Bringing back the Mental Facilities that were closed during Reagan, agree or disagree? (75)
Did Reagan’s Crazy Mental Health Policies Cause Today’s Homelessness?
By Joel John Roberts | Oct 14, 2013
"Recently, a 34-year-old woman rammed her car into barricades outside the White House while her infant daughter was in the back seat. The police, thinking it was an act of terror, chased her down and shot her to death.
Later, we learned she was actually struggling with mental illness.
This came not long after another 34-year-old, this one a man who heard voices and thought people were out to hurt him, walked into the Washington Navy Yard and gunned down 12 people."
Wow, I only came across this now. What a world.
By Joel John Roberts | Oct 14, 2013
"Recently, a 34-year-old woman rammed her car into barricades outside the White House while her infant daughter was in the back seat. The police, thinking it was an act of terror, chased her down and shot her to death.
Later, we learned she was actually struggling with mental illness.
This came not long after another 34-year-old, this one a man who heard voices and thought people were out to hurt him, walked into the Washington Navy Yard and gunned down 12 people."
Wow, I only came across this now. What a world.
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lindsyjones: What has changed?
Now you have a lot more folks who belong in them.
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I think so too, Harbal..
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I meant to add, during Reagan's Administration.
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lindsyjones: I think so too, Harbal..
Just to be fair, so have we.
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Harbal: Just to be fair, so have we.
Well do you have mental wards? Or do you have a system to take care of them?
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lindsyjones: Well do you have mental wards? Or do you have a system to take care of them?
I don't know. They got rid of the big institutional mental hospitals years ago. I suppose there must be mental wards somewhere. I think they favour what they call "care in the community" these days, I guess it's cheaper. Our mental health system is in crisis, apparently, it's been neglected.
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lindsyjones: I meant to add, during Reagan's Administration.
yes,dems n libs need the care or get rid of their dem/ons,demonuts,lol.------ This poll is Archived ------
reb56: yes,dems n libs need the care or get rid of their dem/ons,demonuts,lol.
Don't Republicans ever suffer mental health issues, reb?
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Lind
In B.C. the provincial government in the eighties decided to cut funding of our mental health facilities...some made the down town east side their home...what do you think happened...many not taking their medications or using other substances then becoming homeless...
It is a sad way of dealing with mental illness...many are not coping with life outside of the safety of those institutions and the staff that support them...
Hosting the Olympics show cased the troubled people from the east side of Vancouver...the poorest address in Canada...
Residential homes and support systems that can help people coping with mental health issues is a must...and recognizing that some cannot cope with life in the community at large...they have been institutionalized for too long...some do not know how to shop, cook or keep a job...
In B.C. the provincial government in the eighties decided to cut funding of our mental health facilities...some made the down town east side their home...what do you think happened...many not taking their medications or using other substances then becoming homeless...
It is a sad way of dealing with mental illness...many are not coping with life outside of the safety of those institutions and the staff that support them...
Hosting the Olympics show cased the troubled people from the east side of Vancouver...the poorest address in Canada...
Residential homes and support systems that can help people coping with mental health issues is a must...and recognizing that some cannot cope with life in the community at large...they have been institutionalized for too long...some do not know how to shop, cook or keep a job...
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Harbal: Don't Republicans ever suffer mental health issues, reb?
This is an illness that has no preference whom it afflicts Harbal..
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loulou77: Lind
In B.C. the provincial government in the eighties decided to cut funding of our mental health facilities...some made the down town east side their home...what do you think happened...many not taking their medications or using other substances then becoming homeless...
It is a sad way of dealing with mental illness...many are not coping with life outside of the safety of those institutions and the staff that support them...
Hosting the Olympics show cased the troubled people from the east side of Vancouver...the poorest address in Canada...
Residential homes and support systems that can help people coping with mental health issues is a must...and recognizing that some cannot cope with life in the community at large...they have been institutionalized for too long...some do not know how to shop, cook or keep a job...
In B.C. the provincial government in the eighties decided to cut funding of our mental health facilities...some made the down town east side their home...what do you think happened...many not taking their medications or using other substances then becoming homeless...
It is a sad way of dealing with mental illness...many are not coping with life outside of the safety of those institutions and the staff that support them...
Hosting the Olympics show cased the troubled people from the east side of Vancouver...the poorest address in Canada...
Residential homes and support systems that can help people coping with mental health issues is a must...and recognizing that some cannot cope with life in the community at large...they have been institutionalized for too long...some do not know how to shop, cook or keep a job...
How do you cope with them Lou, I meant the government. Here in our State, I am so aware of the fact that they are left to their own relatives. Very sad.
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Lind
Many are homeless...drug addicted...they end up in the hospital and then sent to a shelter...after recovery...some live in assisted living homes but many are too damaged to be able to live with others...there are low income housing being built but that services the ones that can manage on their own...but at least the situation is getting some press...and people are concerned...
