I would wait my whole life for the right one.
LeeCharming: It might have something to do with many women not knowing what they want from men, turning men into, what they think they want them men to be, but realising that they don't really like them to be weak and spineless cry babies, because those type of men are not attractive to women and can never take charge of any situation...
BEING that type of male, Lee, YOU SHOULD know about it! 
MsContessa: Falling in love is a very magical thing which many are forgetting..
However, you have to be vulnerable to fall in love.
Some see vulnerability as a weakness rather than as a strength which it is..
So, many are weak and prefer to stay single rather than put their heart on the line.
pKrema: I would disagree with that Ms,
falling in love doesn't require vulnerability...but to show your love you have to be prepared to be vulnerable...
Being vulnerable doesn't make you strong...it makes you exposed and weak...
Mercedes: I agree with exposed but I don't believe it makes for being weak to me exposing yourself is all about being raw /honest.and real
"I" THINK you have to look at the man, and his method and timing of exposing his vulnerability. Depending on THOSE, the man might be being "vulnerable UNWILLINGLY! In which case he IS a weak man. In OTHER cases, he COULD be TRYING to let/bring you INTO his life/world. In which case he would be exposing himself WILLFULLY! Which would INDICATE that he feels strong and secure ENOUGH, in his person, to let you SEE the REAL man (behind the mask)! It's a situation by situation, person by person call! There IS no "one size fits all"! JMO
However, you have to be vulnerable to fall in love.
Some see vulnerability as a weakness rather than as a strength which it is..
So, many are weak and prefer to stay single rather than put their heart on the line.
pKrema: I would disagree with that Ms,
falling in love doesn't require vulnerability...but to show your love you have to be prepared to be vulnerable...
Being vulnerable doesn't make you strong...it makes you exposed and weak...
Mercedes: I agree with exposed but I don't believe it makes for being weak to me exposing yourself is all about being raw /honest.and real
"I" THINK you have to look at the man, and his method and timing of exposing his vulnerability. Depending on THOSE, the man might be being "vulnerable UNWILLINGLY! In which case he IS a weak man. In OTHER cases, he COULD be TRYING to let/bring you INTO his life/world. In which case he would be exposing himself WILLFULLY! Which would INDICATE that he feels strong and secure ENOUGH, in his person, to let you SEE the REAL man (behind the mask)! It's a situation by situation, person by person call! There IS no "one size fits all"! JMO
Let_Us: MsContessa: Falling in love is a very magical thing which many are forgetting..
However, you have to be vulnerable to fall in love.
Some see vulnerability as a weakness rather than as a strength which it is..
So, many are weak and prefer to stay single rather than put their heart on the line.
pKrema: I would disagree with that Ms,
falling in love doesn't require vulnerability...but to show your love you have to be prepared to be vulnerable...
Being vulnerable doesn't make you strong...it makes you exposed and weak...
Mercedes: I agree with exposed but I don't believe it makes for being weak to me exposing yourself is all about being raw /honest.and real
"I" THINK you have to look at the man, and his method and timing of exposing his vulnerability. Depending on THOSE, the man might be being "vulnerable UNWILLINGLY! In which case he IS a weak man. In OTHER cases, he COULD be TRYING to let/bring you INTO his life/world. In which case he would be exposing himself WILLFULLY! Which would INDICATE that he feels strong and secure ENOUGH, in his person, to let you SEE the REAL man (behind the mask)! It's a situation by situation, person by person call! There IS no "one size fits all"! JMO
I was talking about exposing myself I'm yet to come across a real man who is able to have the gut's to open up and be a real decent human being like myself..However, you have to be vulnerable to fall in love.
Some see vulnerability as a weakness rather than as a strength which it is..
So, many are weak and prefer to stay single rather than put their heart on the line.
pKrema: I would disagree with that Ms,
falling in love doesn't require vulnerability...but to show your love you have to be prepared to be vulnerable...
Being vulnerable doesn't make you strong...it makes you exposed and weak...
Mercedes: I agree with exposed but I don't believe it makes for being weak to me exposing yourself is all about being raw /honest.and real
"I" THINK you have to look at the man, and his method and timing of exposing his vulnerability. Depending on THOSE, the man might be being "vulnerable UNWILLINGLY! In which case he IS a weak man. In OTHER cases, he COULD be TRYING to let/bring you INTO his life/world. In which case he would be exposing himself WILLFULLY! Which would INDICATE that he feels strong and secure ENOUGH, in his person, to let you SEE the REAL man (behind the mask)! It's a situation by situation, person by person call! There IS no "one size fits all"! JMO
I keep it real I come as I am if that's not good enough that's on them not me.
