Should parents be jailed for not vaccinating their children? (19)
not all children are the same.......some it may not affect them....with others it could be life threatning.......take Penicillin........for instance.....if you love your children......it one hell of a choice.....jmo.
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I believe some parents object to injecting their vulnerable newborns and children with the vast quantities of mercury that are used in the preservatives in vaccinations.
I've heard in the US, vaccinating for chicken pox is compulsory. Chicken pox isn't fatal. It's just an illness.
What your suggesting by asking whether non-compliant parents should be jailed, is that children are emotionally traumatised and possible scarred, by having their parents taken away from them.
I strongly suspect governments and pharmaceutical companies of being a little more interested in profit than children's welfare. If it were otherwise, then they'd go to the trouble and expense of making the vaccinations less toxic.
Jailing non-compliant parents would extend the less than scrupulous powers of big business over the welfare of our children and grandchildren.
I've heard in the US, vaccinating for chicken pox is compulsory. Chicken pox isn't fatal. It's just an illness.
What your suggesting by asking whether non-compliant parents should be jailed, is that children are emotionally traumatised and possible scarred, by having their parents taken away from them.
I strongly suspect governments and pharmaceutical companies of being a little more interested in profit than children's welfare. If it were otherwise, then they'd go to the trouble and expense of making the vaccinations less toxic.
Jailing non-compliant parents would extend the less than scrupulous powers of big business over the welfare of our children and grandchildren.
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jac_the_gripper: I believe some parents object to injecting their vulnerable newborns and children with the vast quantities of mercury that are used in the preservatives in vaccinations.
I've heard in the US, vaccinating for chicken pox is compulsory. Chicken pox isn't fatal. It's just an illness.
What your suggesting by asking whether non-compliant parents should be jailed, is that children are emotionally traumatised and possible scarred, by having their parents taken away from them.
I strongly suspect governments and pharmaceutical companies of being a little more interested in profit than children's welfare. If it were otherwise, then they'd go to the trouble and expense of making the vaccinations less toxic.
Jailing non-compliant parents would extend the less than scrupulous powers of big business over the welfare of our children and grandchildren.
I've heard in the US, vaccinating for chicken pox is compulsory. Chicken pox isn't fatal. It's just an illness.
What your suggesting by asking whether non-compliant parents should be jailed, is that children are emotionally traumatised and possible scarred, by having their parents taken away from them.
I strongly suspect governments and pharmaceutical companies of being a little more interested in profit than children's welfare. If it were otherwise, then they'd go to the trouble and expense of making the vaccinations less toxic.
Jailing non-compliant parents would extend the less than scrupulous powers of big business over the welfare of our children and grandchildren.
I think the choice should be the parents except in things like mass pandemics.
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There should be more independent research into the potential ill-effects of them, if any.
Also multi-vaccinations v. single vaccinations
That would give parents peace of mind, once and for all.
Also multi-vaccinations v. single vaccinations
That would give parents peace of mind, once and for all.
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String the lot of 'em up
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They stopped vaccinating for smallpox in 1975 or so. I'm waiting for that pandemic to surface.
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Jada_Bella: Let me think 
.. HELL NO!
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think if you don't give these vacinations to your kids your just been plain stupid
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To each their own.
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does jail work?
Do you mean jail as a punishment or as a scare tactics?
Nobody wins with putting someone in jail, and any force will get a counterforce.
Labelling the children sounds also cruel.
I would suggest a travel restriction or so.
I find it hard, because when a doctor can't persuade you, then maybe something doesn't fit.
But logic is disappearing. Vaccines did eliminate some epidemics.
However we do lack new vaccines. HEP-C, malaria, herpes, ...
However inbreeding is still happening. amazing for 1st world countries, but hey
Even in our country we do have medical events because the inflow of some unvaccinated people.
I find it strange to see polio cases. and to think that was more common before.
But i would try to fix the inbreeding first
Do you mean jail as a punishment or as a scare tactics?
Nobody wins with putting someone in jail, and any force will get a counterforce.
Labelling the children sounds also cruel.
I would suggest a travel restriction or so.
I find it hard, because when a doctor can't persuade you, then maybe something doesn't fit.
But logic is disappearing. Vaccines did eliminate some epidemics.
However we do lack new vaccines. HEP-C, malaria, herpes, ...
However inbreeding is still happening. amazing for 1st world countries, but hey
Even in our country we do have medical events because the inflow of some unvaccinated people.
I find it strange to see polio cases. and to think that was more common before.
But i would try to fix the inbreeding first
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Vaccinations have saved hundreds of millions of lives and the benefits for society far outweigh any disadvantages. People who refuse to vaccinate their children are knowingly putting them at risk. Below are three links that are worth reading.
Community Immunity ("Herd Immunity")
Vaccines can prevent outbreaks of disease and save lives.
