Is Jeremy Corbyn starting a new world movement? ( Archived) (54)

Old people should concede to Theresa May's modest demands to reduce their benefits and calls for wealthy members of the elderly to rely on the state less. And then the Right should use that money to soften the blow for the country's productive ages, you can't have most people under 50 voting for Corbyn; an alternative to serving the assets of a geriatric class of aristocracy fortuned by year of birth must be made. An alternative which isn't replacing everyone under 50 with immigrant workers.

Jeremiah still thinks there are "FREE" Lunches!

Lenin,and Marx was his Grand-daddy!

I think we might be looking at calls for the mass immigration of professional and high-skilled labour.

If the Right wants to gut our wages, drive down standards, and axe the welfare state then there's no way we can afford to subsidise our professionals. When the Tories drive down our conditions to the pitiful levels in the impoverished east we must demand the same for the bourgeoise. Our rich must become globally competitive, too.

We can't have labourers being paid £100 a week and then the train to work costing £110 a week instead of £20 because we pay consultants £90 an hour. White British consultants must be replaced by high caste Indian consultants who will do the same job for £20 an hour. If the Right-wing gets what it wants then we will not be able to afford to subsidise well-off individuals to the tune of tens of thousands of pounds a year. The bourgeoisie must be placed in open competition with the bourgeoisie in other lands. We can not have a low-wage economy with astronomical prices created by the protectionist racquets of professionals who want capitalism for everybody but themselves.

The answer to this must not be the answer we found before - to lend all the little people £100 a week and then hate them for being in debt.

Ain't THAT just The Truth Bro

Meanwhile the Tories appear united as they don't have any pesky 'real people' to disagree ... they'll follow the Party Whip to keep their big salaries and places at the Gravy Station !

Any proper grown up will agree that mixed economies are the reality and there's a time and a place for government and many people are looking at how Scandinavia works. Economically free but socially protected.

Longtem however, and chiefly because of diversity and mass immigration, we won't have the national fellow-feeling and social trust to build a society as well-organised and mature as that. The likelihood imo is that societies default on a Universal Basic Income as the answer to social ills purely because of how simple it is. A moron could implement UBI and that's why it's got our name written all over it. Scandinavia may have a UBI as an addition, but in other lands I imagine there being a UBI and not a lot else(tho I expect Europe will retain its healthcare systems)

Supporting the world going this way is the fact an ever-increasing proportion of goods cost the same to produce whether you make 1 copy or a billion. The abundance of goods and the relatively small supply of meaningful jobs will lead to giving everyone free money.

Now some of the right is today attempting to artifically induce scarcity so that wives obey husbands, workers work harder, and children study finance and war instead of art and philosophy. Technical progress is being thrown away along with everything else progressive in an effort to harden society and bring it down to earth with a crashing thud.

Jeremy Corbyn says he got successful election ideas from Bernie Sanders.

hope he never paid for them as they did not work for either Sanders or Corbyn

There has been a few cases here where banks would not release security over farms even though loans had been paid off . Bank debt is seen as an asset , showing the total amount at the start of a loan shows a higher asset value than whats left near the end of the mortgage . Banks seem to take great comfort showing a high asset value rather than whats owed to them .

Jeremiah has been stiffed by Bernie!

don't loose sight of all the derivatives (legal binding contractual instruments floating about space) that some say they forgave, (except in the case of Greece emmm) the same derivatives that sunk Iceland, those contractual obligations of unknown valve still floating about up cyberspace. lest we forget

Let it roar , the fools still need food no matter what . Last time the banks and government was shafting farmers and making damn sure we still supplied food while billing us for the cull ewes I put them in a hole . Do the same again with the cattle if they become worthless but needed to keep every one in work . Wool this year would not cover the cost of shearing for some , PGG Wrightson only too happy to sell the wool as they are paid by bale . Store it or burn it , never let the farkers make a buck from ya for nothing .
Allan Wallbank , MP for Gisborne and under sectary for Agriculture in the Lange government addressed a staff meeting at the soon to be closed Advanced Meat Works (AML) , he replied to a question about farmers not being paid for their sheep and said that they had to keep sending them in no matter what . There were quite a few farmers and farmers sons working in the works at the time trying to pay their farm debts , they new were the numbers were heading .