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Oct 31, 2019 3:24 PM CSTwill trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?

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given that Donald trump has campaigned for long time now via word and deed to isolate the uk from eu as a trading block, with intent of promising trade deals and then when uk are down ,out, n desperate for trade hit the new minnows with his America first policy and feed them the crumbs of any deals. I wonder will the uk fall for it.

he has currently interfered in the uk upcoming general elections, in an attempt to further his cause. he has bj wrapped around his little finger and like his pet puppet.but will he conquer the public. or will they see through his game and it all come crumbling down for him

Appearing on LBC Radio with host Nigel Farage, the leader of the Brexit Party, the US president also heaped praise on Prime Minister Boris Johnson as a "fantastic guy" and "terrific". Mr Trump said: "I have great relationships with many of the leaders, including Boris who's a fantastic man - I think he's the exact right guy for the times . And Mr Trump speculated the two "brilliant" men would "end up doing something" as he phoned in to Mr Farage's radio show.

"I know that you and him will end up doing something that could be terrific - if you and he get together it's unstoppable force," he said

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Mr Corbyn responded to the US president on Twitter, posting: "Donald Trump is trying to interfere in Britain's election to get his friend Boris Johnson elected."

"It was Trump who said in June the NHS is 'on the table'," he added "And he knows if Labour wins US corporations won't get their hands on it. Our NHS is not for sale."

"As the saying goes, you can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep," he added

"Trump is a bully, a misogynist and a racist. Yet the Conservatives have fawned to secure a post-Brexit trade deal with him
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trump said...
"He [Mr Johnson] is looking very much at the United States because we could do much more on trade," Mr Trump said

hahaha trump would do anything in the name of trade deals...laugh (unfortunately.)

he will seek to cut the uk off from the e.u and have them come begging for trade on their knees.laugh



if he gets away with it,

he might become conservatives media campaign host….tis all above law I suppose.confused












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Oct 31, 2019 3:45 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
The brixit vote came before Trumps election , it is what helped Trump to power , it encouraged US voters , it gave them hope .
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Oct 31, 2019 4:10 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
HarbalEsquire
HarbalEsquireHarbalEsquireDoncaster, South Yorkshire, England UK14 Threads 1 Polls 601 Posts
epirb: The brixit vote came before Trumps election , it is what helped Trump to power
Well then on behalf of Britain, I just want to say, sorry America. sad flower
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Oct 31, 2019 4:13 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
UK hasn't been happy with EU for a long time,so,suddenly the blame falls on Trump?
Orange Man bad!laugh
Conspiracy of the Century?grin
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Oct 31, 2019 4:20 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
The U.S. economy is absolutely booming under Trump

Any country not wanting to do trade would be just cutting off their nose to spite their face

It's not an EU vs US thing - UK can(and will) trade with both. Once UK extricates itself from the shackles the EU currently has it in, it will be free to trade with whomever, and in whatever matter, it chooses. It will have the power to negotiate and get better deals.
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Oct 31, 2019 4:24 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
Why can't we just make Britain great again?... dunno

... laugh


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Oct 31, 2019 4:41 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
HarbalEsquire
HarbalEsquireHarbalEsquireDoncaster, South Yorkshire, England UK14 Threads 1 Polls 601 Posts
chancer_returns:
Any country not wanting to do trade would be just cutting off their nose to spite their face
Any country letting itself become dependant on coming to a favourable trading agreement with Trump's America will have their nose cut off for them.
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Oct 31, 2019 5:35 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
Conrad73: UK hasn't been happy with EU for a long time,so,suddenly the blame falls on Trump?
Orange Man bad!
Conspiracy of the Century?
laugh It's kind of flattering though.. that anyone would think, that one man is that powerful
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Oct 31, 2019 5:36 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
Inthewoods: Why can't we just make Britain great again?...

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Well, first we would have to care confused And that is not going to happen.
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Oct 31, 2019 5:41 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
American born UK Prime Minister is doing quite well Donald must be very pleasedwave
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Oct 31, 2019 5:42 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
HarbalEsquire: Any country letting itself become dependant on coming to a favourable trading agreement with Trump's America will have their nose cut off for them.
Stay poor then, see if I care.
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Oct 31, 2019 5:44 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
Inthewoods: Why can't we just make Britain great again?...

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Because .....


