Is gun control the solution to these unspeakable tragedies? (603)
Miwagi you are only American, who is being honest about your situation and the question is my friend? Will you be prepared to stand up to the deep state when the time comes?
For those doubters and one’s in denial…here is the proof, that Trump is just another spoke on the wheel , a globalist sell out and a yes man for the deep state.
The money was spent elsewhere and the wall gets no money for it.
He sold his voters out and gave them nothing, that he promised.
For those doubters and one’s in denial…here is the proof, that Trump is just another spoke on the wheel , a globalist sell out and a yes man for the deep state.
The money was spent elsewhere and the wall gets no money for it.
He sold his voters out and gave them nothing, that he promised.
4 The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of
himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it
from the State government. It is one of the "high powers"
delegated directly to the citizen, and 'is excepted out of
the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to
infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and
independent of the lawmaking power.
Texas Court Decision
Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)]
himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it
from the State government. It is one of the "high powers"
delegated directly to the citizen, and 'is excepted out of
the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to
infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and
independent of the lawmaking power.
Texas Court Decision
Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)]
Conrad73: 4 The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of
himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it
from the State government. It is one of the "high powers"
delegated directly to the citizen, and 'is excepted out of
the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to
infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and
independent of the lawmaking power.
Texas Court Decision
Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)]
states rights.himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it
from the State government. It is one of the "high powers"
delegated directly to the citizen, and 'is excepted out of
the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to
infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and
independent of the lawmaking power.
Texas Court Decision
Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)]
If people follow that sought of view nothing will ever change, responsible human beings would foster
Lets get something straight rizlared is a lying communist idiot
Gandhi said nothing of the kind so please stop making rizlareds silly stupid interpretation of Gandhi opinions solid when his opinion is complete crap
If you haven't yet then read about the Life and Times of Mahatma Gandhi then i suggest you might do so but please don't slander my opinion with rizlared lies.
Gandhi was an Indian activist who was the leader of the Indian independence movement against British rule. Employing nonviolent civil disobedience,
Mahatma meaning 'Great Soul'. He was an astute political campaigner who fought for Indian independence from British rule and for the rights of the Indian poor. His example of non-violent protest is still revered throughout the world today.
Lets get something straight rizlared is a lying communist idiot
Gandhi said nothing of the kind so please stop making rizlareds silly stupid interpretation of Gandhi opinions solid when his opinion is complete crap
If you haven't yet then read about the Life and Times of Mahatma Gandhi then i suggest you might do so but please don't slander my opinion with rizlared lies.
Gandhi was an Indian activist who was the leader of the Indian independence movement against British rule. Employing nonviolent civil disobedience,
Mahatma meaning 'Great Soul'. He was an astute political campaigner who fought for Indian independence from British rule and for the rights of the Indian poor. His example of non-violent protest is still revered throughout the world today.
rizlared: Gandi? Really?
Hence also do I advocate training in arms for those who believe in the method of violence. I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honor than that she should in a cowardly manner become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonor. - M.K. Gandhi, The Doctrine of the Sword.
Gandhi also explains that someone who cannot use violence to defend themselves or their family is a helpless coward and a "worm."
In his own words from the text Between Cowardice And Violence
...He who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honour by non-violently facing death may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden. He has no business to be the head of a family. He must either hide himself, or must rest content to live for ever in helplessness and be prepared to crawl like a worm at the bidding of a bully ..."
Be careful who you use as examples!!!
Stop talking crap palHence also do I advocate training in arms for those who believe in the method of violence. I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honor than that she should in a cowardly manner become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonor. - M.K. Gandhi, The Doctrine of the Sword.
Gandhi also explains that someone who cannot use violence to defend themselves or their family is a helpless coward and a "worm."
In his own words from the text Between Cowardice And Violence
...He who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honour by non-violently facing death may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden. He has no business to be the head of a family. He must either hide himself, or must rest content to live for ever in helplessness and be prepared to crawl like a worm at the bidding of a bully ..."
Be careful who you use as examples!!!
robplum: Stop talking crap pal
You started it, truth hurts I know
What Gandi did for India was amazing, but to paint him as a perfect God like man does a disservice to truth.
I didn't paint him as a god
he was a south African lawyer, who's wife refused (in SA) to empty a guests potty so Gandhi grabbed her by the seat of her p[ants and chucked her out on the street, he never let her back in either.
I didn't say he was a god, however i never mentioned anything about persons rights to defend themselves, which of course everyone has.
Your reply implied i'd stated something i never said, as you clearly spoke down to me as well as I found your comments were then linked by the OP to the Buddhist view, i so carefully explained how i felt about that.
Actually I felt deeply offended. I didn't care at all what you stated, as that was your right, even if you were talking crap i didn't mind.
