Should the USA exit the UN? ( Archived) (39)

Nov 25, 2017 7:38 AM CSTShould the USA exit the UN?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio, USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts

Should the USA exit the UN?(Vote Below)

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Yes
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No
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The UN is more corrupt than our own government, it is no friend of the USA, it serves no benefit to the USA while sucking more money from the USA than any other country, and it doesn’t let other nations grow up and make their own decisions and settle disputes among themselves without supervision.


Debate if you like.....
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Nov 25, 2017 7:46 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
Duromojon
DuromojonDuromojonTampa, Florida USA99 Threads 1,224 Posts
a big NO. cause this is another Trump creation of his America
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Nov 25, 2017 8:09 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Duromojon: a big NO. cause this is another Trump creation of his America


Trump’s creation? confused he did not start this poll? confused


I like what Winston Churchill, said long ago... there are “no eternal allies” and “no perpetual enemies” for any nation. So, let everyone pay their own fare share and way in this world and settle their own differences.


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Nov 25, 2017 8:11 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
Duromojon
DuromojonDuromojonTampa, Florida USA99 Threads 1,224 Posts
this poll is yours. US leaving U.N. is Trump creation.

but I care nothing about U.N. just another decoration.thumbs up
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Nov 25, 2017 8:15 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Duromojon: this poll is yours. US leaving U.N. is Trump creation.

but I care nothing about U.N. just another decoration.


I didn’t know Trump wants the USA to exit the UN? About time we got rid of that economic anchor. We fund the UN so it can create policy which is opposed to what the USA stands for and allows. Trump has it right on exiting the UN.


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Nov 25, 2017 8:21 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
Duromojon
DuromojonDuromojonTampa, Florida USA99 Threads 1,224 Posts
you didn't know? Trump being bragging about leaving NATO and U.N.

since he was a candidate. and you didn't know?confused
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Nov 25, 2017 8:29 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Trump is bragging about something he hasn’t done? confused


So, why do other nations' issues need to be addressed by the USA?
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Nov 25, 2017 8:35 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
Duromojon
DuromojonDuromojonTampa, Florida USA99 Threads 1,224 Posts
where were you during the last elections campaign?drinking laugh
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Nov 25, 2017 9:11 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
Which Nation is currently hosting the UN headquarters? The UN with its thousands of well paid expats contributing to the thriving of the local economy and the vibrant cultural life... isn't the HQ situated in NY, home city to president Trump (and his real estate empire)? Do you seriously even consider he's going to shoot himself in the foot?

And if so, where would you like the UN HQ to relocate to? Moscow? Bejing? ... or devote a last diplomatic effort to bestow the new UN HQ onto some allied nation ... e.g. in Toronto ? Vienna ? Berlin ?
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Nov 25, 2017 9:15 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
Duromojon
DuromojonDuromojonTampa, Florida USA99 Threads 1,224 Posts
U.N. should be somewhere in Europe. Western Europe.

Like NATO HQsbeer
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Nov 25, 2017 9:37 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
Well sorry i did not vote but Trump in my opinion is the only one who has stood up and told some in the UN to pay there dues, grin

I do like that quote from Winston Churchill.

How are we ever going to get sensible talks with Eastern countries in these so called enlightened times if one sede of earth gangs up against another .

what will we do when alienstransport invade, just fictional at the moment but going to the moon was fiction at one tome toogrin
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Nov 25, 2017 1:22 PM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
HOw about the US agree to the International Criminal Court and allow itself to be judged by the world on it's war record?

If there were no crimes and atrocities ... nothing to worry about eh ?

On the other hand of course ...
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Nov 25, 2017 1:58 PM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
HexagonKeySet: HOw about the US agree to the International Criminal Court and allow itself to be judged by the world on it's war record?

If there were no crimes and atrocities ... nothing to worry about eh ?

On the other hand of course ...



Why would the USA agree to such nonsense? confused


why don’t you volunteer to prosecute all the communist atrocities perpetrated on their own people and humanity?



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Nov 25, 2017 6:25 PM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
galrads: Those ICC people have to be high on something just in thinking they want recognized for ruling these United States of America. Even POTUS Obama didn’t give them any time.
Having courts outside a country having power over a country is ceding sovereignty . Our new government wanted changes to the TPPA on that point . If Trumpy seriously gets pissed off with the UN putting country's with dictators running them on human rights committees and the like I am sure with his skills he will be able to make it look like the UN is expelling the US .Some of the crap directed at Israel just defies intelligence .
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Nov 25, 2017 6:39 PM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
epirb: Having courts outside a country having power over a country is ceding sovereignty . Our new government wanted changes to the TPPA on that point . If Trumpy seriously gets pissed off with the UN putting country's with dictators running them on human rights committees and the like I am sure with his skills he will be able to make it look like the UN is expelling the US .Some of the crap directed at Israel just defies intelligence .


