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Mar 25, 2018 2:09 PM CSTWould the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio, USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts

Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?(Vote Below)

- (To Vote: select an option above, then press this button)
Yes, let everyone solve their own issues
39
72%
No, someone has to spread goodwill in this world
7
13%
Other
8
15%
Total Votes
54
This is a poll but please contribute opinions.


popcorn
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Mar 25, 2018 2:13 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
agree why are we over there,etc.!
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Mar 25, 2018 2:18 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
Yes, let everyone solve their own issues
thumbs up

With their own damn money too.
Which reminds me

#ShowTheMoneyMaMerkel professor
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Mar 25, 2018 2:23 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
CossackCat: Yes, let everyone solve their own issues


With their own damn money too.
Which reminds me

#ShowTheMoneyMaMerkel


I agree. The USA should have stopped sacrificing our sons and daughters after WWII for others who don’t respect us or care or don’t care to understand.

Let there be peace in the world but not at our children’s expense.



wave
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Mar 25, 2018 2:35 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
galrads: I agree. The USA should have stopped sacrificing our sons and daughters after WWII for others who don’t respect us or care or don’t care to understand.

Let there be peace in the world but not at our children’s expense.
agree!
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Mar 25, 2018 3:43 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
galrads: I agree. The USA should have stopped sacrificing our sons and daughters after WWII for others who don’t respect us or care or don’t care to understand.

Let there be peace in the world but not at our children’s expense.
Americans are fed up with playing Mommy and Daddy and Good cop/Bad cop.
They love to hate and hate to love us. Okay then.. #ShowMeTheMoney

France helped us in the revolution and I think Finland is the only one who paid us back.

We should keep them... comfort
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Mar 25, 2018 4:11 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
So far we have a bunch of Americans talking about the sacrifices they have made for others?

Step back a minute - what about the millions of people who have died in all of the conflicts overtly and covertly created by the US Government since WW2 ?

What about the actuality that even WW2 could never have been commenced had it not been fro covert funding by US Industrialist such as Ford, Sloane, Bush and many more.

You've all fallen in love with a sanitised and Hollywood glorified notion that you're always the goodies?

Go back and read President Eissenhowers 'farewell Address' to the nation at the end of his presidency.

He very clearly warned against allowing the Industrial Military Complex getting out of control.

He also warned against the dangers of becoming embroiled in the affairs of other nations 'even if invited'.

One cannot be at all surprised that successive US Governments have failed to listen to Russia and China over the last 20 years when they did not even listen to one of their own who spoke so clearly on 20 Jan 1961

As we peer into society's future, we – you and I, and our government – must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering for our own ease and convenience the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry he said... yet Charlotte Iserbyt Thompson saw need to write "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" to warn you all of what was happening 20 years ago ... y'all didn't pay heed.

You're complaining that globally 'nobody loves you much anymore' but your Govt is causing that by bullying, murdering, destroying countries, appointing proxies like Osama Bin Laden, puppets such as Saddam Hussein and then betraying them?

Let's talk about Libya ... the most advanced north african nation bombed to bits because Clinton hated Gadaffi ...

Out of control fellas, and you're gonna need all the guns you can get before it turns inwards on you all .
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Mar 25, 2018 4:12 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
The UK paid back of the War Debt ... and then some.
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Mar 25, 2018 4:18 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
Mickmjb
MickmjbMickmjbMansfield, Nottinghamshire, England UK2 Threads 245 Posts
CossackCat: Americans are fed up with playing Mommy and Daddy and Good cop/Bad cop.
They love to hate and hate to love us. Okay then.. #ShowMeTheMoney

France helped us in the revolution and I think Finland is the only one who paid us back.

We should keep them...


The UK only finished paying the USA for Ww2 a few years ago...I think you need to take into account the billions of $$$ worth of arms you sell to the world too! South Korea, and Japan recently..All the UKs nuclear bombs are due to be renewed soon....
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Mar 25, 2018 4:19 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
Look out the're spreading good will laugh
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Mar 25, 2018 4:21 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
* they're mumbling
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Mar 25, 2018 4:37 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
As any Pakistani will tell you when they look at the skies and see another Goodwill Drone

And FFS ... they're not even officially AT WAR with Pakistan

New Jingle to be played from missiles ...

" And a Very Merry Christmas to the people of <insertname> brought to you by your good friends at Raytheon, General Dynamics, LockheedMartin and Blackwater (under whatever cuddly name they're using this week) "

It's nothing short of the worst outcomes that Eissenhower warned of in 1961 and which Orwell predicted in 1948

teddybear
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Mar 25, 2018 4:56 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
HexagonKeySet: The UK paid back of the War Debt ... and then some.



