Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country? (157)

Feb 20, 2019 6:37 PM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
MiguelUknow
MiguelUknowMiguelUknowSantiago de Queretaro, Queretaro Mexico14 Threads 638 Posts
I'm not sure if it's good, bad or neither, but I think it's time to stop making criminals out of people who smoke. I don't want to see kids have access, but if adults with aches and pains think it helps it's okay with me. BTW I was in Homer, Alaska last year and went to my first legal pot shop out curiosity, all I saw was old 60ish hippies buying some for themselves.
Feb 20, 2019 7:11 PM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
MiguelUknow: I'm not sure if it's good, bad or neither, but I think it's time to stop making criminals out of people who smoke. I don't want to see kids have access, but if adults with aches and pains think it helps it's okay with me. BTW I was in Homer, Alaska last year and went to my first legal pot shop out curiosity, all I saw was old 60ish hippies buying some for themselves.
The stores are more of a novelty, to real potheads.

Pot hasn't cost this much in Hawaii, since Green Harvest was flying over our houses everyday in helicopters.

I get most of my pot for free. I refuse to sell any of it; but share it freely...

Since I've lived like that for most of my life; I have friend's who give it to me for free too.

A few friend's have turned me on to what the stores sell... If I buy it on the streets, I get the same quality for a fraction of the price. I know where to buy it; but I rarely need to.

There's more than one economy based on marijuana.

Money and marijuana don't go together in my circle of friends. In the last month I was given a quarter pound of bud shake and an ounce of buds from one friend, a quarter ounce of bud from another friend, a half ounce of bud from another friend, and an ounce from two other friends.

That's just my personal stash, for smoking with friends; and I pass it on by the handful... I'd never sell any of it. It's against my religion.

That's also the way I share food, clothes, and my house.

And that's the way my friends and neighbors share with me.

Jesus said, ...Freely ye have received, freely give.
Matthew 10:8


And Paul said-

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1 Corinthians 2:12
Feb 20, 2019 7:23 PM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
MiguelUknow
MiguelUknowMiguelUknowSantiago de Queretaro, Queretaro Mexico14 Threads 638 Posts
mykingdomforanam: The stores are more of a novelty, to real potheads.

Pot hasn't cost this much in Hawaii, since Green Harvest was flying over our houses everyday in helicopters.

I get most of my pot for free. I refuse to sell any of it; but share it freely...

Since I've lived like that for most of my life; I have friend's who give it to me for free too.

A few friend's have turned me on to what the stores sell... If I buy it on the streets, I get the same quality for a fraction of the price. I know where to buy it; but I rarely need to.

There's more than one economy based on marijuana.

Money and marijuana don't go together in my circle of friends. In the last month I was given a quarter pound of bud shake and an ounce of buds from one friend, a quarter ounce of bud from another friend, a half ounce of bud from another friend, and an ounce from two other friends.

That's just my personal stash, for smoking with friends; and I pass it on by the handful... I'd never sell any of it. It's against my religion.

That's also the way I share food, clothes, and my house.

And that's the way my friends and neighbors share with me.

Jesus said, ...Freely ye have received, freely give.
Matthew 10:8


And Paul said-

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1 Corinthians 2:12
You're an interesting guy to me myking. At first I wasn't really fond of you cause you can seem a bit harsh at times , but I have grown to really appreciate who you are. If I ever make it back to HI I'm sure I'd enjoy meeting you.beer
Feb 20, 2019 7:27 PM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
Inthewoods
InthewoodsInthewoodsColorado Springs, Colorado USA9,896 Posts
HealthyLiving: It's legal in your state now.


How, high are you?
... 7200 ft. The air is rare... cool


... laugh
Feb 20, 2019 11:25 PM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
MiguelUknow: You're an interesting guy to me myking. At first I wasn't really fond of you cause you can seem a bit harsh at times , but I have grown to really appreciate who you are. If I ever make it back to HI I'm sure I'd enjoy meeting you.
I'm aware that I can be harsh; but nobody can accuse me of flattering them. I'm harshest on myself, by far.

If God will, and you come to Hilo, I'll show you some aloha.
Feb 21, 2019 12:24 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
For pensioners and the disabled maybe. Weed for those who can't really do much in this world, we've been very lucky we don't have to kill them we can afford them to do nothing.
Feb 21, 2019 12:44 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
ChesneyChrist: For pensioners and the disabled maybe. Weed for those who can't really do much in this world, we've been very lucky we don't have to kill them we can afford them to do nothing.
Some people were born to be chattel...