LeeCharming: It might have something to do with many women not knowing what they want from men, turning men into, what they think they want them men to be, but realising that they don't really like them to be weak and spineless cry babies, because those type of men are not attractive to women and can never take charge of any situation...
Hey Lee? Is there ANYTHING ELSE you wanna BLAME on women, before I sign off, tonight? 
I'm just wondering whether I should STICK AROUND for your NEXT joke? 
Mercedes_00: I was talking about exposing myself I'm yet to come across a real man who is able to have the gut's to open up and be a real decent human being like myself..
I keep it real I come as I am if that's not good enough that's on them not me.
I keep it real I come as I am if that's not good enough that's on them not me.
Well, I guess "I" DON'T make your LIST of men, then? I THINK I've always been pretty straight forward, open and honest, in my statements/presentations, on these forums! I COULD BE liked, a LOT more than I AM, IF I wasn't! I say what I think and feel. I CAN'T speak for ANY of the OTHER men, here, because I DON'T KNOW any of them. But "I" have exposed some things about myself, here, that I had NO NEED to tell anybody. I LIKE you, M! I THINK you know that. So PLEASE don't represent yourself as the ONLY PERSON that calls it like like they see it, and the world be damned, HERE! I THINK there are a LOT of "decent" people, here! BOTH men and women! INCLUDING YOU! 
Let_Us: Well, I guess "I" DON'T make your LIST of men, then? I THINK I've always been pretty straight forward, open and honest, in my statements/presentations, on these forums! I COULD BE liked, a LOT more than I AM, IF I wasn't! I say what I think and feel. I CAN'T speak for ANY of the OTHER men, here, because I DON'T KNOW any of them. But "I" have exposed some things about myself, here, that I had NO NEED to tell anybody. I LIKE you, M! I THINK you know that. So PLEASE don't represent yourself as the ONLY PERSON that calls it like like they see it, and the world be damned, HERE! I THINK there are a LOT of "decent" people, here! BOTH men and women! INCLUDING YOU!
My post wasn't aimed at you or any other poster for that matter my post was in reference to me getting to know another guy on another level for maybe something down the track nothing to do with who i associate with on forums.
Many factors are involved. First we need to look at our change in society. Our main stream news media has brainwashed most people to the point that most people no longer know truth from fiction and right from wrong. Most people have abandoned common sense and moral values. Lying, cheating and taking advantage of others has become a way of life and seems to be the norm.
With that said, let's look at some other important factors. Most people go thru life pretending to be the kind of person they wish they were instead of being honest with themselves about who they really are and how they really feel about things because they don't like who they really are. They even fool themselves because they simply refuse to admit to themselves who and what they really are. It's not until you live with someone for some time before you really get to know the real them and at that point you know them better then they know themselves because you can see the real them but they refuse to see the real them.
Fifty years ago the "For better or worse" in wedding vows meant much more then it does today because our options and opportunities were much more limited then they are today. With today's technology and and social media our options and opportunities are much greater and it seems to be easier to find a new mate then to work out problems with the present mate.
Combine those two factors alone and it is easy to see why marriages and relationships don't last. In today's society, two truly honest people, that don't try to pretend to be someone other then who they really are, rarely meet let alone fall in love.
With that said, let's look at some other important factors. Most people go thru life pretending to be the kind of person they wish they were instead of being honest with themselves about who they really are and how they really feel about things because they don't like who they really are. They even fool themselves because they simply refuse to admit to themselves who and what they really are. It's not until you live with someone for some time before you really get to know the real them and at that point you know them better then they know themselves because you can see the real them but they refuse to see the real them.
Fifty years ago the "For better or worse" in wedding vows meant much more then it does today because our options and opportunities were much more limited then they are today. With today's technology and and social media our options and opportunities are much greater and it seems to be easier to find a new mate then to work out problems with the present mate.
Combine those two factors alone and it is easy to see why marriages and relationships don't last. In today's society, two truly honest people, that don't try to pretend to be someone other then who they really are, rarely meet let alone fall in love.
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