When a critical portion of a community is immunized against a contagious disease, most members of the community are protected against that disease because there is little opportunity for an outbreak. Even those who are not eligible for certain vaccines—such as infants, pregnant women, or immunocompromised individuals—get some protection because the spread of contagious disease is contained. This is known as "community immunity."
The principle of community immunity applies to control of a variety of contagious diseases, including influenza, measles, mumps, rotavirus, and pneumococcal disease.
Measles is spreading across Europe wherever immunisation coverage has dropped, the World Health Organization is warning. 28 March 2017
The largest outbreaks are being seen in Italy and Romania.
All vaccines routinely recommended for children 6 years of age and younger in the U.S. are available in formulations that do not contain thimerosal.
Vaccines that do not contain thimerosal as a preservative are also available for adolescents and adults.
A robust body of peer-reviewed scientific studies conducted in the U.S. and other countries support the safety of thimerosal-containing vaccines.
Preservatives prevent microbial growth.
A preservative is required in multi-dose vials of vaccines.
The use of thimerosal as a preservative in vaccines has markedly declined due to reformulation and development of new vaccines in single-use presentations.
Community Immunity ("Herd Immunity")
Vaccines can prevent outbreaks of disease and save lives.
When a critical portion of a community is immunized against a contagious disease, most members of the community are protected against that disease because there is little opportunity for an outbreak. Even those who are not eligible for certain vaccines—such as infants, pregnant women, or immunocompromised individuals—get some protection because the spread of contagious disease is contained. This is known as "community immunity."
The principle of community immunity applies to control of a variety of contagious diseases, including influenza, measles, mumps, rotavirus, and pneumococcal disease.
Measles is spreading across Europe wherever immunisation coverage has dropped, the World Health Organization is warning. 28 March 2017
The largest outbreaks are being seen in Italy and Romania.
All vaccines routinely recommended for children 6 years of age and younger in the U.S. are available in formulations that do not contain thimerosal.
Vaccines that do not contain thimerosal as a preservative are also available for adolescents and adults.
A robust body of peer-reviewed scientific studies conducted in the U.S. and other countries support the safety of thimerosal-containing vaccines.
Preservatives prevent microbial growth.
A preservative is required in multi-dose vials of vaccines.
The use of thimerosal as a preservative in vaccines has markedly declined due to reformulation and development of new vaccines in single-use presentations.
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I've never seen vaccinations stop absences and people from getting sick. It must be harsh to be vaccinated then end up in the hospital with walking pneumonia from the flu.
That's just another minor illness people get vaccinated for.
I've never seen it stop varicella or measles. Getting them once seems to be the trick for the largest portions of that.
I don't trust vaccinations and I've had many up until I left the armed services of the U.S.
Some one else made a super valid point. If children have been vaccinated then why should any one worry about the ones that aren't?
That says an awful lot about the idea of "vaccinating" all on it's own.
It should be left to the parents to decide.
That's just another minor illness people get vaccinated for.
I've never seen it stop varicella or measles. Getting them once seems to be the trick for the largest portions of that.
I don't trust vaccinations and I've had many up until I left the armed services of the U.S.
Some one else made a super valid point. If children have been vaccinated then why should any one worry about the ones that aren't?
That says an awful lot about the idea of "vaccinating" all on it's own.
It should be left to the parents to decide.
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Draegoneer: I've never seen vaccinations stop absences and people from getting sick. It must be harsh to be vaccinated then end up in the hospital with walking pneumonia from the flu.
That's just another minor illness people get vaccinated for.
I've never seen it stop varicella or measles. Getting them once seems to be the trick for the largest portions of that.
I don't trust vaccinations and I've had many up until I left the armed services of the U.S.
Some one else made a super valid point. If children have been vaccinated then why should any one worry about the ones that aren't?
That says an awful lot about the idea of "vaccinating" all on it's own.
It should be left to the parents to decide.
That's just another minor illness people get vaccinated for.
I've never seen it stop varicella or measles. Getting them once seems to be the trick for the largest portions of that.
I don't trust vaccinations and I've had many up until I left the armed services of the U.S.
Some one else made a super valid point. If children have been vaccinated then why should any one worry about the ones that aren't?
That says an awful lot about the idea of "vaccinating" all on it's own.
It should be left to the parents to decide.
There is a lot of evidence that vaccines do work, those that don't get vaccinated risk the chance of spreading a disease further, and that can put innocent lives at risk.
Logic would dictate that eliminating a disease is far better than letting it run uncontrolled and cause unnecessary death, elimination can ONLY happen if all are vaccinated.
Having said that to imprison parents who refuse is somewhat harsh and as Jac said, would cause a greater problem than catching a cold.
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I don't think vaccinations help any where near as much as better habits.
Viruses mutate accordingly just the same as any life form adapts to their surroundings.
Proper antibiotics would have a greater impact as needed, if the environment for them to build their own immunitties wasn't so forward.
Many illnesses that used to be major are very minor now. I haven't had a single shot for any thing in over 20 years.