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Oct 31, 2019 6:15 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Brexit came before president Trump and Corbyn should move to Scotland another time and place where there are no immigrants and prescriptions are free. A whole land provided for by other people’s money, Scotland is still in the old phase of low-productive White where insurance and a public sector financed by others keeps back that pressing sense of competition. This isn’t really about Trump, not yet at least.
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Oct 31, 2019 7:07 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
epirb: The brixit vote came before Trumps election , it is what helped Trump to power , it encouraged US voters , it gave them hope .
regardless of his good fortune , re misguided voters, there will be no thanks for it or to fate .

it just business . ..he can see he is onto a good thing if Brexit happens. its in America interest to isolate a country, more power over them re trade n more. he will do everything he can to make it happen.

he will try to conquer uk from afar . ..over the airwaves. laugh









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Oct 31, 2019 7:20 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
AS my good friend Boris says humbuglaugh laugh laugh laugh
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Oct 31, 2019 7:43 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
Conrad73: UK hasn't been happy with EU for a long time,so,suddenly the blame falls on Trump?
Orange Man bad!
Conspiracy of the Century?
nobody is blaming trump. laugh

the fact that some in uk has not been happy with eu for a long time , is irrelevant . and the fact that uk referendum happened , and voted Brexit is equally irrelevant , in the sense that it had nothing to do with trump.

what is relevant is that an 0PPORTUNITY has presented itself, since he came into office...without any previous imput he has landed on his feet here.

he certainly sees the opportunities for America now that uk has voted brexit ..uk voted.on what I would call ….NATIONAL ISOLATION DAY.. it makes America stronger and uk weaker. obviously trump is going push for it.

if Brexit alas does happen......it wont be long before trump will be telling the nation of the GREAT trade deals he has made , and how AMERICA is better off etc...and he is the man made it happen after conservatives couldn't do it by themselves. laugh

he might even claim something like this...….I made happen in one phone call what conservatives couldn't do in over 3 years..laugh and the uk people listen to me , because they know I am right.laugh








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Oct 31, 2019 8:51 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
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Probably be better than jumping into bed with America
In the first quarter of 2019, the United States total public- and private-sector debt amounted to nearly $70 trillion and Total U.S national debt was nearly $22 trillion as of October 2019.
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Oct 31, 2019 9:55 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
chancer_returns: The U.S. economy is absolutely booming under Trump

Any country not wanting to do trade would be just cutting off their nose to spite their face

It's not an EU vs US thing - UK can(and will) trade with both. Once UK extricates itself from the shackles the EU currently has it in, it will be free to trade with whomever, and in whatever matter, it chooses. It will have the power to negotiate and get better deals.
regards us economy. trump would do anything for money. cut funding to aid packages , the poor, sick, hungry ,,least well off in society will be his victims. not just in u.s. but other countries . that's his policy for saving money. there is no goodness in it, totally immoral. many people have suffered as result of trade war he has started with china. I suspect any boost to us economy is as result of what he has inherited from work of others before him that have come to fruition.. without his contribution u.s. would be even better off. the result of his current policies wont be seen for some time to come. all this division n conflict on stuff from environment to security to economy not good for America. he is at odds with all as result of personality n narcissism . it can only lead to destruction in the end.

he has uk firmly in his sights now. he can see the dollar signs there, …. more calls on the way.

but , its not just his doing, brexiteers will help .

brexiteers , think the countries around the world are queing up to give it great trade deals just because it leaves the e.u.laugh as if world trade org rules will be wonderfull .laugh

but,.. other nations will just see it as isolated and vulnerable and be waiting in the wings like vultures waiting for a wounded animal to break off from the herd and stray . they will be looking to pick its bones.
.......after all its other nations who will be looking to benefit from such tragedies. it will be very difficult for uk to get any reasonable trade deals, …...times have changed.

uk has no new technologies that the world market especially seeks. its not like olden times .n the industrial revolution days.

hopeing brexit wont happen.

buf if it does , uk will be just an isolated country in the atlantic , and will spend many difficult years to come.... not only trying to get reasonable trade deals with other countries...…..but also …...with the e.u. under diff trading rules. the paperwork alone never mind negotiations , would take an age.

it would be an age of struggle and most likely set the country back for many years to come.

















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Oct 31, 2019 10:28 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
epirb: The brixit vote came before Trumps election , it is what helped Trump to power , it encouraged US voters , it gave them hope .
brexit gave trump new opportunity to set his agenda. he can see the vulnerable position u.k. are in, and the potential for u.s. to gain more power and control over it, and manipulate its economy.

seems to me from that opportunity onwards the plan was to divide n conquer. all trump has to do is jump aboard , the brexiteer ship now n again and help steer uk away from eu, and if successful reap the rewards. .

