Hello Bodey, old friend! I see you have a new one. Give him a cwtch from me, eh?
I'm not sure I know what strong, or weak mindedness is, or whether they're concepts which necessarily correlate with faith. Does it matter what a person's state of mind is with respect to faith?
The original post just struck me as a shot in the foot sort of an argument.
jac_the_gripper: Hello Bodey, old friend! I see you have a new one. Give him a cwtch from me, eh?
I'm not sure I know what strong, or weak mindedness is, or whether they're concepts which necessarily correlate with faith. Does it matter what a person's state of mind is with respect to faith?
The original post just struck me as a shot in the foot sort of an argument.
jac_the_gripper: Yeah, I'm going incognito John, in the hope that Lee Charming won't recognise me. I'm after his real man sausage for my lesbian plaything, you see.
Well you're in luck there , he's the submissive one !!
jac_the_gripper: Yeah, I'm going incognito John, in the hope that Lee Charming won't recognise me. I'm after his real man sausage for my lesbian plaything, you see.
jac_the_gripper: A new friend is never a replacement, but I hear ya Bodey. I'm still houndless myself.
What you said implies to me that a babbling fool can't have true faith - need there be a pecking order?
Babbling, or sane, fool, or genius, of faith of any kind, or none, kind, or unkind...most of us are many things and all of us are human.
Even the hounds.
I'm talking about faith on an emotional level not faith in the sense of believing something to be true even if it can't be rationally demonstrated. The sanscrit word for faith is shraddha, which also means confidence or devotion. It's confidence in oneself and inner thoughts, also devotion to good actions. Good meaning to cause no harm or distress to others. Faith of this kind will bring joy to yourself and those around you.
BTW, I'm just outside Haverfordwest at the moment.
Well, I have just found this thread which is too long to read every post. To me it appears that you are all discussing "Nothing" .If you can not see it, smell it, touch it, taste it, hear it, feel it, detect it with instruments / devices, then it doesn't exist. All the manifestations that we are aware of are those of nature and the factors involved in the results are innumerable. All the other "Stuff" you connect with it are creations of your mind as a result of conditioning or spontaneous imagination. "Faith" is something you have in your mind for which there are no supporting "facts" Stalin said "Religion is another form of politics and I don't need competition". So under his rule steps were taken to reduce the "Competition". Carl Marx said "Religion is the opium of the masses." The religious "Disciples" are simply "Pushers". Get you hooked and then you are putty. In the world today, the greatest motivator of war, mass murder, conflict, is religion. This is a great thread that can go on forever! A debate about something that can not be verified!
Worldwanderer: Well, I have just found this thread which is too long to read every post. To me it appears that you are all discussing "Nothing" .If you can not see it, smell it, touch it, taste it, hear it, feel it, detect it with instruments / devices, then it doesn't exist. All the manifestations that we are aware of are those of nature and the factors involved in the results are innumerable. All the other "Stuff" you connect with it are creations of your mind as a result of conditioning or spontaneous imagination. "Faith" is something you have in your mind for which there are no supporting "facts" Stalin said "Religion is another form of politics and I don't need competition". So under his rule steps were taken to reduce the "Competition". Carl Marx said "Religion is the opium of the masses." The religious "Disciples" are simply "Pushers". Get you hooked and then you are putty. In the world today, the greatest motivator of war, mass murder, conflict, is religion. This is a great thread that can go on forever! A debate about something that can not be verified!
It is all about faith... Do you think we are on a roundabout whose only function is to rotate?
Worldwanderer: Well, I have just found this thread which is too long to read every post. To me it appears that you are all discussing "Nothing" .If you can not see it, smell it, touch it, taste it, hear it, feel it, detect it with instruments / devices, then it doesn't exist. All the manifestations that we are aware of are those of nature and the factors involved in the results are innumerable. All the other "Stuff" you connect with it are creations of your mind as a result of conditioning or spontaneous imagination. "Faith" is something you have in your mind for which there are no supporting "facts" Stalin said "Religion is another form of politics and I don't need competition". So under his rule steps were taken to reduce the "Competition". Carl Marx said "Religion is the opium of the masses." The religious "Disciples" are simply "Pushers". Get you hooked and then you are putty In the world today, the greatest motivator of war, mass murder, conflict, is religion. This is a great thread that can go on forever! A debate about something that can not be verified!
I believe it quite the opposite. It's the conditioning that keeps a person from the awarness of that which can't be seen, touched, felt or smelled. It has to be experienced in a way beyond our rational thoughts. True faith is something you experience, not measure.
AlecSmart: Oh no, the Christians are gathering. Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of CS, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.
ignore the other trolls Mr Troll they are nowt but fools & as one of your former students I can honestly say that not believing made you no worse of a person than those self confessed Christians who speak with filthy mocking words & make fools of themselves!
A belief is a personal thing & should remain so personally I am one of less than 10,000 who truly have found Yhvh & attend the Marriage feast of Jesus & unless I sin badly I have eternal life in other words you could strife me with 500 rounds from a machine gun & it wouldn't kill me it would blardy well hurt though. Ignore the like of Ms Jones of the filthy 'Christian' faith………….. I wonder if Jesus ever called anyone a moron???????
Worldwanderer: Well, I have just found this thread which is too long to read every post. To me it appears that you are all discussing "Nothing" .If you can not see it, smell it, touch it, taste it, hear it, feel it, detect it with instruments / devices, then it doesn't exist. All the manifestations that we are aware of are those of nature and the factors involved in the results are innumerable. All the other "Stuff" you connect with it are creations of your mind as a result of conditioning or spontaneous imagination. "Faith" is something you have in your mind for which there are no supporting "facts" Stalin said "Religion is another form of politics and I don't need competition". So under his rule steps were taken to reduce the "Competition". Carl Marx said "Religion is the opium of the masses." The religious "Disciples" are simply "Pushers". Get you hooked and then you are putty. In the world today, the greatest motivator of war, mass murder, conflict, is religion. This is a great thread that can go on forever! A debate about something that can not be verified!
yep,and then Old Charley went ahead,took the worst parts of Religion,and created one that is infinitely more destructive to the Human Mind than any religious "Philosophers" ever managed before him!
i must admit i get worried when people ,, with myths start preaching.......how they can SEE the wind ////// mermaids on rocks.....//////the tooth fairy....//////.
SHAWNTHOR: You sound like you're the belligerent type, hard to get along with. My poll, if you don't like it stay off it! Since you list yourself agnostic, I'm somewhat a little surprise that you even care to post on this poll since agnostics don't care whether there's a God or not. I expect this from atheist types however. But then you just come off as a hateful woman! Again, don't like it, go to something you do like!
strangely enough that sounds just like Houston/Leenotso & a good few others!!! GET OFF MY THREAD!!!!!
You didn't give an option for those who don't have a religious persuasion, but who do respect the rights of others to have one of their own... I can't in all good conscience believe in something that neither I, nor others can prove, that doesn't make me wrong or right, it just means I've exercised my right to make an informed choice, based on evedence that allignes with my thinking... So no, "religion is not for the weak, and atheism is not for the strong, they are just architypes for an ecumenical discussion Ted"...
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I'm not sure I know what strong, or weak mindedness is, or whether they're concepts which necessarily correlate with faith. Does it matter what a person's state of mind is with respect to faith?
The original post just struck me as a shot in the foot sort of an argument.