However quite different matter when the comments were then made solid by the OP and linked to Mahayana teachings, quite different matter, any event your crapping on does nothing towards developing a path America could follow to stop their country wide gun totting craziness
he was a south African lawyer, who's wife refused (in SA) to empty a guests potty so Gandhi grabbed her by the seat of her p[ants and chucked her out on the street, he never let her back in either.
I didn't say he was a god, however i never mentioned anything about persons rights to defend themselves, which of course everyone has.
Your reply implied i'd stated something i never said, as you clearly spoke down to me as well as I found your comments were then linked by the OP to the Buddhist view, i so carefully explained how i felt about that.
Actually I felt deeply offended. I didn't care at all what you stated, as that was your right, even if you were talking crap i didn't mind.
However quite different matter when the comments were then made solid by the OP and linked to Mahayana teachings, quite different matter, any event your crapping on does nothing towards developing a path America could follow to stop their country wide gun totting craziness
robplum: I didn't paint him as a god
he was a south African lawyer, who's wife refused (in SA) to empty a guests potty so Gandhi grabbed her by the seat of her p[ants and chucked her out on the street, he never let her back in either.
I didn't say he was a god, however i never mentioned anything about persons rights to defend themselves, which of course everyone has.
Your reply implied i'd stated something i never said, as you clearly spoke down to me as well as I found your comments were then linked by the OP to the Buddhist view, i so carefully explained how i felt about that.
Actually I felt deeply offended. I didn't care at all what you stated, as that was your right, even if you were talking crap i didn't mind.
However quite different matter when the comments were then made solid by the OP and linked to Mahayana teachings, quite different matter, any event your crapping on does nothing towards developing a path America could follow to stop their country wide gun totting craziness
You said "Let's get something straight rizlared is a lying communist idiot he was a south African lawyer, who's wife refused (in SA) to empty a guests potty so Gandhi grabbed her by the seat of her p[ants and chucked her out on the street, he never let her back in either.
I didn't say he was a god, however i never mentioned anything about persons rights to defend themselves, which of course everyone has.
Your reply implied i'd stated something i never said, as you clearly spoke down to me as well as I found your comments were then linked by the OP to the Buddhist view, i so carefully explained how i felt about that.
Actually I felt deeply offended. I didn't care at all what you stated, as that was your right, even if you were talking crap i didn't mind.
However quite different matter when the comments were then made solid by the OP and linked to Mahayana teachings, quite different matter, any event your crapping on does nothing towards developing a path America could follow to stop their country wide gun totting craziness
Gandhi said nothing of the kind" Which was uncalled for, I simply pointed out that the myth surrounding Gandhi is not as clear as some would like to think, at no point did I make a derogatory remark about you. So either prove that I am a "lying communist idiot or lied about Gandi's comments" or take back those comments.
rizlared: You said "Let's get something straight rizlared is a lying communist idiot
Gandhi said nothing of the kind" Which was uncalled for, I simply pointed out that the myth surrounding Gandhi is not as clear as some would like to think, at no point did I make a derogatory remark about you. So either prove that I am a "lying communist idiot or lied about Gandi's comments" or take back those comments.
I only referred to Gandhi in the first sentence Gandhi said nothing of the kind" Which was uncalled for, I simply pointed out that the myth surrounding Gandhi is not as clear as some would like to think, at no point did I make a derogatory remark about you. So either prove that I am a "lying communist idiot or lied about Gandi's comments" or take back those comments.
you concluded saying,
Be careful who you use as examples!!!
The remainder of my expressed view, pertained to Mahayana Buddhist non violent view promoted by Dalai Lama's schools of thought. Which had nothing to do with promoting violence, nothing whatsoever to do with
So yes really these are:
Mahatma Gandhi/Quotes
Where there is love there is life.
Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.
In a gentle way, you can shake the world.
The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will.
A man is but the product of his thoughts; what he thinks, he becomes.
Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's needs, but not every man's greed.
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes.
I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet.
My post raised nothing relating to creating violence, or engaging in violence, defending ones self or any like manner and you concluded I should be careful who i use as example and i am saying you attempted to misconstrue the essence of my contribution to a reduction of gun violence in America something communists Chinese attacking non violence teachings of Dalai Lama constantly engage in. I think because that what the Chinese Communists you openly associate your self with certainly didn't do when they invaded Tibet, they murdered Monks and Nuns, Lamas, including even Panchen Lama and i found you comments undermining and deeply offensive
china built the wall n has no mexicans but no wall to tibet to keep china out.
robplum: Don't be ridicules rizlared i did not apologies.
Yes you did, you couldn't prove anything I said was a lie, 
PS I never forget
reb56: does china target practice on folks in tibet till they are commies or wiped out?lol.
no reply.
So if it isn't a brown,hispanic or black guy.....
The religion, culture, ethnicity doesn't matter?