I believe that POTUS Carter forgave a lot of the UKs war debt to the USA.

beer
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Mar 25, 2018 5:03 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
So, how did you vote in this poll? wave


HexagonKeySet: So far we have a bunch of Americans talking about the sacrifices they have made for others?

Step back a minute - what about the millions of people who have died in all of the conflicts overtly and covertly created by the US Government since WW2 ?

What about the actuality that even WW2 could never have been commenced had it not been fro covert funding by US Industrialist such as Ford, Sloane, Bush and many more.

You've all fallen in love with a sanitised and Hollywood glorified notion that you're always the goodies?

Go back and read President Eissenhowers 'farewell Address' to the nation at the end of his presidency.

He very clearly warned against allowing the Industrial Military Complex getting out of control.

He also warned against the dangers of becoming embroiled in the affairs of other nations 'even if invited'.

One cannot be at all surprised that successive US Governments have failed to listen to Russia and China over the last 20 years when they did not even listen to one of their own who spoke so clearly on 20 Jan 1961

As we peer into society's future, we – you and I, and our government – must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering for our own ease and convenience the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry he said... yet Charlotte Iserbyt Thompson saw need to write "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" to warn you all of what was happening 20 years ago ... y'all didn't pay heed.

You're complaining that globally 'nobody loves you much anymore' but your Govt is causing that by bullying, murdering, destroying countries, appointing proxies like Osama Bin Laden, puppets such as Saddam Hussein and then betraying them?

Let's talk about Libya ... the most advanced north african nation bombed to bits because Clinton hated Gadaffi ...

Out of control fellas, and you're gonna need all the guns you can get before it turns inwards on you all .
wave
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Mar 25, 2018 5:19 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
Like any vote, one expects privacy as to choice ... however

I'm not ashamed to say what I think - That is that the USA, in the post Eisenhower years, have involved themselves far too much in the affairs of other nations and that that has been a grave mistake Gal.

'Local conflicts' ought to be solved by the people involved 'at a local level' and not used by ANY other nation as a profit opportunity (supplying weapons) nor as a political opportunity (to hold sway in a region and to impose a different way of life on those people)

Pre LBJ the 'American Dream' was largely achievable and indeed being achieved by, dare I say, the majority of Americans ? Even though there was still racial inequality the situation was, albeit slowly improving ... and that's as much as I'll say, beyond it takes time to sway a culture in much the same way as takes vast distances to turn a giant seagoing oil tanker.

Since then though the American Dream really seems to have faded ... those who 'have' are fewer and those who have not are massivelly increasing.

Let me ask you, would there be so much decaying infrastructure in the states if even 50% of your last 4 decades of military expenditure had been spent at home?

How about healthcare?

How about housing ?

How about education ?

How about ... any number of other pressing social issues ?
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Mar 25, 2018 5:40 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
Be peaceful alright Raddy , we would all have our mouths shut working for the likes of Stalin or Chairman Mao .
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Mar 25, 2018 5:50 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
HexagonKeySet: Like any vote, one expects privacy as to choice ... however

I'm not ashamed to say what I think - That is that the USA, in the post Eisenhower years, have involved themselves far too much in the affairs of other nations and that that has been a grave mistake Gal.

'Local conflicts' ought to be solved by the people involved 'at a local level' and not used by ANY other nation as a profit opportunity (supplying weapons) nor as a political opportunity (to hold sway in a region and to impose a different way of life on those people)

Pre LBJ the 'American Dream' was largely achievable and indeed being achieved by, dare I say, the majority of Americans ? Even though there was still racial inequality the situation was, albeit slowly improving ... and that's as much as I'll say, beyond it takes time to sway a culture in much the same way as takes vast distances to turn a giant seagoing oil tanker.

Since then though the American Dream really seems to have faded ... those who 'have' are fewer and those who have not are massivelly increasing.

Let me ask you, would there be so much decaying infrastructure in the states if even 50% of your last 4 decades of military expenditure had been spent at home?

How about healthcare?

How about housing ?

How about education ?

How about ... any number of other pressing social issues ?


Housing bs but I agree with military funding should be spent better on education, health AND infrastructure.... what do you mean by housing?
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Mar 25, 2018 5:52 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
Search : FENTANYL INJURIES TO OFFICERS

Police officer overdoses after brushing fentanyl powder off his uniform ...