Many are homeless...drug addicted...they end up in the hospital and then sent to a shelter...after recovery...some live in assisted living homes but many are too damaged to be able to live with others...there are low income housing being built but that services the ones that can manage on their own...but at least the situation is getting some press...and people are concerned...
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The cheapest thing would be to just buy them all a laptop and sign them up to CS.
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Miwagi: The cheapest thing would be to just buy them all a laptop and sign them up to CS.
I hope you have more compassion...
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Ignoring the problem is both palatable and cheap... for a bit. But eventually you have to take responsibility in some way, a ghoulishly cheap one I expect.
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loulou77: Lind
Many are homeless...drug addicted...they end up in the hospital and then sent to a shelter...after recovery...some live in assisted living homes but many are too damaged to be able to live with others...there are low income housing being built but that services the ones that can manage on their own...but at least the situation is getting some press...and people are concerned...
Many are homeless...drug addicted...they end up in the hospital and then sent to a shelter...after recovery...some live in assisted living homes but many are too damaged to be able to live with others...there are low income housing being built but that services the ones that can manage on their own...but at least the situation is getting some press...and people are concerned...
These are important issues that need to be addressed really and get some funding from both the State and Fed and to me Reagan just made an easy excuse in order to avoid the expenses. Terrible. Here in the US we have to bring those services back.
Like you said, so many of them are way too far gone to be able to fend for themselves, who will take care of them then?
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Not so in Ohio USA. The real mentally challenged are well looked after. Beginning with State Governor Gilligan in the early 70s, we’ve taken extra steps to protect them from bodily harm such as requiring they wear football helmets while they play on swing sets and jungle Jim’s and they must at least wear thongs while in the cafeterias or other assembly location. 
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Harbal: Don't Republicans ever suffer mental health issues, reb?
yes its dems n libs,they shoot us n they say gun control/stop peace,the levi will break someday,we are taking notes.------ This poll is Archived ------
galrads: Not so in Ohio USA. The real mentally challenged are well looked after. Beginning with State Governor Gilligan in the early 70s, we’ve taken extra steps to protect them from bodily harm such as requiring they wear football helmets while they play on swing sets and jungle Jim’s and they must at least wear thongs while in the cafeterias or other assembly location.
Damn you should take that up with your religious institution. Ohio might just have an answer to moral and spiritual obligations of all sorts.
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Brilliant Ralphy, bring back frontal lobotomy.
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Holy Phrack,Ralphy broke Godwin's Law!
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Miwagi: Brilliant Ralphy, bring back frontal lobotomy.
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They stuck them in 1/2 way houses, then when they don't take their meds or wander off, who watches over them? A1/2 way house is NOT a lock down, they are free to go and do what they want! That would make the closing of these places almost 40 years ago, but these people today are much younger now, so who's watching after or taking care of them? Can you actually FORCE someone to get treatment, or do they even know if they are mentally ill until they do something?
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Miwagi: Brilliant Ralphy, bring back frontal lobotomy.
Dont put your lies in my mouth. I never said anything like that. The movie was one reason those institutions were removed.
I was citing the dreadful history of caring in this country for the mentally ill.
Maybe you can make another joke about giving them laptops and going online???
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Raf
Ignore the bad actors...your comment regarding mental institutions is factual and the movie highlighted the gross negligence of such places...
Not unlike the residential schools set up to rid our first nations people of their cultural practices here in Canada...
Ignore the bad actors...your comment regarding mental institutions is factual and the movie highlighted the gross negligence of such places...
Not unlike the residential schools set up to rid our first nations people of their cultural practices here in Canada...
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Thanks Loulou ! Ive done volunteer work for decades in that area and the history of some the institutions in U.S. is as evil as it gets, even after the discovery of Haldol.
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raphael119: Thanks Loulou ! Ive done volunteer work for decades in that area and the history of some the institutions in U.S. is as evil as it gets, even after the discovery of Haldol.
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So you can dish it out but you can't take it. You're the guy who comes up with titles like the "NRA kills children for profit", so don't lecture me. All the crazy stuff that get said on this site and you guys act like people take your advice seriously.
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loulou77: Raf
Ignore the bad actors...your comment regarding mental institutions is factual and the movie highlighted the gross negligence of such places...
Not unlike the residential schools set up to rid our first nations people of their cultural practices here in Canada...
Ignore the bad actors...your comment regarding mental institutions is factual and the movie highlighted the gross negligence of such places...
Not unlike the residential schools set up to rid our first nations people of their cultural practices here in Canada...
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Bringing back the Mental Facilities that were closed during Reagan, agree or disagree?(Vote Below)
What has changed? Good or bad.