I also use a lot of natural remedies fairly regularly with vitamin boosters as needed instead of doctor visits for medication. It's true some of those natural anti-oxidants, honey, garlic, etc, may cause allergies for some. There are still many more options.
I have to add, my youngest is rarely in the doctor's office. My child's exposure to large groups of people is every bit as great as mine. We see more than few people every year getting vaccinated for some of those minor illnesses then out for medical, most often related to what they were vaccinated for, every year.
If something is going to get you, I don't think a vaccination is going to stop it. Depending on a person's habits, with the system is already in revolt against a vaccine of something "dead" or weakened, you might have just made it worse for your self.
Viruses mutate accordingly just the same as any life form adapts to their surroundings.
Proper antibiotics would have a greater impact as needed, if the environment for them to build their own immunitties wasn't so forward.
Many illnesses that used to be major are very minor now. I haven't had a single shot for any thing in over 20 years.
I also use a lot of natural remedies fairly regularly with vitamin boosters as needed instead of doctor visits for medication. It's true some of those natural anti-oxidants, honey, garlic, etc, may cause allergies for some. There are still many more options.
I have to add, my youngest is rarely in the doctor's office. My child's exposure to large groups of people is every bit as great as mine. We see more than few people every year getting vaccinated for some of those minor illnesses then out for medical, most often related to what they were vaccinated for, every year.
If something is going to get you, I don't think a vaccination is going to stop it. Depending on a person's habits, with the system is already in revolt against a vaccine of something "dead" or weakened, you might have just made it worse for your self.
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maybe the reason you and your family have not been sick is because those around you have been vaccinated.
Just a thought
Just a thought
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One simple question: What are the reasonable steps to take to prevent infecting a community?
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We're around some of those being out for being sick. Possibly 40-50% of those groups out of hundreds, end up in the hospital. Not just older, but younger too. We're fully exposed. I can't say how many more get sick but not quite enough to stop going to work or school.
It's another scenario over the years where I fail to see that it does any actual good. I do get sick about once a year. Roughly three days or so and the worst is done and gone. If I'm lucky, it's over a weekend and I can take extra rest, fluids, and anti-oxidants. Many good cooking spices are healthy too.
My favorite question to answer twice a year or so as a person is sneezing, coughing, etc: "Did you get the flu shot?" "Nope".
The only other thing that could help more, would be getting back to being a lot more physically active again.
It's another scenario over the years where I fail to see that it does any actual good. I do get sick about once a year. Roughly three days or so and the worst is done and gone. If I'm lucky, it's over a weekend and I can take extra rest, fluids, and anti-oxidants. Many good cooking spices are healthy too.
My favorite question to answer twice a year or so as a person is sneezing, coughing, etc: "Did you get the flu shot?" "Nope".
The only other thing that could help more, would be getting back to being a lot more physically active again.
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To answer any flu claims.
Maybe you should write a paper on that experience.
To aid in your search.
wikipedia page on tetanus.
"Epidemiology
In 2013 it caused about 59,000 deaths – down from 356,000 in 1990. Tetanus – in particular, the neonatal form – remains a significant public health problem in non-industrialized countries with 59,000 newborns worldwide dying in 2008 as a result of neonatal tetanus. In the United States, from 2000 through 2007 an average of 31 cases were reported per year. Nearly all of the cases in the United States occur in unimmunized individuals or individuals who have allowed their inoculations to lapse.[8
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wikipedia page on rabies.
Vaccinating other animals
"The number of recorded human deaths from rabies in the United States has dropped from 100 or more annually in the early 20th century to one or two per year due to widespread vaccination of domestic dogs and cats and the development of human vaccines and immunoglobulin treatments. Most deaths now result from bat bites, which may go unnoticed by the victim and hence untreated.
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"In unvaccinated humans, rabies is almost always fatal after neurological symptoms have developed."
The research can be found while browsing that site.
Maybe you should write a paper on that experience.
To aid in your search.
wikipedia page on tetanus.
"Epidemiology
In 2013 it caused about 59,000 deaths – down from 356,000 in 1990. Tetanus – in particular, the neonatal form – remains a significant public health problem in non-industrialized countries with 59,000 newborns worldwide dying in 2008 as a result of neonatal tetanus. In the United States, from 2000 through 2007 an average of 31 cases were reported per year. Nearly all of the cases in the United States occur in unimmunized individuals or individuals who have allowed their inoculations to lapse.[8
"
wikipedia page on rabies.
Vaccinating other animals
"The number of recorded human deaths from rabies in the United States has dropped from 100 or more annually in the early 20th century to one or two per year due to widespread vaccination of domestic dogs and cats and the development of human vaccines and immunoglobulin treatments. Most deaths now result from bat bites, which may go unnoticed by the victim and hence untreated.
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"In unvaccinated humans, rabies is almost always fatal after neurological symptoms have developed."
The research can be found while browsing that site.
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Yes, they should be!!
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