Yeah, pretty soon these icc guys will try to convince the world that Israel bought Paris from France and they need to give it back.


epi ... wave
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Nov 25, 2017 10:00 PM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
Just shows the hypocrisy of Uncle Sam ...

Barge in anywhere and create havoc, destabilise other countries under the guise of 'breaches of Human Rights' but never submit themselves to the rule of International Law?


As Duterte has said ... there ought be one rule of law for the whole world not a scenario where if his nation wages a war on drugs it's NOT OK but if the US wage a war on drugs they can do whatever ... including stage raids on other sovereign states, kidnap their leaders and try them in a US COurt!

Juss sayin'

cheers
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Nov 25, 2017 10:00 PM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
Should the USA exit the UN?

YESTERDAY! Last year! Last decade! We NEVER should have joined, AT ALL! Do you KNOW, that by "joining", UN rules/laws SUPERCEDE US law? We have AGREED to abide by UN decisions, whether they conflict with US law, or not! By SIGNED treaty! WHY would an American DO that??????????????? confused dunno frustrated
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Nov 25, 2017 10:15 PM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
Why would an American EVER stand by any Agreement they made ?

It's just not the 'done thing' is it ...

Like not invading other countries ... yanno, just as a 'for example'
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Nov 25, 2017 10:28 PM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
HexagonKeySet: Just shows the hypocrisy of Uncle Sam ...

Barge in anywhere and create havoc, destabilise other countries under the guise of 'breaches of Human Rights' but never submit themselves to the rule of International Law?


As Duterte has said ... there ought be one rule of law for the whole world not a scenario where if his nation wages a war on drugs it's NOT OK but if the US wage a war on drugs they can do whatever ... including stage raids on other sovereign states, kidnap their leaders and try them in a US COurt!

Juss sayin'


rolling on the floor laughing what are you smoking? Why would the only benevolent super power and sovereign nation (USA) want to give up its sovereignty to someone else. You’d probably be speaking Japanese and goose stepping around while you pick up litter if it wasn’t for the USA removing Japan and Germany as world threats.
The present day UN should tax any of its member nations and send the tax proceeds to the USA to pay off the USA’s national debt. This tax should equal 10% of each country’s GNP.



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Nov 26, 2017 5:46 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
Cloudgazer
CloudgazerCloudgazerCape Town, Western Cape South Africa1 Threads 1 Polls 4 Posts
I always thought the UN was the USA...like a diplomatic arm...and future military wing for a one world government
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Nov 26, 2017 6:22 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
The UN wants to register small arms in the USA. Imagine a group of people in the UN who can’t settle their own issues mostly without conflict, want to usurp the constitution of the USA?
Hilarious Clinton supported this idea.
They wanted to do it all in the name of eradicating the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in All Its Aspects (PoA). In all its aspects, everywhere.
What is illicit trade on small arms. And who epreally cares. All people should have a right to own and carry small arms everywhere. They save lives.


Stay away UN. NO KORE USA funds for the UN sinkhole.





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Nov 26, 2017 6:44 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
galrads: Trump’s creation? he did not start this poll?


I like what Winston Churchill, said long ago... there are “no eternal allies” and “no perpetual enemies” for any nation. So, let everyone pay their own fare share and way in this world and settle their own differences.
Like Churchill wise quote thumbs up Very true.wine
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Nov 26, 2017 6:47 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
galrads: Trump’s creation? he did not start this poll?


I like what Winston Churchill, said long ago... there are “no eternal allies” and “no perpetual enemies” for any nation. So, let everyone pay their own fare share and way in this world and settle their own differences.
libs n demoncrats blame it all on trump,the DC pervs,etc.the product of commoncore/libs,home school if possible!
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Nov 26, 2017 6:49 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
galrads: The UN wants to register small arms in the USA. Imagine a group of people in the UN who can’t settle their own issues mostly without conflict, want to usurp the constitution of the USA?
Hilarious Clinton supported this idea.
They wanted to do it all in the name of eradicating the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in All Its Aspects (PoA). In all its aspects, everywhere.
What is illicit trade on small arms. And who epreally cares. All people should have a right to own and carry small arms everywhere. They save lives.


Stay away UN. NO KORE USA funds for the UN sinkhole.
agree the UN is full of terrorist,etc.
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Nov 26, 2017 11:02 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
galrads: Trump is bragging about something he hasn’t done?


So, why do other nations' issues need to be addressed by the USA?