The religion, culture, ethnicity doesn't matter?
Just think if everyone’s guns are controlled except for my guns....
Whisper666: So if it isn't a brown,hispanic or black guy.....
The religion, culture, ethnicity doesn't matter?
if ur a citizen its ur country none of that world citizen b/s.The religion, culture, ethnicity doesn't matter?
robplum: I only referred to Gandhi in the first sentence
you concluded saying,
Be careful who you use as examples!!!
The remainder of my expressed view, pertained to Mahayana Buddhist non violent view promoted by Dalai Lama's schools of thought. Which had nothing to do with promoting violence, nothing whatsoever to do with
So yes really these are:
Mahatma Gandhi/Quotes
Where there is love there is life.
Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.
In a gentle way, you can shake the world.
The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will.
A man is but the product of his thoughts; what he thinks, he becomes.
Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's needs, but not every man's greed.
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes.
I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet.
My post raised nothing relating to creating violence, or engaging in violence, defending ones self or any like manner and you concluded I should be careful who i use as example and i am saying you attempted to misconstrue the essence of my contribution to a reduction of gun violence in America something communists Chinese attacking non violence teachings of Dalai Lama constantly engage in. I think because that what the Chinese Communists you openly associate your self with certainly didn't do when they invaded Tibet, they murdered Monks and Nuns, Lamas, including even Panchen Lama and i found you comments undermining and deeply offensive
you concluded saying,
Be careful who you use as examples!!!
The remainder of my expressed view, pertained to Mahayana Buddhist non violent view promoted by Dalai Lama's schools of thought. Which had nothing to do with promoting violence, nothing whatsoever to do with
So yes really these are:
Mahatma Gandhi/Quotes
Where there is love there is life.
Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.
In a gentle way, you can shake the world.
The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will.
A man is but the product of his thoughts; what he thinks, he becomes.
Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's needs, but not every man's greed.
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes.
I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet.
My post raised nothing relating to creating violence, or engaging in violence, defending ones self or any like manner and you concluded I should be careful who i use as example and i am saying you attempted to misconstrue the essence of my contribution to a reduction of gun violence in America something communists Chinese attacking non violence teachings of Dalai Lama constantly engage in. I think because that what the Chinese Communists you openly associate your self with certainly didn't do when they invaded Tibet, they murdered Monks and Nuns, Lamas, including even Panchen Lama and i found you comments undermining and deeply offensive
No one will understand until losing his /her son /daughter
In schools or colleges
And by the way
I know the thing
can't undo freedom of guns trade
Can't control it
It's out of control!
300000000 armed with guns
This is the perfect picture of insanity!
The American dream became a nightmare
In schools or colleges
And by the way
I know the thing
can't undo freedom of guns trade
Can't control it
It's out of control!
300000000 armed with guns
This is the perfect picture of insanity!
The American dream became a nightmare
tell the dems to stop killing our kids,etc.we need lib control.
galrads: Just think if everyone’s guns are controlled except for my guns....
killary likes that.robplum: Don't be ridicules rizlared i did not apologies.
You seem to forget I spent years studying Tibetan teachings.
As past director of a Temple named after the third Panchen Lama I am of course fully aware of the deeply deluded Chinese misunderstandings about the peoples of Tibet's reverence for the teachings of the Buddha.
Now you have displayed your true intention in this thread, an intention to grossly mislead the good folks on this site and in doing so take advantage of OP of this threat. Should be ashamed of yourself rizlared.
By making these further statements clearly designed to deceive our fellow members of this forum, by openly engaging in promoting even more of your Chinese communist propaganda.
Propaganda that since the invasion of Tibet that Chinese have continually directed against the Tibetan people who choose to practice the teachings of Lama Tsongkhapa (1357–1419) that were transmitted to Lama Tsongkhapa by Atisha (Jo-bo rje dPal-ldan A-ti-sha) (982-1054 CE).
The American people need meaningful support not a load of communist crap
what a loony Rob.You seem to forget I spent years studying Tibetan teachings.
As past director of a Temple named after the third Panchen Lama I am of course fully aware of the deeply deluded Chinese misunderstandings about the peoples of Tibet's reverence for the teachings of the Buddha.
Now you have displayed your true intention in this thread, an intention to grossly mislead the good folks on this site and in doing so take advantage of OP of this threat. Should be ashamed of yourself rizlared.
By making these further statements clearly designed to deceive our fellow members of this forum, by openly engaging in promoting even more of your Chinese communist propaganda.
Propaganda that since the invasion of Tibet that Chinese have continually directed against the Tibetan people who choose to practice the teachings of Lama Tsongkhapa (1357–1419) that were transmitted to Lama Tsongkhapa by Atisha (Jo-bo rje dPal-ldan A-ti-sha) (982-1054 CE).