You're one of them.
Feb 21, 2019 12:46 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: For pensioners and the disabled maybe. Weed for those who can't really do much in this world, we've been very lucky we don't have to kill them we can afford them to do nothing.
Added bonus is they have no street cred. If weed was popular amongst the least influential it might actually drive teenagers away from cannabis which is the ideal to keep weed away from the developing.
Feb 21, 2019 3:28 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
Yes, I do.

NZ has recently(Dec 2018) and immediately decriminalized marijuana use for the terminally ill.

We'll have to wait another 12 months for it be lawful for long term chronic pain sufferers, which will be beneficial for my daughter.

I don't use it myself, but see the benefits of medicinal marijuana use, as opposed to the side effects of cocktails of prescriptions, for pain relief.

We're heading in the right direction.

Finally.
Feb 21, 2019 3:48 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria6 Threads 4,707 Posts
The "funny" bit here is that the use of heroin and synthetic opioids is increasing sharply according to UNODC, Unated nation office on drugs and crime....
It's cheap and available...and cannabis is legal, therefore no fun in it...anymore...
Feb 21, 2019 9:03 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
Butin
ButinButinIngatestone, Essex, England UK17 Threads 1,900 Posts
.........all. Drugs. Should be free. At any age........how can. An. 8. Year old......buy drugs.......when. He only. Gets 8 dollors a week. Pocket....money...???????it's not. Fair. On him.....,professor professor professor .........it. May. Work out. That gun. You.......gave him..as. Protection .......could. Backfire.......by. ?pointing. It at you for more pocket money....jmoprofessor professor rolling on the floor laughing u
Feb 21, 2019 9:14 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
EXRED
EXREDEXREDNorthumberland, England UK6 Threads 1,659 Posts
Only on prescription for certain medical conditions.thumbs up
Feb 21, 2019 10:11 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
LeeCharming: It has healing elements in the plant and many people do smoke it to easy the pain of arthritis...cocaine and heroine is a different story...cause they are highly addictive drugs, have no positive elements in those drugs and many have died from taking those drugs
it's legal now in Canada.

i think it would behoove some folks to read up on information about medicinal cannabis, to inform themselves about the difference between indica and sativa, as well as the benefits of CBDs which is a safe non addictive substance (Cannabidiol).

dancing cool
Feb 21, 2019 10:42 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
jono7: it's legal now in Canada.

i think it would behoove some folks to read up on information about medicinal cannabis, to inform themselves about the difference between indica and sativa, as well as the benefits of CBDs which is a safe non addictive substance (Cannabidiol).
I really don't understand why so many people think medicine is supposed to taste like castor oil...


"CBD, or cannabidiol, is one of the most famous compounds found in cannabis. This particular cannabinoid has a range of therapeutic applications. Let's take a closer look at what science has found that CBD does to the human brain.

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Cannabidiol, often abbreviated as CBD, is probably the most famous chemical compound in the cannabis plant other than THC. Whereas THC is psychoactive and produces an intoxicating high, CBD does not. However, CBD does regulate the effects of THC and other cannabinoids. The dynamic relationship between cannabinoids makes a case for combining them. Despite this, CBD still has a significant impact without the presence of THC. As CBD is not psychoactive, the effects are not as overt as with THC. To understand how cannabinoids have any impact, we must look at how the brain processes them.

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To say the science of the human brain is complicated is putting it mildly. The scientific community understands more about the most mind-blowing and complicated astrophysics than they do about how the human brain works. There is a growing body of research on how cannabinoids interact with the brain. Breakthroughs were made in the 1960s by a team of Israeli scientists led by Dr. Raphael Mechoulam. They were able to identify the chemical structures of CBD and THC. Since then, the endocannabinoid system has been discovered in the human body—the system these cannabinoids interact with. There is remarkable serendipity in humans (and other animals) evolving a biological system directly responsive to cannabis.

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The 5-HT1A receptor is involved in serotonin neurotransmission. Serotonin regulates mood and this particular receptor may be linked to the mediation of anxiety and depression. CBD is thought to have anxiolytic properties which reduce anxiety. There may even be a compounding effect whereby CBD boosts the body's own naturally-produced cannabinoids, known as endocannabinoids.