May 16, 2017 - Here's a frightening reminder of the dangers of fentanyl, a powerful opioid that can be lethal even in tiny amounts.

3 Baltimore County police officers treated for fentanyl exposure ...

Dec 22, 2017 - Three Baltimore County police officers were treated and released from the hospital after they were exposed to fentanyl, prompting the evacuation of the Woodlawn precinct Thursday night, the department said. ... The Baltimore County Fire Department’s hazardous materials team ...

Philadelphia Officers, Agent Sent to Hospital After Responding to ...

Sep 1, 2017 - Narcan was used on three Philadelphia police officers and an agent with the state's attorney general's office after they suffered possible exposure to Fentanyl at a home in the Summerdale section during a...

18 SWAT officers hospitalized after possible exposure to fentanyl ...

Aug 9, 2017 - Last Updated Aug 9, 2017 11:53 PM EDT. More than a dozen SWAT team officers were hospitalized Wednesday after agents raided a home in Pittsburgh, CBS Pittsburgh reports. Around 6 a.m., several agencies began executing federal search warrants at three homes. At one of the locations, SWAT team ...

'A huge problem': Correctional officers in Alberta hospitalized after ...

Aug 8, 2017 - Several correctional officers in Alberta have been hospitalized after accidental exposure to fentanyl during searches. Their union is concerned the next ... How do we protect the inmates, how do we protect the Canadian public without us being seriously injured or worse?" asked DeBack, who said it's not ...

Edmonton police officers sent to hospital after fentanyl investigation ...

Nov 21, 2017 - Two Edmonton police officers fell ill after investigating a fentanyl seizure this week, but have since returned to work.

Toronto police criticized for not disclosing drug squad officer's fentanyl ...

Nov 16, 2017 - Toronto police issued a statement Thursday afternoon saying a constable with the drug squad died of a fentanyl overdose back in April.

Fentanyl Is So Deadly That It's Changing How First Responders Do ...

May 15, 2017 - A puff of fentanyl from closing a plastic bag is enough to send a full-grown man to the emergency room, as a police officer from New Jersey described in a Drug Enforcement Agency video last fall. The DEA made the video as part of an official warning to law enforcement about the dangers of handling ...


Note esp "A puff of powder" or " dusting powder from a uniform enough to send officer to ER ..."

Note also the UK and USA BOTH have a major problem with opioid overuse ... and that it's played down in the UK

Note again : The UK health service is in a mess and Theresa May PM also has a multitude of other problems to deal with. Having to admit that Skripals is yet another crisis in the UK would not exactly be helpful just now eh?

So, blame the Russians ... and be very sure NOT TO OFFER ANY EVIDENCE
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Mar 25, 2018 5:52 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
epirb: Be peaceful alright Raddy , we would all have our mouths shut working for the likes of Stalin or Chairman Mao .


So many people don’t have any idea how that is the truth and so many of the western nations especially take for granted whatever measure of peace they perceive in this world.
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Mar 25, 2018 6:03 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
I still have one fentynal patch remaining at home following a hospital procedure where they used a laser to blast apart some of my kidney stones.

They slapped two fentynal patches on my back before the hospital crew even started an iv for this procedure. There’s nothing like the pain from a spazzed ureter.

wave

Search : FENTANYL INJURIES TO OFFICERS

Police officer overdoses after brushing fentanyl powder off his uniform ...

May 16, 2017 - Here's a frightening reminder of the dangers of fentanyl, a powerful opioid that can be lethal even in tiny amounts.

3 Baltimore County police officers treated for fentanyl exposure ...

Dec 22, 2017 - Three Baltimore County police officers were treated and released from the hospital after they were exposed to fentanyl, prompting the evacuation of the Woodlawn precinct Thursday night, the department said. ... The Baltimore County Fire Department’s hazardous materials team ...

Philadelphia Officers, Agent Sent to Hospital After Responding to ...

Sep 1, 2017 - Narcan was used on three Philadelphia police officers and an agent with the state's attorney general's office after they suffered possible exposure to Fentanyl at a home in the Summerdale section during a...

18 SWAT officers hospitalized after possible exposure to fentanyl ...

Aug 9, 2017 - Last Updated Aug 9, 2017 11:53 PM EDT. More than a dozen SWAT team officers were hospitalized Wednesday after agents raided a home in Pittsburgh, CBS Pittsburgh reports. Around 6 a.m., several agencies began executing federal search warrants at three homes. At one of the locations, SWAT team ...

