Is this a narrative, that feminist use to keep women slaving away in the work place? Traditionally a man did not care, what a woman did for a living, cause she already had a job as a home make, a mother and a grateful with to her loving hardworking husband...
What would a man say to his wife? relax, cause I'm going to bring home the bacon honey...we will be together forever and our family dreams will come true..we are a team and a solid family unit...we can take on the world together...
Is this a narrative, that feminists use to keep women slaving away in the work place? Traditionally a man did not care, what a woman did for a living, cause most married women...already had a job as a home maker, a mother, grateful to be with her loving, hardworking, husband and father to her children.
What would a man say to his wife? relax, cause I'm going to bring home the bacon honey...we will be together forever, our family dreams will come true, we are a team, a solid family unit and we can take on the world together... edited and improved
Are you ever going to stop telling women how to live, Lee? It's not like they are going to take any notice of you. Do you think they are going to change their behaviour just to make you feel secure?
smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa3,651 posts
"What would a man say to his wife? relax, cause I'm going to bring home the bacon honey...we will be together forever and our family dreams will come true..we are a team and a solid family unit...we can take on the world together..."
If a man said this to most women, she will tell him that the world has changed. Even though most women would prefer to sit at home and be the homemaker, it is just not financially possible in today's day and age, except obviously if the guy earns a very substantial salary, or had inherited a substantial amount, to be able to provide for a reasonable household, of a wife and children (how many - at least 2), and animals, in a house with a garden, and at least two motor vehicles. That is the lowest expectancy. If the man can provide the above, then by all means, the women can leisurely stay at home, and be the home maker!
To the second paragraph in your post Lee in this day and age not on your life.Today's women as I've seen and witnessed usually have a job,kids and homes of their own long before they choose to meet a man.
Not many marriages last forever cause in my case my husband passed away and we weren't even married past 30 years.Also take a look at the divorce rates.
Now to your original thread question. When you are getting to know someone. personal questions that can be asked without crossing any lines. Where were you born? Where did you go to school? Do you have any brothers or sisters? Are you married? What do (did) your parents do? What do you like in life? What do you do for a living?
I would think they would have discussed this befre they got married . If she turns out to be a high flyer it couid be a deal breaker, not necessarily because she may be earning more money, but her friends would be different and her interests may change. You might say this would not matter, but in the UK it does. It is my opinion this may drive a wedge between them. JMO
It is important...It seems to be one of the first questions men ask you... It's good to have a job, even better if it's a good job... But at the end of the day very few men are happy and proud to have a woman whose job is much better than theirs...
pKrema: It is important...It seems to be one of the first questions men ask you... It's good to have a job, even better if it's a good job... But at the end of the day very few men are happy and proud to have a woman whose job is much better than theirs...
He should be asking your name first and stop looking at your body...but some men can't The dating process is a bit like tom and jerry...jerry plays hard to get and tom keeps on trying to catch jerry...most of the time he won't catch her, but that's cause he don't know the rules anymore and the goal posts keep on moving
jono7: and then the reality hit the west... he wasn't making enough money to support a family and she had to get a job.
i would of LOVED to of been a stay at home mom, looking after husband, children and home. but as i mentioned, many men to not have the income to provide for their families without their wife getting a job. so how do your beliefs apply to the reality of contemporary living when both parents need to work? how does she stay at home being the perfect partner and doing all the things required if she is also required to be at work?
you have not addressed this in your many diatribes.
LeeCharming: He should be asking your name first and stop looking at your body...but some men can't The dating process is a bit like tom and jerry...jerry plays hard to get and tom keeps on trying to catch jerry...most of the time he won't catch her, but that's cause he don't know the rules anymore and the goal posts keep on moving
I am not into the dating game, but I happen to speak to men now and then... The ideal is if she has a good job and is a good housewife too... And that's easily achieved, a question of organisation and priorities...
Working around what's best is a matter of understanding between the two in a couple... We can share responsibility and tasks...and that's what's important... It's not a competition, it's a team work... I can give more of this but you can give more of that...balance...
pKrema: Working around what's best is a matter of understanding between the two in a couple... We can share responsibility and tasks...and that's what's important... It's not a competition, it's a team work... I can give more of this but you can give more of that...balance...
commitment to the us. spend time looking after each other and being grateful, instead of flaw finding.
PeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands6,334 posts
A friend of mine had a girlfriend, 15 years younger, not working, and while he was working hard all day, all she did was sleep, watch television and talk with friends on the phone. Often when he got home in the evening she wasn't dressed yet, and the breakfastdishes were still on the table. Then he told her to start working, for he was getting sick and tired of her, so she found a job and within a week, she moved in with a colleague of her, after using my friend for about 5 years.
So I do care what a woman does for a living, even if it is only cleaning the house, shopping, cooking, that's fine with me. But I don't want a Peggy Bundy...
michael63ca: Is it important for a woman what a man does for a living?
i like to know what a man does for a living. i also like to know what a woman does for a living. not because i care about income. i have my own income. what one does for a living is information that informs me about the person.
jono7: i like to know what a man does for a living. i also like to know what a woman does for a living. not because i care about income. i have my own income. what one does for a living is information that informs me about the person.
Hey, Jono...
I’ve sometimes wondered what the disinterested think about my being retired and not wanting to work again.
Most female employment exists on a spectrum between nursing and Harvey Weinsteins PA. Is there any merit in what she does? Did she make it on merit? Does her employment make the world a worse place? These are the questions that count.
I’ve sometimes wondered what the disinterested think about my being retired and not wanting to work again.
hiya galrads
if i meet someone, male or female, who is retired....i ask them what they did before retirement. it's pretty common in Canada to ask what a person works at. It's not about income. It's about learning about the other person. if the person is retired, i ask them what they do now...what are they interested in?
i have not found anyone in real life who takes offense to this question. sometimes folks will state a job they hate..even that is information because then i would ask what would they like to be doing.
personally... i think it's great you are retired and don't want to work again. what a great time of life for you to have the freedom to choose what you do. today is the day that counts.
if i meet someone, male or female, who is retired....i ask them what they did before retirement. it's pretty common in Canada to ask what a person works at. It's not about income. It's about learning about the other person. if the person is retired, i ask them what they do now...what are they interested in?
i have not found anyone in real life who takes offense to this question. sometimes folks will state a job they hate..even that is information because then i would ask what would they like to be doing.
personally... i think it's great you are retired and don't want to work again. what a great time of life for you to have the freedom to choose what you do. today is the day that counts.
I hope you don't mind me jumping in here.
I think this illustrates the dufference in outlook even between sister countries. I lived in Canada and was amazed by the lack of class distinction, not lke the UK where the distinction is very marked
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What would a man say to his wife? relax, cause I'm going to bring home the bacon honey...we will be together forever and our family dreams will come true..we are a team and a solid family unit...we can take on the world together...