The American people need meaningful support not a load of communist crap
The underlying reason is not gun control, but control. The authorities do not want an armed populous so that they have absolute freedom.
There's lots of evidence, in the UK for example, more people are killed by armed police than are killed by armed criminals. They even murdered the British Quick Draw champion when he got drunk one night and practiced in his garden. You'd have thought they'd know who he was hey? Er, before they shot him that is.
However, is it really a bad thing? I have had guns all my life but I don't hunt, and I must admit I don't even club shoot anymore. The reason being, while I was changing a target the last time I was there, having called 'Regarder' during a lull in the shooting as is customary. I turned around to see a Gendarme playing with my loaded revolver which I had left on its mat at my post. 'it's okay' he said, 'I'm a gendarme.' To which I replied, 'that does not exempt you from club rules, put my weapon down before you kill someone!' His lame response was the he had never seen such a weapon and wanted to look at it. Huh! It's idiots with guns which are the danger!
The hunters here in France are just the same and on one occasion in the summer of 2002 they actually shot me, in my own field while I was out noisily cutting weeds with a back pack weedwacker. The machine itself and the usual safety gear largely protected me fortunately. But if you are the license issuing authority, how can you tell that a person with a clean record is not going to turn out to be an idiot? The other point is that an unimpeded bullet will travel a long way and a high caliber round could end up killing someone a mile or two away if fired from a high point. A couple of years ago we had a 19 year old lad shot in the head while out jogging with his girl on a Sunday.
So, no I don't think gun control is necessarily the solution to these tragedies but it would help! Put it this way, If gun control would save the lives of your partner and two of your children this year, would you support it?
There's lots of evidence, in the UK for example, more people are killed by armed police than are killed by armed criminals. They even murdered the British Quick Draw champion when he got drunk one night and practiced in his garden. You'd have thought they'd know who he was hey? Er, before they shot him that is.
However, is it really a bad thing? I have had guns all my life but I don't hunt, and I must admit I don't even club shoot anymore. The reason being, while I was changing a target the last time I was there, having called 'Regarder' during a lull in the shooting as is customary. I turned around to see a Gendarme playing with my loaded revolver which I had left on its mat at my post. 'it's okay' he said, 'I'm a gendarme.' To which I replied, 'that does not exempt you from club rules, put my weapon down before you kill someone!' His lame response was the he had never seen such a weapon and wanted to look at it. Huh! It's idiots with guns which are the danger!
The hunters here in France are just the same and on one occasion in the summer of 2002 they actually shot me, in my own field while I was out noisily cutting weeds with a back pack weedwacker. The machine itself and the usual safety gear largely protected me fortunately. But if you are the license issuing authority, how can you tell that a person with a clean record is not going to turn out to be an idiot? The other point is that an unimpeded bullet will travel a long way and a high caliber round could end up killing someone a mile or two away if fired from a high point. A couple of years ago we had a 19 year old lad shot in the head while out jogging with his girl on a Sunday.
So, no I don't think gun control is necessarily the solution to these tragedies but it would help! Put it this way, If gun control would save the lives of your partner and two of your children this year, would you support it?
Keepers: I had logged off but after seeing this poll I was forced to partake.
Thank you for being on here Keepers.
"The underlying reason is not gun control, but control. The authorities do not want an armed populous so that they have absolute freedom."
This is the prime reason why our Constitution was created. For our protection from a controlling government so that we can stand up and show them that what they are doing is not good for the people.
Now we can honestly say who are the controllers?
The democrats and the Anti Trumps who want to sink our country.
Thanks Cest.
This is the prime reason why our Constitution was created. For our protection from a controlling government so that we can stand up and show them that what they are doing is not good for the people.
Now we can honestly say who are the controllers?
The democrats and the Anti Trumps who want to sink our country.
Thanks Cest.
lindsyjones: "The underlying reason is not gun control, but control. The authorities do not want an armed populous so that they have absolute freedom."
This is the prime reason why our Constitution was created. For our protection from a controlling government so that we can stand up and show them that what they are doing is not good for the people.
Now we can honestly say who are the controllers?
The democrats and the Anti Trumps who want to sink our country.
Thanks Cest.
De rien jollie fille.This is the prime reason why our Constitution was created. For our protection from a controlling government so that we can stand up and show them that what they are doing is not good for the people.
Now we can honestly say who are the controllers?
The democrats and the Anti Trumps who want to sink our country.
Thanks Cest.
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After they have banned several weapons. The next step is their going to make it almost impossible to purchase any kind of new firearm or any ammo. Not being able to buy ammo means most existing guns will have limited ammo and be considered less of a threat to the government.
Then a complete and total ban.
If your contention is right, then the government who wants to abolish this right are doing it for the exact reason it was created for.
To hell with that kind of government. I would do anything to have my right to own one.