'A huge problem': Correctional officers in Alberta hospitalized after ...

Aug 8, 2017 - Several correctional officers in Alberta have been hospitalized after accidental exposure to fentanyl during searches. Their union is concerned the next ... How do we protect the inmates, how do we protect the Canadian public without us being seriously injured or worse?" asked DeBack, who said it's not ...

Edmonton police officers sent to hospital after fentanyl investigation ...

Nov 21, 2017 - Two Edmonton police officers fell ill after investigating a fentanyl seizure this week, but have since returned to work.

Toronto police criticized for not disclosing drug squad officer's fentanyl ...

Nov 16, 2017 - Toronto police issued a statement Thursday afternoon saying a constable with the drug squad died of a fentanyl overdose back in April.

Fentanyl Is So Deadly That It's Changing How First Responders Do ...

May 15, 2017 - A puff of fentanyl from closing a plastic bag is enough to send a full-grown man to the emergency room, as a police officer from New Jersey described in a Drug Enforcement Agency video last fall. The DEA made the video as part of an official warning to law enforcement about the dangers of handling ...


Note esp "A puff of powder" or " dusting powder from a uniform enough to send officer to ER ..."

Note again : The UK health service is in a mess and Theresa May PM also has a multitude of other problems to deal with. Having to admit that Skripals is yet another crisis in the UK would not exactly be helpful just now eh?

So, blame the
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Mar 25, 2018 6:33 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
I hate to admit that someone I don't get well along with like Hexy, made some valid points.
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Mar 25, 2018 6:38 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
epirb: Be peaceful alright Raddy , we would all have our mouths shut working for the likes of Stalin or Chairman Mao .
cheers We better find a way to unite patriots; rather than look for what dividing us - commorates! laugh
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Mar 25, 2018 7:26 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
Jim_Bob
Jim_BobJim_BobCentral Pa, Pennsylvania USA17 Posts
History has shown that the world needs "sheriffs" to maintain order. In ancient times it was Greece and Rome. Then it was England and France (and sometimes Spain). Now it is the US and Russia and China.

Without sheriffs, countries would be bickering and fighting even more than they do now. Without one or two strong countries, there would be less "order" in the world. If the US isolated itself from the worlds' issues, there would be more conflict not less. It is the price we pay for being a world power.
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Mar 25, 2018 10:58 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
galrads: Housing bs but I agree with military funding should be spent better on education, health AND infrastructure.... what do you mean by housing?


Dictionary : Housing - homes, houses, places of residence, buildings; accommodation, living quarters; formaldwellings, dwelling places, habitations, abodes, domiciles

" In 2017, over 553,000 Americans were homeless with one out of every five of them living in New York City or Los Angeles. 65 percent of the country's homeless population was provided with emergency shelter, according to a report from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.The largest number of homeless people was recorded in New York City (76,501), with Los Angeles in second place (55,188)."



That takes no account of those living in substandard housing, shabby trailer parks and their cars, vans and motorhomes...

So, yes ... housing is not BS imo
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Mar 25, 2018 11:10 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
Jim_Bob: History has shown that the world needs "sheriffs" to maintain order. In ancient times it was Greece and Rome. Then it was England and France (and sometimes Spain). Now it is the US and Russia and China.
Without sheriffs, countries would be bickering and fighting even more than they do now. Without one or two strong countries, there would be less "order" in the world. If the US isolated itself from the worlds' issues, there would be more conflict not less. It is the price we pay for being a world power.



Nonsense - the first of those nations created 'empires' by forcing their rule on other nations in the periods of their 'global supremacy' and over time ALL of them failed ... such is the nature of empire building - works for a while if the 'Emperor is wise' but falls apart or is 'self destructed' when the wisdom passes.

The US Empire is different - it was built using 'dark strategies' ie having others fight the wars and backing (often) both sides with armaments and / or hiring mercenaries as proxies to do their dirty work ... contractors like Blackwater (under whatever pretty corporate name they use now) and others.

So, what if your neighbours are bickering do you strep in and get the whole town involved?

That's what the US Govt have done ... they stir up 'local fights' and then demand that their international partners get involved and bear some of the costs.

What about the price those nations pay where you go in to 'impose peace' huh ?

How many dead in Vietnam

How many dead in former Yugoslavia

How many dead in Afghanistan

How many dead in Iraq

How many dead in Syria

How many dead in Columbia and all the other places you went in to 'solve problems' ?