Brexit hope , is a potential gift to trump , and he wants it yesterday laugh











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Oct 31, 2019 10:59 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
EU growth rate about .4 % US growth rate about 3.9 . EU currently trying to increase growth but can't seem to understand that its about job destroying legislation , Trump did and while the world was looking for russians cut a lot of employment destroying rules . Hook the UK to the EU if you like . Trump has nearly 10 times the growth of the EU . EU is stagnant , was a time any thing less than 2 % growth was considered none at all , seems to me it could be a figure for the EU to aspire to . EU is a sinking ship . It was said the EU needed to be a ballance to the US , looks abit lopsided from here .
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Nov 1, 2019 9:29 AM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
epirb: EU growth rate about .4 % US growth rate about 3.9 . EU currently trying to increase growth but can't seem to understand that its about job destroying legislation , Trump did and while the world was looking for russians cut a lot of employment destroying rules . Hook the UK to the EU if you like . Trump has nearly 10 times the growth of the EU . EU is stagnant , was a time any thing less than 2 % growth was considered none at all , seems to me it could be a figure for the EU to aspire to . EU is a sinking ship . It was said the EU needed to be a ballance to the US , looks abit lopsided from here .
any growth in u.s will never fund uk growth. any few dollars trump holds back from the poorest of the poor, and add to the coffers n twist it into alleged econ growth , will be kept. in addition trump will seek to increase growth, via trade deals and reap in more. somebody has to pay for u.s growth and guess who that will be. step forward uk and pay us your share n forget about e.u. laugh uk depending on any u.s growth to support its own growth is a non starter. Brexit is a disaster in waiting for uk, and will be happy days for bush. in addition to other nations . so far it hasn't been good for uk or anybody else since uk threw the spanner in the works,, ,nations possibly pouring millions down the tubes in preparation for a no deal situation that may never happen. and if it does all that unnecessary layout anyway. the costs of picking up the pieces after uk .

UK economy since the Brexit vote: slower GDP growth, lower productivity, and a weaker pound

CEPEvidence of the UK’s economic performance since the EU Referendum is clear: GDP growth has slowed down, productivity has suffered, the pound has depreciated and purchasing power has gone down, and investments have declined. In this blog, Josh De Lyon and Swati Dhingra (LSE Centre for Economic Performance) argue that the impact of the Brexit vote on the health of the economy can now be evaluated with greater accuracy than previously. UK economy since the Brexit vote: slower GDP growth, lower productivity, and a weaker pound. . Most studies predicted that Brexit would have a negative impact on UK GDP over the long term. Before and after the vote . Now, however, some post-referendum data are available, which can be used to evaluate the health of the economy since the Brexit referendum.Firstly, the UK’s GDP growth has slowed down.Relative to G7 countries,, the UK has slipped from having the highest growth rate in the G7 before the vote, to the lowest now The sterling has depreciated and increased costs. The single biggest economic shock immediately after the referendum has been an unprecedented drop in the value of the pound. On referendum night, the pound fell from a high of $1.50 to $1.33. This is the single biggest drop in the daily exchange rate since the 1970s among the four major currencies of the world. the uk has yet to recover , and the uk hasn't even left the e.u. yet. the mere mentioning of leaving has brought this destruction . Purchasing power has gone down. On average, real wages have been flat since the referendum. both inward and outward foreign direct investment (FDI) have dropped .Overall, the real economy shows signs of productivity and real wage stagnation, which has taken the UK much lower than other high-income countries since the Brexit referendum.

Brexit is bad news all round. but not for trump ….he will cash in at uk expense.just wait for the post Brexit deals if it happens......America first. :

if trump influence on uk elections helps divide n conquer uk , he will have a true victory on more power n control over uk n trade. he can declare it to the media and it wont even be fake news. laugh


however, he may find its far easier to hoodwink the tories as opposed to the people. but then again the brexiteers hoodwinked the people already and he has them on his side. time will tell.










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Nov 1, 2019 11:19 AM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
epirb: EU growth rate about .4 % US growth rate about 3.9 . EU currently trying to increase growth but can't seem to understand that its about job destroying legislation , Trump did and while the world was looking for russians cut a lot of employment destroying rules . Hook the UK to the EU if you like . Trump has nearly 10 times the growth of the EU . EU is stagnant , was a time any thing less than 2 % growth was considered none at all , seems to me it could be a figure for the EU to aspire to . EU is a sinking ship . It was said the EU needed to be a ballance to the US , looks abit lopsided from here .
2% growth might be appropriate considering that the average person is old and knackered. If the EU is overunionised the Americans have no quality control, what passes as merit in their activity is concerning. Can it even afford it? I mean America is in more debt than the EU with its basket cases of Italy and Greece.
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Nov 1, 2019 11:33 AM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
What a load of humbugrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 1, 2019 12:51 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
lookinforhappy: any growth in u.s will never fund uk growth. any few dollars trump holds back from the poorest of the poor, and add to the coffers n twist it into alleged econ growth , will be kept. in addition trump will seek to increase growth, via trade deals and reap in more. somebody has to pay for u.s growth and guess who that will be. step forward uk and pay us your share n forget about e.u. uk depending on any u.s growth to support its own growth is a non starter. Brexit is a disaster in waiting for uk, and will be happy days for bush. in addition to other nations . so far it hasn't been good for uk or anybody else since uk threw the spanner in the works,, ,nations possibly pouring millions down the tubes in preparation for a no deal situation that may never happen. and if it does all that unnecessary layout anyway. the costs of picking up the pieces after uk .