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Non-cannabinoid chemicals are also impacted by CBD. There are signs CBD disrupts opioid receptors. This makes cannabis a promising treatment for opioid addiction by altering the brain's reward mechanism. Dopamine, the chemical by which we feel a sense of reward, also interacts with CBD. Anandamide is another chemical discovered by Dr. Raphael Mechoulam. He named it after the Sanskrit word for bliss as he observed its impact on human joy. CBD however, seems to inhibit anandamide reuptake and breakdown, which increases endocannabinoid levels. CBD is also believed to stimulate the growth of neurons in the hippocampus. Enlarging the hippocampus, memory and anxiety management are improved.

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Feb 21, 2019 10:56 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
If God didn't want us to consume cannabis...

He wouldn't have created, Cannabinoid Receptors, in our bodies:

Cannabinoid receptors: where they are and what they do.
Review article
Mackie K. J Neuroendocrinol. 2008.

The endocannabinoid system consists of the endogenous cannabinoids (endocannabinoids), cannabinoid receptors and the enzymes that synthesise and degrade endocannabinoids.

Many of the effects of cannabinoids and endocannabinoids are mediated by two G protein-coupled receptors (GPCRs), CB(1) and CB(2), although additional receptors may be involved. CB(1) receptors are present in very high levels in several brain regions and in lower amounts in a more widespread fashion.

These receptors mediate many of the psychoactive effects of cannabinoids. CB(2) receptors have a more restricted distribution, being found in a number of immune cells and in a few neurones. Both CB(1) and CB(2) couple primarily to inhibitory G proteins and are subject to the same pharmacological influences as other GPCRs. Thus, partial agonism, functional selectivity and inverse agonism all play important roles in determining the cellular response to specific cannabinoid receptor ligands.
PMID 18426493 [Indexed for MEDLINE]

Cannabinoid receptors and their ligands.

Review Article
Pertwee RG, et al. Prostaglandins Leukot Essent Fatty Acids. 2002.
Cannabinoid receptor ligands: clinical and neuropharmacological considerations, relevant to future drug discovery and development.

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Pertwee RG, et al. Expert Opin Investig Drugs. 2000.
Cannabinoid receptor ligands as potential anticancer agents--high hopes for new therapies?

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Oesch S, et al. J Pharm Pharmacol. 2009.
Cannabinoid receptors and pain.
Review article
Pertwee RG, et al. Prog Neurobiol. 2001.
CB(1) and CB(2) receptor-mediated signalling: a focus on endocannabinoids.

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McAllister SD, et al. Prostaglandins Leukot Essent Fatty Acids. 2002.

Feb 21, 2019 10:56 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
mykingdomforanam: I really don't understand why so many people think medicine is supposed to taste like castor oil...


"CBD, or cannabidiol, is one of the most famous compounds found in cannabis. This particular cannabinoid has a range of therapeutic applications. Let's take a closer look at what science has found that CBD does to the human brain.
you're singing to the choir posting to me....laugh

but i am glad you posted the information for others to read as it saves them googling their own research.

when one is afraid of something they don't know or understand...it can be helpful to learn about it rather than rely on outdated and incorrect information.

i do think folks should be purchasing from an approved dispensary. i used to get really upset with some of my students that were buying street drugs. i am quite sure vancouver is not the only place where street pot has been laced with something...and can be very dangerous. as well...and i am not trying to stir the pot here because i do support legal cannabis...it's not common, but some folks can be allergic to cannabis.
Feb 21, 2019 11:00 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.
1 Timothy 4:1-6
Feb 21, 2019 11:10 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
jono7: you're singing to the choir posting to me....

but i am glad you posted the information for others to read as it saves them googling their own research.

when one is afraid of something they don't know or understand...it can be helpful to learn about it rather than rely on outdated and incorrect information.

i do think folks should be purchasing from an approved dispensary. i used to get really upset with some of my students that were buying street drugs. i am quite sure vancouver is not the only place where street pot has been laced with something...and can be very dangerous. as well...and i am not trying to stir the pot here because i do support legal cannabis...it's not common, but some folks can be allergic to cannabis.
I posted that to support what you said...

That's why I quoted you, when I posted it.



I've been smoking pot since I was 11; and the only time I ever bought weed on the street that had pcp or anything added to it...

It wasn't a secret.

I had to pay extra for it.

That stuff costs a lot more than marijuana!
Feb 21, 2019 11:20 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
mykingdomforanam: As someone who has a prescription for marijuana, I'm pointing out...