And then how many trillions have the US charged them for rebuilding that which they wrecked by bombing ... it's a very profitable game ... just so long as you keep The Game in other people's countries

sigh

As for Russia and China ... fire away, lets see the list of nations they have breached the sovereignty of since WW2

Be imaginative on that one ... because you'll have to!




teddybear
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Mar 25, 2018 11:17 PM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
galrads: Hexy, I think you’ve been chewing your FENTANYL.


That's the sort of moronic response I've come to expect from raph and others of the Brain Dead Class.

You - ought to be properly ashamed of yourself.

The remark screams to the entire world not only that you're completely ignorant concerning Fentanyl.

That's despite the fact that it kills and / or injures hundreds of US police officers and emergency responders each year and

Given I've provided links to that widely reported fact, it demonstrates your unwillingness to engage with reality, to deal with and consider actual facts when they are placed in front of you.

Not to mention your reliance on Hollywood glamour rather than reading some reliable sources for your historical data ...

teddybear
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Mar 26, 2018 2:53 AM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
That's a difficult question to answer. On the one hand you spread the system of free trade and nations trading takes the place of nations fighting, but on the other hand you spread your personality and nobody loses the battle of hearts and minds like Americans can. Materially good for the world but spiritually dead the problem is that the rest of the world isn't anti-social enough for American rule, it's too earthy and authentic for plastic fantastic.
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Mar 26, 2018 3:45 AM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
Yes, the world would be a much nicer place if everyone, especially giants like USA, China, Russia, minded their own business of which there’s plenty to mind. Hexagon has listed the key points as education, health care, wealth distribution, environmental disasters. (As example you can look at Scandinavian countries: small, comfortable to live in and, for the most, concerned with their own fare.)

Though, I’m afraid, it’s not going to happen. Through the history of hominids, there always was a big baboon with a stick or a stone or nuclear weapon and “righteous” cause to lead and a bunch smaller brainwashed baboons, aching to be led. Where? That’s another question.
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Mar 26, 2018 3:52 AM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
CossackCat: Americans are fed up with playing Mommy and Daddy and Good cop/Bad cop.
They love to hate and hate to love us. Okay then.. #ShowMeTheMoney

France helped us in the revolution and I think Finland is the only one who paid us back.

We should keep them...
agree!
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Mar 26, 2018 3:57 AM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
HexagonKeySet: So far we have a bunch of Americans talking about the sacrifices they have made for others?

Step back a minute - what about the millions of people who have died in all of the conflicts overtly and covertly created by the US Government since WW2 ?

What about the actuality that even WW2 could never have been commenced had it not been fro covert funding by US Industrialist such as Ford, Sloane, Bush and many more.

You've all fallen in love with a sanitised and Hollywood glorified notion that you're always the goodies?

Go back and read President Eissenhowers 'farewell Address' to the nation at the end of his presidency.

He very clearly warned against allowing the Industrial Military Complex getting out of control.

He also warned against the dangers of becoming embroiled in the affairs of other nations 'even if invited'.

One cannot be at all surprised that successive US Governments have failed to listen to Russia and China over the last 20 years when they did not even listen to one of their own who spoke so clearly on 20 Jan 1961

As we peer into society's future, we – you and I, and our government – must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering for our own ease and convenience the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry he said... yet Charlotte Iserbyt Thompson saw need to write "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" to warn you all of what was happening 20 years ago ... y'all didn't pay heed.

You're complaining that globally 'nobody loves you much anymore' but your Govt is causing that by bullying, murdering, destroying countries, appointing proxies like Osama Bin Laden, puppets such as Saddam Hussein and then betraying them?

Let's talk about Libya ... the most advanced north african nation bombed to bits because Clinton hated Gadaffi ...

Out of control fellas, and you're gonna need all the guns you can get before it turns inwards on you all .
dont blame us on commie killary n commoncore,etc.that qatar pushed by payola n deep state killary n gang stole libyas gold n stole our money for the NWO.
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Mar 26, 2018 6:24 AM CST Would the World be more peaceful without as much of the USA throughout it?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
reb56: dont blame us on commie killary n commoncore,etc.that qatar pushed by payola n deep state killary n gang stole libyas gold n stole our money for the NWO.


Not 'blaming you three' at all, leastways not personally ... but it's a matter of recorded historical fact that Eisenhower DID warn the American people very clearly and 'You The People' did not heed those warnings ...

Killary was not, has not and probably even never will be held to account ... OK, tell me who's responsible for THAT state of affairs?

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