UK economy since the Brexit vote: slower GDP growth, lower productivity, and a weaker pound

CEPEvidence of the UK’s economic performance since the EU Referendum is clear: GDP growth has slowed down, productivity has suffered, the pound has depreciated and purchasing power has gone down, and investments have declined. In this blog, Josh De Lyon and Swati Dhingra (LSE Centre for Economic Performance) argue that the impact of the Brexit vote on the health of the economy can now be evaluated with greater accuracy than previously. UK economy since the Brexit vote: slower GDP growth, lower productivity, and a weaker pound. . Most studies predicted that Brexit would have a negative impact on UK GDP over the long term. Before and after the vote . Now, however, some post-referendum data are available, which can be used to evaluate the health of the economy since the Brexit referendum.Firstly, the UK’s GDP growth has slowed down.Relative to G7 countries,, the UK has slipped from having the highest growth rate in the G7 before the vote, to the lowest now The sterling has depreciated and increased costs. The single biggest economic shock immediately after the referendum has been an unprecedented drop in the value of the pound. On referendum night, the pound fell from a high of $1.50 to $1.33. This is the single biggest drop in the daily exchange rate since the 1970s among the four major currencies of the world. the uk has yet to recover , and the uk hasn't even left the e.u. yet. the mere mentioning of leaving has brought this destruction . Purchasing power has gone down. On average, real wages have been flat since the referendum. both inward and outward foreign direct investment (FDI) have dropped .Overall, the real economy shows signs of productivity and real wage stagnation, which has taken the UK much lower than other high-income countries since the Brexit referendum.

Brexit is bad news all round. but not for trump ….he will cash in at uk expense.just wait for the post Brexit deals if it happens......America first. :

if trump influence on uk elections helps divide n conquer uk , he will have a true victory on more power n control over uk n trade. he can declare it to the media and it wont even be fake news.

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Current US growth is consumer driven , not export . Fed rate drop yesterday was to encourage export growth . Rising US middle class wage growth and tax cuts are playing their part and with many millions now working rather than getting welfare they will be paying tax , its a double wammy to control debt .



As for the UK , what changed in a fundamental way to drop the Pound on Brexit night , nothing , whats happened with the communist push to over turn the vote since certainly has . US is not responsible for UK growth , UK export should be , and what does the UK export now , sweet eff all
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Nov 1, 2019 12:54 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
tomcatty: What a load of humbug
that the average person is old and knackered direct reference to you old boy
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Nov 1, 2019 1:01 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
EXRED
EXREDEXREDNorthumberland, England UK6 Threads 1,659 Posts
You just never know Boris may have something up his sleeve as he will get through I am sure. He always wanted no deal it was parliament it would not let that through. Could be as EU says no more extensions so

laugh laugh do or die Boris will have us out on the 31st with no deal, he will rightly blame all the undemocratic blockers for that.

Trump I like him but he complained Russians were interfering with his campaign and see what he is doing. He will get the head banger sign from us brits for that one rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 1, 2019 1:09 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
Obama said Britain would be bottom of the list for trade deals if it left the EU , Trump said Britain would be top of the list if it left the EU,,, what's going on ??
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Nov 1, 2019 1:12 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
EXRED
EXREDEXREDNorthumberland, England UK6 Threads 1,659 Posts
michaelright: Obama said Britain would be bottom of the list for trade deals if it left the EU , Trump said Britain would be top of the list if it left the EU,,, what's going on ??
all just mouths at the moment roll eyes
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Nov 1, 2019 1:30 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
epirb: that the average person is old and knackered direct reference to you old boy
Oh struck a nerve, we stuffed your lanb down your throat and we;ll do it again./ As well as stuffing you at rugbyrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 1, 2019 1:51 PM CST will trumps divide and conquer approach with uk succeed.?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
tomcatty: Oh struck a nerve, we stuffed your lanb down your throat and we;ll do it again./ As well as stuffing you at rugby
yeah , worked real well for you , being told what to do by Berlin makes the UK no more than a vassel state .
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