Marijuana is a plant that never killed anybody; but legally prescribed drugs kill more people than drunk drivers and wars .
I gave details of the amount of cannabis needed to provide a lethal dose in #14
Feb 21, 2019 11:21 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
MiguelUknow: You're an interesting guy to me myking. At first I wasn't really fond of you cause you can seem a bit harsh at times , but I have grown to really appreciate who you are. If I ever make it back to HI I'm sure I'd enjoy meeting you.
Seeking a handful Miguel?smoking

HLlaugh
Feb 21, 2019 11:24 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
bodleing2: I gave details of the amount of cannabis needed to provide a lethal dose in #14
...and you reminded us that the word, "Gullible, isn't in the dictionary.
Feb 21, 2019 11:28 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
mykingdomforanam: ...and you reminded us that the word, "Gullible, isn't in the dictionary.
And some wanted to prove to me it is.

laugh
Feb 21, 2019 11:30 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;

To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;

To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?
Job 38:25-27
Feb 21, 2019 11:35 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
bodleing2: And some wanted to prove to me it is.
No doubt.

I knew someone would.
Feb 21, 2019 11:57 AM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
mykingdomforanam: No doubt.

I knew someone would.
Do you think my info on a lethal dose of cannabis is accurate?

grin
Feb 21, 2019 12:28 PM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
bodleing2: Do you think my info on a lethal dose of cannabis is accurate?
That's the only lethal dose of marijuana I ever heard of.
Feb 21, 2019 1:06 PM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
MiguelUknow
MiguelUknowMiguelUknowSantiago de Queretaro, Queretaro Mexico14 Threads 638 Posts
HealthyLiving: Seeking a handful Miguel?

HL
Maybe. If my arthritis is acting up. wink

6. Arthritis
‘Arthritis’ is an umbrella term that refers to the inflammation of a joint. There are more than 100 different types of arthritis, with some of the more common types including osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, and psoriatic arthritis. Symptoms typically include swelling and redness around the joint, reduced range of motion, stiffness, weakness and severe, ongoing pain. It’s the latter symptom that cannabis is most effective at treating. In one study into the efficacy of cannabis as a form of pain relief for rheumatoid arthritis, researchers noted that “a significant analgesic effect was observed and disease activity was significantly suppressed”.
Feb 21, 2019 1:11 PM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
mykingdomforanam: I posted that to support what you said...

That's why I quoted you, when I posted it.



I've been smoking pot since I was 11; and the only time I ever bought weed on the street that had pcp or anything added to it...

It wasn't a secret.

I had to pay extra for it.

That stuff costs a lot more than marijuana!
i thought that was why you posted to me. thumbs up grin

as for cannabis being laced...the times, they are a changin'....
in vancouver street cannabis can be laced with many things, and often is.
it doesn't cost extra, ...infact you will not be told. rather it will be hyped as just really great cannabis with the intent you will continue to buy it from them because it is 'better'.
Feb 21, 2019 1:23 PM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
MiguelUknow
MiguelUknowMiguelUknowSantiago de Queretaro, Queretaro Mexico14 Threads 638 Posts
jono7: i thought that was why you posted to me.

as for cannabis being laced...the times, they are a changin'....
in vancouver street cannabis can be laced with many things, and often is.
it doesn't cost extra, ...infact you will not be told. rather it will be hyped as just really great cannabis with the intent you will continue to buy it from them because it is 'better'.
Cannabis samples from shops and dispensaries in various states that have legalized the sale of recreational marijuana invariably reveal products contaminated with insecticides, fungicides, rodenticides and other compounds used to eliminate or prevent infestations. Pesticides have also been found in medical marijuana.
Feb 21, 2019 1:46 PM CST Do you think – cannabis should be made legal in your country?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
MiguelUknow: Cannabis samples from shops and dispensaries in various states that have legalized the sale of recreational marijuana invariably reveal products contaminated with insecticides, fungicides, rodenticides and other compounds used to eliminate or prevent infestations. Pesticides have also been found in medical marijuana.
unless you know the grower personally, and know it's safe and organic...there certainly can still be risk. having said that, i still think dispensaries are safer than buying it from someone on the street that you don't know.

but i hear ya.
it's like grocery shopping....my first choice is organic and grown locally.

i don't want to put you on the spot....
but if you know a friend of a friend of a friend.... wink ....that grows it... laugh

i think that's the safest route to take.

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