Because, as the old "Miller Beer" billboard used to say, "Because we're ALL in it, together!" For better, or worse (depends on your perspective), WE ALL are living on a VERY SMALL PLANET! And we SHOULD have some concern about what our "neighbors are doing, BECAUSE it affects/effects US! Sometimes in ways that we can't even imagine! wave comfort
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Nov 26, 2017 11:17 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
HexagonKeySet: HOw about the US agree to the International Criminal Court and allow itself to be judged by the world on it's war record?

If there were no crimes and atrocities ... nothing to worry about eh ?

On the other hand of course ...



YOU wanna try our reprobates? Go for it, man! I, for one, would LOVE to see them brought to justice! But you CAN'T "try" a country, for the actions of SOME of it's people! And who HASN'T made mistakes? Sure, we've been the bully of the neighborhood, lately (thanks to some UNinsightful egotists). But I'd like to know WHAT other "country" has done MORE for/towards the overall benefit of mankind, than the U.S.? The citizens of WHAT country have contributed MORE to overall "well-being" on mankind (materially and knowledge-wise), than "Americans"? And tell me THIS! What the hell has New Zealand done for the world - NOT "lately" - but EVER? confused Oh! I forgot! You produce a LOT of wool! dunno
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Nov 26, 2017 11:36 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
HexagonKeySet: HOw about the US agree to the International Criminal Court and allow itself to be judged by the world on it's war record?

If there were no crimes and atrocities ... nothing to worry about eh ?

On the other hand of course ...



OH! And one OTHER thing! What OTHER countries "allow" (YES! ALLOW, because we DON'T "have to"! There's NOBODY/COUNTRY in the world that can MAKE us!) themselves to "pilloried", "castigated", "inspected", and "condemned" the way WE do, without USING the "tools" at their disposal, to STOP it? Yes! We're the "UGLY Americans"! But there's NOT a greater, or MORE important country on Earth, today! The world's knowledge is DRIVEN by American universities! And it's jobs/methodologies are the product of are products of AMERICAN ingenuity/entrepreneurs. Yeah! We've got the world's most potent army, too! But, IF we didn't, can you GUESS how long it would take SOMEBODY to decide that the United States was a plum THEY'D like to pick? MAYBE 10 seconds, I'm supposing!

Sure. We're NOT perfect! And we have a LARGE population that's more concerned about having Saturday afternoons to ride their jet skis, than they are concerned about the state of the world, and their fellow man! But do YOU think the people of YOUR country are ANY different? Or BETTER? No offense, but "I" kinda DOUBT it!
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Nov 26, 2017 11:39 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
yes I agree they should exit the UN
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Nov 26, 2017 11:48 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
HexagonKeySet: Just shows the hypocrisy of Uncle Sam ...

Barge in anywhere and create havoc, destabilise other countries under the guise of 'breaches of Human Rights' but never submit themselves to the rule of International Law?


As Duterte has said ... there ought be one rule of law for the whole world not a scenario where if his nation wages a war on drugs it's NOT OK but if the US wage a war on drugs they can do whatever ... including stage raids on other sovereign states, kidnap their leaders and try them in a US COurt!

Juss sayin'



GREAT! I agree! There SHOULD BE "one law for all"! But has THAT state of affairs EVER existed/occurred on THIS world? Anywhere? ANY time? If so, let the rest of us in on this MAGNIFICENT nation/people! It's HUMAN NATURE that, WHEN somebody "accumulates" power, they start USING it! For better, or worse! (USUALLY worse!) And, since America/Americans CURRENTLY have the MOST power, they're going to be the one's EXERCISING that power! But just be glad it's NOT the Romans! Or Ghengis Khan! With THEM, you'd be thrown in jail (at the BEST), or beheaded (if NOT drawn and quartered, at the WORST) for voicing the opinion that their actions were wrong/bad!

America's NOT perfect! But it HAS a LOT to be said FOR it!
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Nov 26, 2017 11:59 AM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
HexagonKeySet: Just shows the hypocrisy of Uncle Sam ...

Barge in anywhere and create havoc, destabilise other countries under the guise of 'breaches of Human Rights' but never submit themselves to the rule of International Law?


As Duterte has said ... there ought be one rule of law for the whole world not a scenario where if his nation wages a war on drugs it's NOT OK but if the US wage a war on drugs they can do whatever ... including stage raids on other sovereign states, kidnap their leaders and try them in a US COurt!

Juss sayin'



And ANOTHER thing! How long ago WAS it, that you were PRAYING for US to "barge into" YOUR country, so you wouldn't have to be CONCERNED about the Japanese "BARGING INTO" your country? Sorry, but "I" think you're INDULGING in a "double standard", with/in your rhetoric!

As you SO APTLY said, "juss sayin' " dunno
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Nov 26, 2017 12:03 PM CST Should the USA exit the UN?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Somone else must be trolling with your account. This kind of statement is unlike the real CC. hmmm
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